the estimated number of those eligible whom you have not been able to take care of? Colonel HARRINGTON. Yes, sir. Mr. JOHNSON. Could you do that by States, Colonel? (The table referred to is as follows:) Number of persons certified and available for employment on Works Progress Administration projects and estimated total number of employable persons eligible for Works Progress Administration employment, by States, last week of February 1939 12,000 37,000 34,000 Remarks 46,000 Certifications limited by inadequate staff. Practically no relief to employables. Certify only on available quota. No relief to employ. ables. Excludes 2,650 nonresidents on partial F. S. A. assistance. 31,000 Certifications limited to inadequate staff. Practically no relief to employables. Unemployment compensation began in January. 55,000 8,000 2,500 Certifications curtailed because of limited Works Progress Administration assignment opportunities. Certifications made only on requisition. Total represents D. P. W. report of general relief cases and others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. 5, 500 Certification is made only on requisition. Total in- No general relief for employables. Total includes cer- Certification on requisition. Limited funds for direct Certifications suspended Feb. 6. Total includes certifications and other cases receiving relief. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed assignments. Limited funds and low standards for direct relief. Total includes certifications, estimate of employable cases receiving relief and others in need. Total includes certifications and employable cases receiving relief. Restricted certification policies. Total includes certification and D. P. W. estimate of employable cases receiving relief. Unemployment compensation began in January. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed assignments. Intake closed in 16 counties. Practically no relief to employables. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed W. P. A. assignments. Practically no general relief to employables. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Certifications made only on requisition. Total includes Limited funds for direct relief particularly outside of 4,000 78,000 26,000 19,000 Number of persons certified and available for employment on Works Progress Administration projects and estimated total number of employable persons eligible for Works Progress Administration employment, by States, last week of February 1939-Continued 55, 000 20,000 19,000 30,000 20,000 7,000 10,000 500 3,600 Certifications made only on requisition. Total in- Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Certifications made only on requisition. Limited funds Limited funds for relief to employables. Total in- Certifications made only on requisition. Total includes Varied adequacy of relief. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. 6,000 Total includes certifications, employable cases receiving relief and estimate of others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. 100,000 1,200 55,000 50,000 Certifications made only on requisition. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed W. P. A. assignments. Practically no relief to employables. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Certification curtailed by W. P. A. assignments. Relief in rural areas handled largely by F. S. A. Unemployment compensation began in January. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed W. P. A. assignments. Limited funds and low standards for direct relief in many localities. Unemployment compensation began in January. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Certification limited by inadequate staff. Practically no relief to employables. Total includes certifications and estimate of others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. 8,000 Limited relief to employables. Total includes certifications, and estimate of others in need. Certify only cases receiving relief. Certifications made only on requisition. Total includes Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Limited funds and low standards of relief. Relief in Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Number of persons certified and available for employment on Works Progress Administration projects and estimated total number of employable persons eligible for Works Progress Administration employment, by States, last week of February 1939-Continued Certifications made only on requisition. Total includes estimate of others in need. Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Certifications limited by inadequate staff and curtailed Certification on requisition in 4 counties and limited in others. Total includes certifications, cases receiving relief and estimate of others in need. Unemployment compensation began in January. 