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The next one is the Signal Overseas items, and here is where there has been a major change, as we outlined in the letter to Senator Russell on the 30th.

We cut out all of our requests for station 17, and I am talking from page 401 now, sir. We cut out all of our request for stations 17, 19, and 20, and modified downward our request on station 14.

Senator STENNIS. All right. What amount do you have on that now?

General SEEMAN. The total in our authorization requests for all of these Signal Overseas installations is $2,476,000

Senator STENNIS. From $3,282 million to what now?
General SEEMAN. $806,000.
General COOK. A reduction of $2,476,000.

General SEEMAN. A reduction of $2.4 million; the net requirements for station 14 now are $490,000.

Senator STENNIS. That is what the book shows?

General SEEMAN. That is right, sir. We have inserted new pages in the book.

Senator STENNIS. You left out 17, 19, 20. What about 23 ?

General SEEMAN. No. Location 23 is another part of the world, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right.
Senator CASE. Seventeen, are you asking for 17!
General SEEMAN. No new authorization, Senator Case, for 17.

Senator CASE. To what extent will this 17 be used by Japanese personnel ?

General Cook. None, sir; 17, none.
Senator CASE. You mean you are not asking for 17 ?
General Cook. Yes, sir, not asking for 17.
Senator CASE. But do Japanese personnel use 17?
General Cook. No, sir.

Senator Case. Mr. Chairman, I have a growing feeling that where these facilities are provided overseas in Japan, in Germany, and in other countries where their local economy is booming, that they should provide the funds for the facilities which their troops use, and also for those which we use which will eventually be turned over to them.

If we are building utilities at any place or barracks, and we will eventually be turning them over for the convenience and use of the overseas of the indigenous personnel, I think the capital costs should be supplied by those countries.

General SEEMAN. Mr. Chairman, I would respectfully request that we take this up in executive session because this is a tie-in for the security services as well as the command network in the Japanese

This is solely for our own intelligence and command network and we, perhaps, should go into it in some detail.

Senator STENNIS. If we can go through this, maybe we can have an executive session on it briefly.

Next item.




General SEEMAN. The next station is location 23 on page 425 where there is a headquarters, an administrative building, and a power supply at their receiver site of two items for a total estimated cost of $316,000.

Senator STENNIS. That was what now?
General SEEMAN. Page 425.
Senator STENNIS. Do you want this carried as a classified item?

General SEEMAN. No, sir. They are in this unclassified book. If we require any more detail we would go into it. Senator STENNIS. Well, it is marked “classified" up

here. All right. Next item?

General SEEMAN. That completes the Signal Corps Overseas items, sir.



General SEEMAN. The next one is surface-to-air missile facilities on page 430, and a communications structure.

I might make a general statement with regard to the surface-to-air missile activity. There are no new deployment of missiles or weapons here. All of the facilities are for implementing or improving the present deployment, and we are requesting a total authorization of $46,216,000.

As you know, due to the state of the art of radar and the continued service of the weapon you realize improvements. The battle between the offense and defense is going on continually with regard to discrimination of your radars, and this is the largest single item in this

There are 17 project sheets supporting the surface-to-air missile program authorization, Mr. Chairman, but only four of these can be discussed in open session. With your permission, I will address myself to these unclassified projects at this time and cover the remainder when the committee goes into executive session.

The first of these projects is for construction of a post exchange and snack bar in the Chicago-Gary defense area at an estimated cost of $168,000. This project is required to provide facilities for operation of exchange retail activities, a snack bar and soda fountain, service outlets and administrative space for exchange activities to accommodate approximately 550 Army and Air Force personnel and their dependents at NORAD Control Center-Site C-80; in addition, approximately 700 men and their dependents, at seven additional outÎying NIKE sites, will use these facilities. This facility is considered essential as one of the “fringe” benefits furnished service personnel in lieu of pay consistent with civilian industry.

The second project is for construction of a ready building at EISworth Air Force Base, S. Dak., for a cost of $39,000. The existing building has become unusable and a source of danger to life and property, due to extremely unsuitable soil conditions has deteriorated to such a point that it has been condemned by post engineer and a temporary structure provided. The proposed ready building will be located on approximately the same site as the old, immediately adjacent to the control equipment and within the control area for a NIKE HERCULES battery. Because the siting of the battery is critical with respect of the defended area and the remainder of the installation is in place and operating, no excess or partially utilized facility is appropriate for the proposed ready building. If this item is not provided the operational ability of the unit will be greatly hampered in that the control area operating personnel will have to be housed in the administrative area which is one-fourth to 1 mile apart and transported by bus during the time on alert. This is a heavy snow area and winter operations would be hampered considerably. This is a HERCULES site and such will not be abandoned. Impossible to travel between control and launches area during adverse (drifted snow) weather conditions. The distance between barracks and ready buildings is 3.5 miles. Criteria is 5 minutes walking time from barracks to place of duty.

The third project is for provision of latrine facilities in the Washington-Baltimore Defense Årea at an estimated cost of $71,000. Necessary for the health and safety of enlisted men. Due to the location of the present latrines, in a separate building, personnel now have to walk several dozen yards from the barracks to the latrine in all kinds of weather. This situation can be detrimental to the health of those individuals who have just taken showers and must go out into inclement weather to return to the barracks. Since the mean winter temperature in this area is approximately 37° Fahrenheit, any trip to the latrine during winter months is likely to expose personnel to severe cold.

