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Mr. BATES. How much do they have now?

Mr. ICHORD. [Deleted.]

General DICK. [Deleted.]

Mr. BATES. Do you have a full production line developed now?
General DICK. [Deleted.]

Mr. BATES. Do you have just one contractor?

Mr. HAWKINS. Yes, a Raytheon subsidiary is making the thing. [Deleted.]

General CowAN. [Deleted.]

Mr. HAWKINS. The rest of the system is being built by ElectroOptical Systems in Pasadena, Calif.

Mr. PRICE. Do you have equipment for air-to-ground observation [deleted].

General DICK. [Deleted.]

Mr. PRICE. The committee has seen some of the [deleted] work, but of course it was at very close range and under limited conditions. But I just wonder whether it has been developed to the point where it could be used at a greater distance and in an aerial application. General DICK. [Deleted.]

Mr. HAWKINS. This is one of the reasons why we are applying it right away [deleted].

Mr. PRICE. Does anybody have any questions on any of the projects further along?

We have been over all of them. Unless somebody wants to go into them in detail I think we have pretty well covered the line items for the Army. If not, the committee will recess until tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock. Tomorrow the presentation will be from the Air Force. Thank you very much, General, and Secretary Hawkins, and the other gentlemen who accompanied you.

General DICK. Thank you very much.

(Whereupon, at 4:18 p.m., the subcommittee adjourned until Tuesday, February 22, 1966, at 10 a.m.)

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

SUBCOMMITTEE No 3,

Washington, D.C., February 23, 1966.

The subcommittee met at 10:55 a.m., Hon. Melvin Price, chairman of the subcommittee, presiding.

Mr. PRICE. The Committee will come to order.

This is a continuation of the subcommittee's hearings on research and development programs.

This morning we will hear from the Department of the Air Force. The presentation will be presented by Secretary Flax and General Ferguson.

Mr. Secretary, would you want to make any opening statement? Secretary FLAX. I have no prepared statement. General Ferguson will make the presentation. I will assist him in answering questions that the committee may ask.

Mr. PRICE. Thank you.

Will you proceed?

(The biographical sketch of Lt. Gen. James Ferguson, Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development, Headquarters USAF, is as follows:)

of Staff, Research and Development, Headquarters, U.S. Air Force, is as follows:)

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF LT. GEN. JAMES FERGUSON, DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF, RESEARCH And Development, HEADQUARTERS, U.S. AIR FORCE

Lieutenant General James Ferguson is Deputy Chief of Staff for Research and Development at Headquarters USAF in Washington, D.C., a post he has held since December 1, 1961. In this function he monitors the total R&D effort of the Air Force.

General Ferguson was born in Smyrna, Turkey, of British parents on August 15, 1913; attended elementary school in Scotland, and later settled with his family in Whittier, California. He became a naturalized United States citizen there on March 28, 1930; graduated from a local high school in 1931 and graduated from Fullerton Junior College in California in 1934.

Enlisting in the Air Corps on October 30, 1934, General Ferguson began his flying training a year later and completed the training on June 1, 1936. He was commissioned a second lieutenant on June 1, 1937.

Beginning in June 1937, General Ferguson performed flying duties at various locations, until he was assigned, in March 1940 to Hamilton Field, California, as the Commanding Officer of the 79th Pursuit Squadron. From there he moved cross-country, in April 1942, to become Executive Officer of the 20th Pursuit Group at Charlotte, North Carolina.

After a short stay with that group, General Ferguson became Commanding Officer of the 337th Fighter Group, from July 1942 to October 1943.

General Ferguson formed and commanded the 405th Fighter Bomber Group at Waterboro, South Carolina, in October 1943 and took it to Europe four months later. He participated with 405th Group in preinvasion attacks on enemy-held Europe until his assignment as Assistant Chief of Staff with the 19th Tactical Air Command in April 1944. While with that Command, he actively engaged in the Normandy invasion and campaigns leading to the German surrender.

Returning to the United States in December 1945, he later joined the faculty of the Air University, to become an instructor in the tactical air section of the Air Command and Staff School, Maxwell Field, Alabama, remaining there until November 1947.

General Ferguson then joined a U.S. Air Force advisory group in Ankara, Turkey, and became Chief of that group before departing for the Far East in June 1950.

At that time he became Assistant to the Vice Commander and later Assistant Deputy for Operations for the U.S. Far East Air Forces, a position he held until June 1951. From then until February 1952, he was Vice Commander of the Fifth Air Force in Korea.

Back in the United States again, General Ferguson served as Deputy Commanding General of the Ninth Air Force of the Tactical Air Command at Pope Air Force Base, North Carolina, and later at Shaw Air Force Base, South Carolina, departing there for Washington, D.C.

At that time he began a series of assignments which have kept him in the vicinity of Washington for more than 10 years. First, he became Deputy and later Director of Requirements in the office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Development, Headquarters USAF. Then he was named Vice Commander of the Air Research and Development Command, headquarters at nearby Andrews Air Force Base, Maryland.

It was from that post that General Ferguson came to his present position of Deputy Chief of Staff for Research and Development at Headquarters USAF, in December 1961.

His military decorations include the Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster, the Legion of Merit with 2 oak leaf clusters, the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star with one oak leaf cluster and Air Medal with one oak leaf cluster. Other decorations bestowed by foreign governments include the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Croix de Guerre with palm (France), Croix de Guerre (Luxembourg), and the Military Merit Ulchi Medal with gold star (Korea).

General FERGUSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee.

I have submitted for the record a complete statement. At the request of counsel I am going to read selected portions of it that will run about an hour.

Mr. PRICE. Without objection the complete statement will be printed in the record.

General FERGUSON. All right, sir.

(General Ferguson's unclassified statement has been substituted for the classified version and is as follows:)

STATEMENT OF LT. GEN. JAMES FERGUSON, DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, HEADQUARTERS, U.S. AIR FORCE

Chairman Price and members of the subcommittee, I welcome this opportunity to appear before you again, Chairman Price, and testify on the Air Force research, development, test, and evaluation program. I have noted the keen interest in research and development on the part of the Congress, and I am sure this interest has been most beneficial in the pursuit of programs essential for our national security. This year I am particularly pleased to be able to report on a number of programs of great interest to you. Although the diversity of these programs is no broader than in previous years, I have included more of them in my statement to portray the entire Air Force R.D.T. & E. picture.

CYCLICAL R. & D.

But before I describe some of these programs, I would like to take a little time to expand on a particular aspect of research and development-one that is of great importance to us and one that is having an impact on our activities in southeast Asia. That is, the cyclical nature of research and development in an environment of changing policy and limited resources.

Last year I used this chart before the Armed Services Committee to depict the Air Force R. & D. program over the past 20 years and on into the next 10. The purpose of the chart is to show, in a general way, the relations between threat, strategy, weapons systems, and national security on the one hand-and research and development on the other. The primary point of the chart is that R. & D. emphasis is directed by the requirements of national policy.

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