1 Certification on requisition. Figures represent estimated number of employable cases receiving general relief. NEED SURVEY (See p. 2) Mr. O'NEAL. How many questionnaires were sent out and how many were returned signed? Mr. RAUCH. There were 2,931,920 reviewed. Mr. O'NEAL. All of them signed? Mr. RAUCH. Yes, sir. NUMBER ELIGIBLE FOR CERTIFICATION IN NEW YORK CITY Mr. WOODRUM. In connection with the New York City figure of 41.6 percent who have been on the rolls for over 3 years, do you have available the number eligible for certification in New York? Colonel HARRINGTON. Not on the rolls? Mr. WOODRUM. Not on the rolls. Colonel HARRINGTON. Yes, sir. Mr. WOODRUM. Do you have that with you? Colonel HARRINGTON. I do not have it with me. Mr. WOODRUM. Will you put it in the record at this point? Colonel HARRINGTON. Yes, sir. (The estimated number eligible for certification in New York State, including New York City, was 100,000, as shown in the above table.) NUMBER CERTIFIED BUT NOT APPOINTED TO W. P. A. ROLLS Mr. LUDLOW. You gave us a figure of 850,000 persons that were certified and not appointed. That was at the last meeting. Does that figure still obtain or has there been any change? Mr. RAUCH. I think that would be increased a little. Mr. LUDLOW. About how much? Mr. RAUCH. Later reports are not yet complete, but I would say perhaps another 100,000. Mr. LUDLOW. About 950,000 now certified? Mr. RAUCH. Yes; that is my estimate. The reports are not yet in. Mr. LUDLOW. Certified and incapable of appointment? Mr. RAUCH. That is right. ROTATION OF PEOPLE ON W. P. A. The CHAIRMAN. Can you give us an estimate as to what proportion of those that are on the rolls you think would be subject equitably to rotation, and what proportion do you feel are on there for life? Colonel HARRINGTON. If you were going to start a policy of rotation it would obviously start with the persons who have been on the rolls the longest, and that is about one person in 6, about 17 percent. Mr. CANNON. You would not take into consideration relative need? Colonel HARRINGTON. I do not think you can, Mr. Cannon. I do not see how you can; how you could administer that. The CHAIRMAN. You think you have got to take them off arbitrarily? Colonel HARRINGTON. I think you do if you are going to rotate, because in that group of 17 percent that have been in the W. P. A. for 3 years or more there are undoubtedly the neediest cases. PERCENTAGE ON W. P. A. ROLLS FOR 3 YEARS OR MORE Mr. WOODRUM. What is the next highest percentage to New York City with 41 percent of those who have been on the rolls continuously for 3 years? Colonel HARRINGTON. I think West Virginia. Mr. WOODRUM. West Virginia? Colonel HARRINGTON. Yes-no; I did West Virginia an injustice there. West Virginia's percentage is 26, and New York State, outside of New York City, is 27.8 percent. That seems to be the second one, New York State. Mr. WOODRUM. Do you have any particular explanation why there should be that high percentage in New York City? Colonel HARRINGTON. I think it is due to the fact that private employment opportunities are not there for this group of people. Mr. O'NEAL. What would the percentage be in Chicago? Mr. WOODRUM. Would there be any connection between that large number of people who have been able to stay on W. P. A. in New York City and the Workers Alliance's organized efforts to keep their people on the rolls? Colonel HARRINGTON. I think absolutely not. Mr. WOODRUM. You think not? Colonel HARRINGTON. No, sir. Mr. O'NEAL. Can you give us the percentage for Philadelphia and Chicago, so we can make a comparison with New York? Colonel HARRINGTON. I do not have Chicago complete. 146462-39-pt. 1- -2 WORKERS ALLIANCE IN THE W. P. A. Mr. CANNON. The suggestion has been made in the press or elsewhere that the Workers Alliance was a W. P. A. fostered organization; that officials high in the W. P. A. had sponsored it and encouraged it. What is the attitude of the W. P. A. organization toward the Workers Alliance? To what extent have they sympathized with and encouraged the organization, and what advantages has the W. P. A. reaped from the activities of the Workers Alliance? Colonel HARRINGTON. The W. P. A. has not fostered the Workers Alliance. The Workers Alliance represents its members. That membership is a matter of speculation. The Workers' Alliance claims a membership larger than I personally think they have. Mr. CANNON. Is that membership limited to W. P. A. workers? Colonel HARRINGTON. It is limited largely to W. P. A. workers and people who have been employed by W. P. A. Mr. CANNON. The statement was made here that employees of other departments of the Government have furnished members to the Workers' Alliance. Mr. RAUCH. It may be possible. Colonel HARRINGTON. It would be in very small numbers. Mr. RAUCH. It may be possible that people who have been employed in W. P. A. got over into another agency. Mr. CANNON. I interrupted your answer to my question as to what official encouragement and sponsorship was there in W. P. A. of the Workers' Alliance, and that advantages accrue to W. P. A. from the Workers' Alliance. Colonel HARRINGTON. Our regulations definitely state that any organization of employees represents only its membership, and that no organization is considered to be the spokesman for all W. P. A. employees in negotiating with the administration. That has been in our regulations for a relatively long period of time. There is in our files in Washington a letter of very recent date from Mr. David Lasser, the head of the Workers Alliance, in which he states over his signature that the Workers Alliance does not purport to be the bargaining agency for W. P. A. workers with the administration; does not make that claim. PERSONNEL IN W. P. A. DRAWING SALARIES OVER $2,000 Mr. WOODRUM. Colonel, you furnished us in the other hearings a list of your personnel, with the dates that they came into the employ of the W. P. A. and the various salary changes. We requested that that list be revised and broken down by divisions. Have you made any progress on that, Mr. Dort? Mr. DORT. I do not have that available today. Mr. WOODRUM. Is it being prepared? Mr. DORT. You want it by the new divisions? You see, we have reorganized considerably. Mr. WOODRUM. Can you give us a list of new personnel, alphabetically arranged? Mr. GILL. Yes, sir. Mr. WOODRUM. It is very difficult to get an organizational picture otherwise. What we would like to have is a statement broken up in divisions. |