Senator STENNIS. Well, General, you take $168,000 now for the Chicago-Gary Defense Area, I have not been out there in that area for a long time, but 20 years ago it was a solid city, as I remember. Who wants to spend $168,000 for an exchange sales store and snack bar there?

General SEEMAN. This is an area out in the country. It is 20 miles away from where they have their command headquarters, and it is just a small exchange sales store and snack bar vhere the men on duty and off duty will be able to come in.

They have no large Army post, and the nearest community is several miles away, and some of them are on duty 24 hours a day. They are on shifts all the time.

Senator Case. How many men will it serve?

Lieutenant Colonel LEE. There are about 550 men and several men at scattered NIKE sites.

Senator Case. Yes.

Senator STENNIS. This was the NIKE-HERCULES; that is the one you mentioned this morning. These facilities are out where, for this $13 million ?

Lieutenant Colonel LEE. These are all existing sites. These are improvements to existing sites.

Senator STENNIS. I see, additions. Yes; that is NIKE-HERCULES.

General SEEMAN. The chairman has reference to page 437.
Senator STENNIS. What page are they on?

General SEEMAN. They are at page 437 but it is a blank page. It says details are in the classified book. It says page 10 in the classified book, but both this page and the succeeding page, the improvement kits are strictly with regard to the electronics and the radar operations.

Senator STENNIS. All right. You do not want to take up any more of that then in open session; is that correct?

General SEEMAN. There are some other items, for instance on page 440.

General SEEMAN. There is here an alert building at Fort Shafter, at an estimated cost of $176,000.

Senator STENNIS. That is a small item.
General SEEMAN. Most of it is classified, Mr. Chairman.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Senator Case, it is now 9 minutes until 5—-off the record, Mr. Reporter. (Discussion off the record.)

Senator STENNIS. I think you could prepare a special lesson on the executive session and, perhaps, we have had a full enough day now.

Is there anything else you want to say about any of the points that we have brought up or have not brought up, I mean, in open session?

General SEEMAN. I have nothing that I can think of.

Senator STENNIS. Perhaps some of your staff members have something. Would you call on anyone else who is with you to say anything they wish to say?

General SEEMAN. No, sir; we do not have anything further.

Colonel EPPERSON. Sir, site 23, the site 23 item, merely covered the barracks buildings. I see no reason for it to be delayed for the executive session unless you have some questions.

Senator STENNIS. Where is that?

Colonel EPPERSON. That is on page 383. You indicated that would be covered in executive session.

General SEEMAN. I indicated that because there are two types of operations at that station, and I did not want to get into the second

This is both an Army Security Agency which has a responsibility for the housekeeping at the station, and the specialized facilities under the signal are budgeted under the overseas signal,



General SEEMAN. Mr. Chairman, I would now like to make a comment concerning the emergency or unspecified authorization which the Army is seeking in section 103 of the bill before you.

Section 103 of the Military Construction Authorization Act of fiscal year 1959 authorized the Secretary of the Army to proceed with construction made necessary by changes in Army missions, new weapons developments, new and unforeseen research and development requirements, or improved production schedules, if the Secretary of Defense determines that deferral of such construction for inclusion in the next Military Construction Authorization Act would be inconsistent with interests of national security. A limitation of a total of $17,500,000 was put on this authorization. The fiscal year 1960 Military Construction Authorization Act contained an identically worded authorization, except that the limitation on total amount was $10 million. It should be noted, however, that this authorization does not act to increase the MCA funds made available by Congress. Any

funds expended under this authority must be obtained by the deferral of authorized projects totaling an equivalent amount.

The Department of the Army has not exercised the authority granted in either of the two acts though there have been a number of instances where the use of such authorization was requested by agencies within the Army. To date it has been possible to meet the requirements that have arisen through other means.

The fact that the Army has not utilized this authority to date, speaks well for the well-planned, hard-core programs it has presented to the Congress in recent years. However, continued availability of this authority for emergency unforeseen requirements of the type indicated in section 103, is considered both desirable and necessary, particularly during this era of rapidly developing major military systems.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Mr. Clerk, Mr. Nease, do you have something further now?

Mr. NEASE. You are going to continue with classified in the morning?

Senator STENNIS. I think, gentlemen, maybe you would want to make special preparation on that, pull the ends together.

Let us take the Navy in the morning.

Do you have some deficiency authorizations you wish to discuss, I call them supplemental authorizations?

General SEEMAN. As I mentioned in my very brief remarks, there were $8 million extended over the past 3 years

Senator STENNIS. Pardon me, is there anything else you have besides the supplemental or deficiency and the classified?

General SEEMAN. No, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Suppose we take up this supplemental, these items

All right, gentlemen, let us proceed, please, General.


if you will.


General SEEMAN. Sir, we have a deficiency authorization book be

fore you.

Senator STENNIS. Yes.

General SEEMAN. Which shows the total items requested as $7,898,000.

Senator STENNIS. That is the total?

General SEEMAN. That is it, and it lists on that same sheet, Mr. Chairman, the various public laws starting with 534 of the 83d Congress, and the item for Fort Carson, Colo.

SENATOR STENNIS. When will that run out, Public Law 534 of the 83d Congress? That will run out when, the 86th Congress is already here.

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir; it is running out. This is a peculiar one here, as indicated on pages 1 and 2. The real requirement for this additional authorization of $257,000 is that there was a contractor's claim at that station which resulted in a decision by the Board of Contract Appeals that a settlement be negotiated with the contractor for additional expense incurred.

Senator STENNIS. And it went over?
General SEEMAN. And it ran over, this item of $257,000.

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