sified book, but both this page and the succeeding page, the improvement kits are strictly with regard to the electronics and the radar operations.

Senator STENNIS. All right. You do not want to take up any more of that then in open session; is that correct?

General SEEMAN. There are some other items, for instance on page 440.

General SEEMAN. There is here an alert building at Fort Shafter, at an estimated cost of $176,000.

Senator STENNIS. That is a small item.

General SEEMAN. Most of it is classified, Mr. Chairman.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Senator Case, it is now 9 minutes until 5-off the record, Mr. Reporter.

(Discussion off the record.)

Senator STENNIS. I think you could prepare a special lesson on the executive session and, perhaps, we have had a full enough day now.

Is there anything else you want to say about any of the points that we have brought up or have not brought up, I mean, in open session?

General SEEMAN. I have nothing that I can think of.

Senator STENNIS. Perhaps some of your staff members have something. Would you call on anyone else who is with you to say anything they wish to say?

General SEEMAN. No, sir; we do not have anything further.

Colonel EPPERSON. Sir, site 23, the site 23 item, merely covered the barracks buildings. I see no reason for it to be delayed for the executive session unless you have some questions.

Senator STENNIS. Where is that?

Colonel EPPERSON. That is on page 383. You indicated that would be covered in executive session.

General SEEMAN. I indicated that because there are two types of operations at that station, and I did not want to get into the second one. This is both an Army Security Agency which has a responsibility for the housekeeping at the station, and the specialized facilities under the signal are budgeted under the overseas signal,

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General SEEMAN. Mr. Chairman, I would now like to make a comment concerning the emergency or unspecified authorization which the Army is seeking in section 103 of the bill before you.

Section 103 of the Military Construction Authorization Act of fiscal year 1959 authorized the Secretary of the Army to proceed with construction made necessary by changes in Army missions, new weapons developments, new and unforeseen research and development requirements, or improved production schedules, if the Secretary of Defense determines that deferral of such construction for inclusion in the next Military Construction Authorization Act would be inconsistent with interests of national security. A limitation of a total of $17,500,000 was put on this authorization. The fiscal year 1960 Military Construction Authorization Act contained an identically worded authorization, except that the limitation on total amount was $10 million. It should be noted, however, that this authorization does not act to increase the MCA funds made available by Congress. Any

funds expended under this authority must be obtained by the deferral of authorized projects totaling an equivalent amount.

The Department of the Army has not exercised the authority granted in either of the two acts though there have been a number of instances where the use of such authorization was requested by agencies within the Army. To date it has been possible to meet the requirements that have arisen through other means.

The fact that the Army has not utilized this authority to date, speaks well for the well-planned, hard-core programs it has presented to the Congress in recent years. However, continued availability of this authority for emergency unforeseen requirements of the type indicated in section 103, is considered both desirable and necessary, particularly during this era of rapidly developing major military systems.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Mr. Clerk, Mr. Nease, do you have something further now?

Mr. NEASE. You are going to continue with classified in the morning?

Senator STENNIS. I think, gentlemen, maybe you would want to make special preparation on that, pull the ends together.

Let us take the Navy in the morning.

Do you have some deficiency authorizations you wish to discuss, I call them supplemental authorizations?

General SEEMAN. As I mentioned in my very brief remarks, there were $8 million extended over the past 3 years

Senator STENNIS. Pardon me, is there anything else you have besides the supplemental or deficiency and the classified? General SEEMAN. No, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Suppose we take up this supplemental, these items now, if you will.

All right, gentlemen, let us proceed, please, General.

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General SEEMAN. Sir, we have a deficiency authorization book before you.

Senator STENNIS. Yes.

General SEEMAN. Which shows the total items requested as $7,898,000.

Senator STENNIS. That is the total?

General SEEMAN. That is it, and it lists on that same sheet, Mr. Chairman, the various public laws starting with 534 of the 83d Congress, and the item for Fort Carson, Colo.

SENATOR STENNIS. When will that run out, Public Law 534 of the 83d Congress? That will run out when, the 86th Congress is already here.

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir; it is running out. This is a peculiar one here, as indicated on pages 1 and 2. The real requirement for this additional authorization of $257,000 is that there was a contractor's claim at that station which resulted in a decision by the Board of Contract Appeals that a settlement be negotiated with the contractor for additional expense incurred.

Senator STENNIS. And it went over?

General SEEMAN. And it ran over, this item of $257,000.

There is one item, as shown on page 1, an enlisted man's barracks at Camp Hale, which is no longer required, so that has not been built. The other items have all been constructed.

Senator STENNIS. This $257,000, where you ran over; you are not going to ask for an appropriation on that, I suppose? You pick it up some way, do you not, with money you already have?

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir; that is right. We just need the authorization.

Senator STENNIS. You just want

General SEEMAN. To defray those costs.

