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COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES. MA
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-NINTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

PURSUANT TO

H.R. 13715

A BILL TO AUTHORIZE CERTAIN CONSTRUCTION AT
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS, AND FOR
OTHER PURPOSES

MAY 10, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18, 23, 24, 25, 31, JUNE 1, AND 16, 1966

[Pages of all documents printed in behalf of the activities of the House
Committee on Armed Services are numbered cumulatively to
permit a comprehensive index at the end of the Con-

gress.

Page numbers lower than those in

this document refer to other

subjects.]

50-066

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1966

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

EIGHTY-NINTH CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION

L. MENDEL RIVERS, South Carolina, Chairman

PHILIP J. PHILBIN, Massachusetts F. EDWARD HÉBERT, Louisiana MELVIN PRICE, Illinois

O. C. FISHER, Texas

PORTER HARDY, JR., Virginia
CHARLES E. BENNETT, Florida
JAMES A. BYRNE, Pennsylvania
SAMUEL S. STRATTON, New York
OTIS G. PIKE, New York
RICHARD H. ICHORD, Missouri
LUCIEN N. NEDZI, Michigan
ALTON LENNON, North Carolina
WILLIAM J. RANDALL, Missouri
G. ELLIOTT HAGAN, Georgia
CHARLES H. WILSON, California
ROBERT L. LEGGETT, California
DONALD J. IRWIN, Connecticut
JED JOHNSON, JR., Oklahoma
FRANK E. EVANS, Colorado
RODNEY M. LOVE, Ohio

WILLIAM H. BATES, Massachusetts
LESLIE C. ARENDS, Illinois
ALVIN E. O'KONSKI, Wisconsin
WILLIAM G. BRAY, Indiana

BOB WILSON, California

CHARLES S. GUBSER, California

CHARLES E. CHAMBERLAIN, Michigan
ALEXANDER PIRNIE, New York
DURWARD G. HALL, Missouri
DONALD D. CLANCY, Ohio

ROBERT T. STAFFORD, Vermont

RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, Pennsylvania

FLOYD V. HICKS, Washington

HERVEY G. MACHEN, Maryland

SPEEDY O. LONG, Louisiana

E. S. JOHNNY WALKER, New Mexico

SANTIAGO POLANCO-ABREU, Puerto Rico

JOHN R. BLANDFORD, Chief Counsel

WILLIAM H. Cook, Counsel

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HEARINGS BEFORE THE FULL COMMITTEE ON H.R. 13715, TO AUTHORIZE CERTAIN CONSTRUCTION AT MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, Washington, D.C., Tuesday, May 10, 1966.

The committee met at 10:17 a.m., Hon. L. Mendel Rivers (chairman) presiding.

The CHAIRMAN. Let the committee come to order.

Gentlemen, I apologize for being late; I had to ride the railroad. We don't have any airline schedule that is convenient for getting here early in the morning.

You have noticed in the paper, Mr. Secretary, where I put a release that we are going to look into the shortage of commercial transportation for these GI's who are compelled to spend endless hours in the airline ticket waiting rooms throughout America.

Mr. VANCE. Yes, Mr. Chairman. I saw that in the paper this morning.

The CHAIRMAN. I know whereof I speak. You, too, have some experience with this, haven't you, Mr. Secretary?

Mr. VANCE. I have had some experience; yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. I notice one representative of the airline, Mr. Tipton, has said they have given special rates.

They as likely told you about options. They can't ride on special rates. They have to ride on airplanes. I suggest that they accompany these special rates with some additional sections of these planes for which the special rates are available. You can't ride on special rates. Now, I am going to have Mr. Earl Morgan assigned as counsel for this subcommittee. Mr. Ichord will be chairman. I have asked Mr. Lennon to serve on it, and Mr. Chamberlain.

All I want is the airlines to make an effort to put additional sections on the flights which they have scheduled; that is all. A lot of these GI's have come to me and said, "This is my last pass before I am going overseas."

And I think it is unfortunate, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Ignatius. Nobody, but nobody can tell me that a conscientious effort has been made to provide these young men with transportation.

I will give you a concrete example anytime you want it.

Fort Jackson has 30,000-plus troops. The complex at Charleston has a good 50,000-plus troops. From Charleston to Atlanta, Ga., the only line that they have serving that is Delta. I talked to Mr. Woolman, and he said he is going to try to put additional flights on. I hope he does.

We are not trying to convict anybody before we have an inquiry. I think it is unfortunate that these obsolescent aircraft-and 90 per

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