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Although the building is structurally sound, considerable areas of the exterior walls, roofing, gutters, and adjoining paved surfaces need repairs.

In summary, Mr. Chairman, the old portions of Bancroft Hall, which is a representative institution of education of the U.S. Government, is deplorably in the need of major overhaul.

Senator STENNIS. Well, this didn't happen in just a day, Admiral.
Admiral CHEW. No, sir.
Senator STENNIS. Have you asked for this before, or some of it?
Admiral Chew. Not a project of this magnitude, sir.

It is only made possible, as you probably know, because the dormitories have been used far above their designed capacity.

Consequently—and this is one of the reasons for the advanced state of deterioration at the present time rooms that were designed for two, have three and four in them.

Showers that were designed for the use of one or two men have six and eight men using them, and only by the completion of the two additional wings will we be able to do a major renovation project.

In other words, because we have the 2 additional wings of 1,100 capacity, we can double up the people in those wings and then do 2 of the 6 remaining wings at a time, and that is the reason for the incrementation of the project, 2 wings each year for 3 years, by doubling up in the other wings.

Then, at the completion of the renovation, all wings will be used to their designed capacity.

As I say, at present they are overcrowded, which, of course, has been a contributory factor to the advanced state of deterioration. I might add, in clarification, that some of the equipment is so old that you cannot even replace it. You have to manufacture a part. The radiators are of archaic design; the elevators are of a design where spare parts are not even available.

Senator STENNIS. Well, the only thing in my mind, Admiral, about this is just how austere you are going to make it; or another way to say it, how plush are you going to make it?

Admiral Chew. I might say for that amount of money there is no intention of making it plush, sir. That is to make

Senator STENNIS. All right. How much is your total amount involved for Bancroft Hall?

Admiral CHEW. The total last figure
Admiral PELTIER. $17,740,000.

Senator STENNIS. How many men will that $17 million take care of?

Admiral Chew. Well, this would be for the total designed capacity of 3,600, sir.

Senator STENNIS. I thought your new wing was going to take care of some of that.

Admiral Chew. The new wings take care of 1,100, sir; but that will be the total designed capacity.

Senator STENNIS. So the part you are going to rehabilitate will be to take care of 2,500 ?

Admiral CHEW. 2,500, sir.

Senator STENNIS. I am proud that you are going to redo the situation there.

How much will that be per man, $17 million and 2,500 men!
Admiral CHEW. It is about $7,000 per man.
Senator STENNIS. $7,000 per man.
Admiral Chew. Yes, sir; $7,000.

Senator STENNIS. Well, would this cost you more than to build a new one?

Admiral CHEW. No, sir.

Senator STENNIS. You don't have any more space there to build a new one, as I recall.

Admiral Wilson. The original architecture, the outside shell of the building, would be completely preserved. This is interior work.

Admiral PELTIER. It also includes a considerable amount of work in the galley and messhall, which feeds 3,500 people.

Senator STENNIS. All right. I think that the only question here is the unit cost.

How many men are you going to have to the room in this new structure?

Admiral CHEW. Generally speaking, Mr. Chairman, they are designed—let

me go back and explain it. Senator STENNIS. Yes.

Admiral CHEW. In the older sections of Bancroft Hall in the two central wings where the most extensive renovation will have to take place, the rooms are of a unique design; some are larger, some have as many as six people in them now. I would say that those rooms will eventually have three.

The wings that were designed and built in World War I, about 1918, were all designed for two people in a room. They now have three and four. They will go back to two.

The two wings that were built 20 years ago for World War II are essentially designed the same way, with two men to a room. They will go back to the two men per room. They now have three or

Senator STENNIS. As I understand it, you have two new wings in the process of being constructed?

Admiral Chew. Yes, sir.
Senator STENNIS. And they will have two men to the room?

Admiral Chew. I think those rooms are designed primarily for two-man rooms, so essentially of the six wings that are now constructed, four of them are designed for two-man rooms, the older parts are designed for multiple use, and the new wings will be designed for two-man rooms, so six of the eight wings will be designed for two-man rooms.

Senator STENNIS. Well, you are going to have I have been in some more modern dormitories that have a closter of rooms, a living room, a central room or something.

Admiral Chew. There are no facilities, no plans, for such a design, sir. They are functional rooms for a military organization.

We will make every attempt to make them more livable than they are now.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Unless you have something further, what is your next item ?


NAVY SUPPLY CORPS SCHOOL, ATHENS, GA. Admiral Chew. The second project in this group consists of 2 line items in the amount of $193,000 at the Naval Supply Corps School, Athens, Ga. The mission of this school is to train naval officers in all aspects of disbursing and supply.

The first line item is for construction of a small dispensary at the estimated cost of $133,000. This facility is needed to provide proper medical care for close to 630 military personnel, including 500 students, assigned to the school, plus approximately 1,100 of their dependents and a small number of retired personnel. There is a temporary dispensary at the school, but it is located on the first floor of the bachelor officers' quarters. The space and layout of this dispensary are wholly inadequate for the purpose, and the only access to the upper two floors of the BOQ is through the dispensary. These inadequacies prevent the provision of proper medical care; perpetuate the hazard of cross infection, interference with the proper control and administration of the dispensary and BOQ; and utilize space urgently needed by the BOQ.

