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Cperations. CARD DIVISION Executive and Legislative

Reorganization Subconnittee.
REALINING REGIONAL BOUNDARIES OF

CERTAIN FEDERAL AGENCIES

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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

MAY 8, 1969

Printed for the use of the Committee on Government Operations

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1969

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COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

WILLIAM L. DAWSON, Illinois Chairman CHET HOLIFIELD, California

FLORENCE P. DWYER, New Jersey JACK BROOKS, Texas

OGDEN R. REID, New York L. H. FOUNTAIN, North Carolina

FRANK HORTON, New York JOHN A. BLATNIK, Minnesota

DONALD RUMSFELD, Illinois ROBERT E. JONES, Alabama

JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois EDWARD A. GARMATZ, Maryland

JOHN W. WYDLER, New York JOHN E. MOSS, California

CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida

GUY VANDER JAGT, Michigan HENRY S. REUSS, Wisconsin

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana JOHN S. MONAGAN, Connecticut

WILLIAM O. COWGER, Kentucky TORBERT H. MACDONALD, Massachusetts GILBERT GUDE, Maryland WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania PAUL N. MCCLOSKEY, JR., California CORNELIUS E. GALLAGHER, New Jersey PAUL FINDLEY, Illinois WILLIAM J. RANDALL, Missouri

JOHN H. BUCHANAN, JR., Alabama BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York LOWELL P. WEICKER, JR., Connecticut JIM WRIGHT, Texas FERNAND J. ST GERMAIN, Rhode Island JOHN C. CULVER, Iowa FLOYD V. HICKS, Washington

CHRISTINE RAY Davis, Staj Director

JAMES A, LANIGAN, General Counsel
MILES Q. ROMNEY, A88ociate General Counsel
LAWRENCE P. REDMOND, Professional Staff Member

J. P. CARLSON, Minority Counsel
WILLIAM H. COPENHAVER, Minority Professional Stai

EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE REORGANIZATION SUBCOMMITTEE

JOHN A, BLATNIK, Minnesota, Chairman ROBERT E. JONES, Alabama

JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois
BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio
CHET HOLIFIELD, California

PAUL FINDLEY, Illinois
ELMER W. HENDERSON, Counsel
VERONICA B. JOHNSON, Olerk
MARYANN CONWAY, Olerk

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CONTENTS

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Statement of-

Bolling, Hon. Richard, a Representative in Congress from the Sta.

of Missouri..

Dillingham, Jay L., president, Kansas City Stockyards Co.
Hughes, Hon. Phillip S., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget;

accompanied by Hon. Dwight A. Ink, Assistant Director for Executive

Management-

Hull, Hon. W. R., Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Missouri..

Marsh, Hon. John O., Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Virginia --

Randall, Hon. William J., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Missouri..

Winn, Hon. Larry, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Kansas

Letters, statements, etc., submitted for the record by-

Dillingham, Jay L., president, Kansas City Stockyards Co.: State-

ment..

Hughes, Hon. Phillip S., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget:

Memorandum from the White House dated March 27, 1969, re

Federal field delegations--
Jones, Hon. Walter B., a Representative in Congress from the State

of North Carolina: Statement.
Letters to Hon. John A. Blatnik, a Representative in Congress from

the State of Minnesota, and chairman, Executive and Legislative
Reorganization Subcommittee, from-
Perkins, Hon. Carl D., a Representative in Congress from the

State of Kentucky, dated May 8, 1969, re proposed transfer of

regional offices, with attachments---
Senators Thomas F. Eagleton and Stuart Symington, dated

May, 1969, re proposed executive reorganization of the bound-
aries and location of certain regional offices, together with

sundry accompanying material..

Staggers, Hon. Harley O., a Representative in Congress from the

State of West Virginia, dated May 9, 1969, re proposed transfer

of regional offices

Marsh, Hon. John O., Jr., a Representative in Congress from the

State of Virginia:

Series of questions propounded re merits of proposed transfer of

regional offices

Statement..

Mizell, Hon. Wilmer D., a Representative in Congress from the State

of North Carolina: Statement.

Spong, Hon. William B., Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of Vir-

ginia: Statement.

Stubblefield, Hon. Frank A., a Representative in Congress from the

State of Kentucky: Statement with attachments..

Winn, Hon. Larry, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Kansas:

Congressman Larry Winn reorganization plan, map-

Text of Senate Concurrent Resolution No. 36 of the Kansas

Legislature re transferring of certain regional offices of numerous

Federal agencies.--

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REALINING REGIONAL BOUNDARIES OF CERTAIN

FEDERAL AGENCIES

THURSDAY, MAY 8, 1969
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE

REORGANIZATION SUBCOMMITTEE
OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, at 10 a.m., in room 2247, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Benjamin S. Rosenthal, acting chairman, presiding

Present: Representatives John A. Blatnik (chairman of the subcommittee), Chet Holifield, Robert E. Jones, Benjamin S. Rosenthal, John N. Erlenborn, Clarence J. Brown, and Paul Findley.

Also present: Elmer W. Henderson, subcommittee counsel; James A. Lanigan, general counsel, and Lawrence P. Redmond, professional staff member, Committee on Government Operations; J. P. Carlson, minority counsel; and William H. Copenhaver, minority professional staff.

Mr. ROSENTHAL. The Subcommittee on Executive and Legislative Reorganization will come to order.

The hearing today has been called to consider the restructuring of Government service systems as contained in the statement of President Nixon on March 27. Among other things, the President realines the regional boundaries of five Federal departments and agencies so that all regional offices will be located in the same cities. This is not a matter for which the President has asked congressional approval, but it is the responsibility of the Subcommittee on Executive and Legislative Reorganization to review all major reorganizations to determine whether or not they enhance the quality of services to be rendered by the Federal Establishment and produce efficiency and economy. We have asked officials of the Bureau of the Budget to provide us with a complete explanation and justification for these changes. We also will hear several Members of Congress who wish to comment on them and how their districts may be directly affected.

The five agencies involved are the Departments of Labor; Health, Education, and Welfare; and Housing and Urban Development; the Office of Economic Opportunity; and the Small Business Administration. These agencies all have regional boundaries that were created without reference to the regional boundaries of the others. President Nixon's aim appears to be to rationalize the way service delivery systems are organized and to develop, presumably, greater coordination of the programs the agencies are carrying out.

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