COMMITTEE ON FIRST SESSION ON MATTERS RELATIVE TO THE CONTROL OF FOREST AND BRUSH FIRES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES, CALIF. Printed for the use of the Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS. CLAIR ENGLE, California, Chairman WAYNE N. ASPINALL, Colorado A. L. MILLER, Nebraska LEO W. O'BRIEN, New York JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania WALTER ROGERS, Texas J. ERNEST WHARTON, New York MRS. GRACIE PFOST, Idaho E. Y. BERRY, South Dakota WILLIAM A. DAWSON, Utah CRAIG HOSMER, California JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona GEORGE H. CHRISTOPHER, Missouri J. EDGAR CHENOWETH, Colorado B. F. SISK, California JAMES B. UTT, California STEWART L. UDALL, Arizona KEITH THOMSON, Wyoming CHARLES C. DIGGS, JR., Michigan PHIL WEAVER, Nebraska HAROLD R. COLLIER, Illinois SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE CLAIR ENGLE, California, Chairman JOHN P. SAYLOR, Pennsylvania JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona CONTENTS 71 202 Keith Arnold, Director, California Forest and Range Experiment Page Station, United States Forest Service.----- Mrs. J. B. Atkisson, chairman, conservation of natural resources, Verdugo District, California Federation of Women's Clubs, Pasa- 230 H. H. Biswell, professor, School of Forestry, University of California, Burton W. Bogardus, president, Big Santa Anita Canyon Permittees’ Association.---- Harry W. Brelsford, attorney, Santa Barbara, Calif., accompanied by S. A. Nash-Boulden and Adrian G. Wood.. W. B. Carter, chairman, Watershed Fire Council of Southern Cali- N. L. Clarine, superintendent of communication, Southern California Edison Co., Alhambra, Calif..----- Charles A. Connaughton, regional forester, California region, United States Forest Service, San Francisco, Calif.------ Ralph L. Fenner, Fenner & Day Co., Richmond, Calif.--- Jerry Foote, Los Angeles, Calif., representing the Sierra Club.--- 232 117 Col. H. E. Hedger, Chief engineer, Los Angeles County Flood Control T. William Heidner, chief, city of Pasadena Fire Department, Pasa- 139 248 236 F. R. Jewett, Ventura, Calif., Ventura County's representative on the Watershed-Fire Council of Southern California - Keith E. Klinger, chief engineer, Los Angeles County Fire Depart- ment--------------------------- Sacramento, Calif... M. A. Nicholas, chief engineer, county flood-control district, San Lloyd P. Parratt, president, Pomona Valley Audubon Society ------ Robert T. Radford, chairman, Los Angeles County Watershed Com- mission, Los Angeles, Calif.'--- F. H. Raymond, State forester, California Division of Forestry, Cali- fornia Department of Natural Resources, Sacramento, Calif. - Co., Chester, Plumas County, Calif.. Earl Roberts, cochairman, Citizens Forestry Study Group of San David H. Rogers, Big Bear Timber Co., Redlands, Calif..--- 168 University of California, Berkeley, Calif.--- Armen Sarafian, chairman, Pasadena Area Communitywide Com- W. R. Schofield, secretary-manager, California Forest Protective Association, San Francisco, Calif.-. W. E. Silverwood, director, Redlands-Highland Soil Conservation Elmer L. Smith, assistant chief engineer, Water Department, City of Arthur W. Walker, consultant to State senate interim committee on - - - 185 forest practices, San Bernardino, Calif.------------------------- 178 FOREST FIRE CONTROL IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8, 1957 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Los Angeles, Calif. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:10 a. m., in room 518, the Federal Building, Hon. Clair Engle presiding. The CHAIRMAN. The subcommittee will be in order. This morning we commence the testimony regarding the problem of forest-fire prevention and control. I am glad to note this is Fire Prevention Week here, which seems to make this an appropriate atmosphere for the hearing. The Chair desires to make a short statement. During the past week, this committee has traveled over much of southern California. We have driven through the mountains, and we have flown over the top of them. We have been greatly impressed by the sheer ruggedness of these mountains, and how civilization has crowded right up to the steep brush slopes. I am very much aware of the need for water in this southland and that nearly three-fourths of your present annual water requirements comes from these same mountain watersheds. Flying back from Blythe last Saturday we saw the debris-laden washes of the Santa Ana, San Antonio, and San Gabriel Rivers. We were particularly impressed by the great flood-control dams you people have built to stop the onrush of muck and boulders from enveloping your homes, citrus groves, and vineyards. In my judgment, the fire problem in southern California, based on what we have seen the past few days, is more critical than in any other section of the United States—probably on this earth, for that matter. Too many fires get started, too many get out of control, too many vital watersheds are blackened and ruined. And, unfortunately, lives are sometimes lost in these holocausts. These fires of this year have been about as numerous as in 1956, but thus far they have been smaller and less costly. In 1956 total damages within the limits of the four national forests were estimated at nearly $8 million. Losses in adjoining areas were even more. By midfire season of this year, southern California national forest losses have totaled no more than $150,000. The losses of 1956 averaged in the neighborhood of $100 an acre; during the first half of the 1957 fire season they have been less than $15 an acre. At this point I want to say that the Forest Service has an excellent record in fire-control methods. They have been progressive and even adventurous in the field of new methods. They have a better system |