The second line item is for acquisition of land at the estimated cost of $60,000. The present site of the Navy school, approximately 40 acres in area, was purchased from the University of Georgia in 1953. The additional land required for school purposes, consists of 18 acres adjacent to the present site. It is also owned by the university. All usable areas of the present site are allocated to various uses under the master plan of the station. No space is available for such current requirements as athletic fields for the intramural sports program and for construction of family housing for the teaching staff and station personnel. Local concerns have expressed interest in acquiring this site for commercial or industrial uses which could well be detrimental to the Navy school's purposes. Officials of the university have acknowledged their appreciation of this situation and, have informally expressed their willingness for the Navy to acquire this land.

Senator STENNIS. All right; that is a small item.
Next item.


NECK, VA. Admiral Chew. Page 48 is the Fleet Air Defense Training Center, Dam Neck, Va.

This is a single unclassified line item for this center for the construction of barracks at an estimated cost of $669,000.

We have two of these training centers, Mr. Chairman. This is the east coast one. The other one is in San Diego.

Senator STENNIS. What do you mean by "air defense training center”? What is that?

Admiral Chew. I think it can best be explained by explaining the mission of the center, which is to provide operational training in all aspects of naval air defense, except in guided missiles and associated control equipment, but including coordinated task group air defense at both ship and staff level and guided missile tactics as a part thereof; and to provide support for the naval guided missiles schools; and for other related functions. That is the mission of this Fleet Air Defense Training Center.

The expanding training requirements in guided missiles, the POLARIS program and the new naval tactical data system, have resulted in a considerable increase in the enlisted personnel loading.

These facilities are for housing this increased training load, sir.

We have a requirement for 2,480 spaces, and these barracks will leave us with a deficiency of 1,600 spaces.

Senator STENNIS. How many men do you have in training there, students—882, I believe? You are going to increase that to 1,418? Why is that increase necessary?

Admiral CHEW. This is because of the advent of missiles into the fleet arsenal, and the training required for the new types of weapons, sir, which also include the so-called naval tactical data system.

Senator STENNIS. Well, now, when it comes to air defense, you don't take any particular major part in the air defense of the Nation, do you, ground-to-air?

Admiral Chew. You are vitally concerned with the air defense of your own task force, and this is the air defense at sea.

Senator STENNIS. Yes. But I mean ground-to-air, you do not have any mission in that?

Admiral Chew. Well, it is ship-to-air, sir, from our point of view. Senator STENNIS. Yes.

I notice you say "antiaircraft.” You do not-antiaircraft, AA gunfire. How do you defend these carriers! You have that for lowflying planes ?

Admiral Chew. In the transition into the missile age, we still have guns for close-in work; we have missiles for farther out, and then, of course, we have our own interceptors.

This is primarily designed for the air defense of a task force, sir; and the tactics which have to be studied and mastered before that air defense can be made effective.

Senator STENNIS. These men you are training, they are your enlisted men who have been selected for this work?

Admiral Chew. Enlisted men and officers, sir,
Senator STENNIS. All right.
Next item.

NAVAL TRAINING CENTER, GREAT LAKES, ILL. Admiral Chew. The fourth project is for alterations to station entrances and roads at the estimated cost of $125,000 at the Naval Training Center, Great Lakes, Ill. This center provides basic recruit training, and primary, advanced, and specialized training for officer and enlisted personnel of the Regular Navy and the Naval Reserve. State Highway Route 42 borders the main station area and is the principal access road to the reservation. The highway carries a heavy volume of traffic, making the present on-grade station entrances from the road extremely hazardous. The State is now planinng to improve the road to a four-lane divided highway. These plans incorporate training center recommendations for location and design of grade separation structures for local traffic interchange which will permit grade-separated station entrances. This will require on-station road alteration and construction to connect these grade separations. The new State constructed grade separation ramps will not be completely functional with the existing roads until completion of this project. It will be impracticable to use the two present entrance roads after the new highway is built.

Senator STENNIS. All right.
Next item.


Admiral Chew. Page 50, the construction of a fleet sonar school building at $922,000 at Key West, Fla.

This is for a school building in sonar, very similar to the school activities in Dam Neck for air defense. Our major sonar school is in Key West on the Atlantic coast and at San Diego on the Pacific coast. This is in conjunction with the ASW effort, and the new and improved types of sonar for defense against submarines.

Mr. Chairman, when I said $922,000, I should have said $1,002,000, an increase of $80,000.

Senator STENNIS. This is a new installation, is it not? Admiral Chew. Yes, sir; the sonar school is there now, sir. Senator STENNIS. Only a $2 million investment there; improvements of $2 million ?

Admiral Chew. This is for the construction of a school to house and take care of the additional load.

Senator STENNIS. Is there anything else now going to be required to go with the school; will this involve additional barracks or anything of that kind?

Admiral Chew. No, sir; no additional barracks are required here, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right.
Next item.



Admiral Chew. Fifty-two is the next page, unless you prefer to—I thought perhaps you would care to discuss family housing in one group.

Page 51 is family housing; 52 is the next item at the naval station in the Washington metropolitan area.

Senator STENNIS. Well, 51 is not in my book. That is all right. What is on 51 ?

Admiral Chew. That is Capehart housing.
Senator STENNIS. Capehart; for what place?
Admiral Chew. At Monterey, Calif., sir.
Senator STENNIS. All right.

Admiral Chew. Now, the final unclassified project, Mr. Chairman, is for the naval station in the Washington metropolitan area, and this station is needed as a replacement. I would like to emphasize that the existing naval receiving station at Anacostia is in the path of progress in the construction of the freeway.

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