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" Homer is the greatest of poets and first of tragedy writers; but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and praises of famous men are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into our State. For if you go beyond this and allow... "
The Dialogues of Plato - Page 447
by Plato - 1871
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The Wesleyan-Methodist Magazine

Arminianism - 1876 - 1204 pages
...must remain firm in our conviction that if you allow the honeyed muse to enter, either in epic or in lyric verse, not law and reason, which by the consent of all is ever deemed the best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State." Homer represents the, to us,...
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The Dialogues of Plato: Tr. Into English, with Analyses and ..., Volume 2

Plato - 1874 - 626 pages
...to acknowledge that Homer is the greatest of poets aud first of tragedy writers ; but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and...are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into pur State. For if you go beyond this and allow the honeyed muse to enter, either in epic or lyric verse,...
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The Republic of Plato

Plato - Political ethics - 1881 - 532 pages
...to acknowledge that Homer is the greatest of poets and first of tragedy writers ; but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent has ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will...
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The Republic of Plato

Plato - Political science - 1888 - 628 pages
...•to acknowledge that Homer is the greatest of poets and first of tragedy writers; but we must. remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and...State. For if you go beyond this and allow the honeyed j.,r« j muse to enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by...
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A Brief History of Greek Philosophy

Benjamin Chapman Burt - Philosophy, Ancient - 1889 - 326 pages
...men, even perfectly, is a monster, "thrice removed from the king and from truth." 2 "We must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods, and...poetry which ought to be admitted into our state." 1 Homer and his followers must therefore be expurgated or else must be driven out. As for rhetoricians...
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The Republic of Plato: An Ideal Commonwealth

Plato - Political science - 1901 - 444 pages
...to acknowledge that Homer is the greatest of poets and first of tragedy writers ; but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will...
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A History of Classical Scholarship ...: From the sixth century B. C. to the ...

John Edwin Sandys - Classical philology - 1903 - 722 pages
...greatest of poets . . , but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and eulogies of famous men are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into our State". Homer's expulsion from Plato's Republic called forth a considerable controversial literature7. Athens,...
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Poetic Justice in the Drama: The History of an Ethical Principle in Literary ...

Michael A. Quinlan - Criticism - 1912 - 258 pages
...requirement he had in mind, he decided to restrict the field of their activity, saying, " we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and...poetry which ought to be admitted into our state."* His hostility towards the poets is essentially based on an ethical ideal, for he says, " what will...
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A Short History of Classical Scholarship from the Sixth Century B.C. to the ...

John Edwin Sandys - Classical philology - 1915 - 484 pages
...greatest of poets..., but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and eulogies of famous men are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into our State ' 4. Homer's expulsion from Plato's Republic called forth a considerable controversial literature....
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A Short History of Classical Scholarship from the Sixth Century B.C. to the ...

John Edwin Sandys - Classical philology - 1915 - 646 pages
...greatest of poets..., but we must remain firm in our conviction that hymns to the gods and eulogies of famous men are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into our State'4. Homer's expulsion from Plato's Republic called forth a considerable controversial literature....
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