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A. That would seem more logical. The Washington-New YorkMiami, I don't recall.

Q. Now, the Washington-to-Miami trip, that was for you and your wife, was it not?

A. That is right.
Q. Your wife was traveling under the name of Swann?
A. Yes; that is right.

Q. And the tickets to Washington, New York, Miami, were purchased for Mr. Powell, Miss Huff, and Miss Givens ?

A. I guess so.
Q. Well, it is not “I guess so.
A. I don't know.

Mr. Hays. Let's put it this way, Mr. Stone: That is what the record shows and you have no other recollection? The WITNESS. That is right.

By Mr. O'CONNOR: Q. On that trip, Mr. Powell traveled under the name of 0. Clark? A. I don't know.

Q. One was 0. Clark and one C. Lewis. You are familiar with them?

A. Yes.

Q. The tickets Miami to—Washington to Miami and return to Washington were in the name of Swann and Stone; is that correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Why did you purchase the ticket for your wife in the name of Swann?

A. The chairman said that he wanted me to go down as his guest and he would pay for the trip and he reimbursed the committee with a personal check for the money expended.

Q. But you did use the committee credit card for the acquisition of the tickets?

A. Yes.
Q. In what other instances have you done likewise ?

A. That is the only time that I can recall. By "personally” do you mean for some member of my family or something like that?

Q. Yes.
A. That is the only time.
Q. Have you ever taken your wife on another trip with you?
A. No. I can't recall that I did.
Q. Did you ever take her to New York with you?
A. No.
Q. Chicago?
A. No.
Q. Miami?
A. No. No. can't recall any and I am almost sure I didn't.
Q. I would like to show you these tickets
A. I took her with me when I drove to New York.
Q. Did you?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. When was that?
A. I have forgotten, but we drove to New York in the spring-
Q. You claimed no reimbursement?
A. No; just the mileage; that is all.

Q. I am only interested in the instances in which you purchased a ticket with your travel card for her use.

A. Yes.
Q. In how many instances ?
A. That is all I know.

Q. I show you this Xerox copy of tickets purchased August 5 and ask you to examine it, please, sir.

The price shown there is $112.50; is that correct?
A. That is right.

Q. Do they represent the passage purchased for you and your wife to Miami and return on August 5 ?

A. Yes.
Mr. O'CONNOR. Would you mark those as "Stone Exhibit 3”?

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(The above-referred to documents were marked "Stone Exhibit 3" and received in evidence.)

By Mr. O'CONNOR: Q. I show you three tickets in the name of C. Lewis and three tickets in the name of 0. Clark purchased the same date with your travel credit card and ask you if those are the tickets which you pur.chased for Miss Huff and Mr. Powell ?

A. I don't know. I just don't remember.
Q. They were purchased on August 5, as you can see the date there.
A. Yes.
Q. Did you purchase any other tickets on August 5 ?

A. I don't recall. I don't know. I don't remember whether I did or not. What tickets I did

Q. You are certain that on August 5–

A. No; I am not certain. If my card was used, I must have purchased them or given somebody else the card to purchase the tickets.

Q. Is there anything else you might need to refresh your recollection?

A. If I see things, they might help me.

Q. What discussions did you have with Mr. Powell and Miss Huff, if any, prior ot your trip to Miami to meet them? Did you arrange to meet them in Miami or something?

A. Yes. Well, now-let's see. Yes I don't know if we went down there or not. We went down after and arranged to meet them—not in Miami. Meet them in Bimini on vacation.

Q. No previous arrangement to meet them in Miami and go to Bimini with them?

A. No.
Q. Where did you stay at Bimini?
A. At Brown's Hotel.
Q. How long were you there?
A. Three or four days.
Q. Do you have the dates?

A. No, I don't. It was about August 9, somewhere around there; around that time.

Q. Can you tell us the purpose of the trip?
A. Part business, part vacation.
Q. What was the business nature?

A. The business was an investigation of the site of picketing, construction trades discrimination in Miami, Fla.

Q. This was an official trip?

A. Yes; and for an investigation of the neighborhood legal services program.

Q. Did you make that investigation in Miami ?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you have a report of that investigation?
A. I have it here. It was filed with the committee.
Q. You did file a report on it?

A. Yes, sir; I have two of them. Here is one on the migrants and the other on the picketing investigation.

Q. Did you claim any per diem in connection with the official travel?

A. I can't remember if I did or not. I don't know if I did on that trip or not. I can't remember.

Q. But your presence in Miami was on official business?

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