Senator STENNIS. Will that be true as to all these items?

General SEEMAN. No, sir; that is the only one that involves any claim of the contractor.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Next item.

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General SEEMAN. The next item is the construction of additional facilities at the Alternate Joint Communications Center. The outstanding authorization is for $10,354,000 the prior authorization is $6.3 million, requiring a deficiency of $4,054,000.

This is one of the highest priority items of the Department of Defense. It has been added in the funding plan. You will see it coming up as over the Army's ceiling, but within

Senator STENNIS. Which one is this you are talking about? What page is that?

General SEEMAN. Page 3.

Senator STENNIS. Yes, I thought so. You want to make the rest of this classified?

General SEEMAN. There is nothing classified at the present time. In the funding plan when we come before you in appropriations this will be classified, there will be a classified discussion of this item, sir.

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General SEEMAN. The next one is Public Law 241 of the 85th Congress, starting on page 5, the Transportation Corps at Fort Eustis, Va. Senator STENNIS. You are going to tell me something more about this $4 million item, are you not? You said it is not classified.

General SEEMAN. Additional authorization is required to permit expanding the various supporting utility systems at this communications center sufficiently to accommodate increased demands of water and utilities, and there is an increase in mission over what it was conceived as about 4 or 5 years ago. It is going to extend the security period, I believe, by about 100 percent, the period when the installation can be secured and take care of more people since the reorganization and the increase in mission of this joint staff relative to the combined command.

Senator STENNIS. Is each service asking for an increase in their authorization?

General SEEMAN. No sir. This is for

Senator STENNIS. You are the caretaker of all of them?

General SEEMAN. This is for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, sir, and the Department of Defense.

Senator STENNIS. Do you think this will finish it up?

General SEEMAN. This is the estimate now, sir, yes, subject to more damaging weapons or other things that may arise in the future. Senator STENNIS. All right. Next item.

General SEEMAN. The next item is deficiencies in Public Law 241 of the 85th Congress. The first one is Fort Eustis on page 5. All of these items have been constructed except the last one, and of the total outstanding authorization of $562,000, the requirement is for $747,000, requiring a deficiency of authorization of $185,000.

Senator STENNIS. Well, it would apply then on the barracks? General SEEMAN. As you know, sir, in the authorizing act we are authorized on individual items to exceed the authorized limit by five percent.

Senator STENNIS. Yes.

General SEEMAN. However, in certain cases it must come out of the overall line item station authorization, and in some cases we are able to get them all built, and in some cases where there have been price rises over the years or new requirements for the using services which we cannot accommodate, we come back for a deficiency.

This last item which we have been unable to construct as yet is the enlisted women's barracks at Fort Eustis.

Senator STENNIS. All right.

General SEEMAN. The next item is indicated on page 11 and is the deficiency for Fort Devens, Mass.

There is the prior authorization which is $6,719,000, and the estimated cost at the present time is $7,354,000, which requires a deficiency authorization of $635,000.

Senator STENNIS. Why was that, why did that happen, General? General SEEMAN. Mr. Norwood?

Mr. NORWOOD. One of the reasons, Mr. Chairman, was on the runways and runup areas, which is item No. 96.

The pavement design was changed, increasing the cost.

Such things as shoulders, not previously planned in the estimate, were included, and then the fact that construction costs have gone up in the years since the original estimate was made by 6 percentSenator STENNIS. When was it made for, this item?

Mr. NORWOOD. For the 1958 program. It was made in 1957. It was 3 years ago.

Senator STENNIS. It seems to me like you have an unusual number of them this year, General. Is there any change that you made in your way of handling matters like this that caused you to have so many of them?

General SEEMAN. No, sir. Of the roughly $8 million, it is true that over $4 million is involved in that one AJCC item. I would say this is about average for a program of our size.

Senator STENNIS. All right, General.

General SEEMAN. At the present time; and we mention all these items that were in the original legislation, sir. Most of them are all built.

Senator STENNIS. Yes, I know.

General SEEMAN. It is just a question of the ones that got lost in the shuffle.

Senator STENNIS. It is a matter of presenting the picture.

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right. Next item.

General SEEMAN. The next item is the 4th Army at Fort Bliss, Tex., page 22.

Senator STENNIS. $409,000 out of $7,704,000.

General SEEMAN. Out of $7,704,000; yes, sir. Most of the items have been completed.

Senator STENNIS. Do you have other groupings that ran under your estimates?

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir; these items vary. We might just take up page 22, every one of these items went up slightly; on page 23 the estimated costs of the first one has gone down, the training facilities for guided missiles from $681,000 to $563,000.

The next one, the fifth item down, radio-controlled aerial target maintenance and assembly building and radio station went down from $141,000 to $95,000; another one went down from $67,000 to $59,000. Senator STENNIS. What do you have beyond Fort Bliss?

General SEEMAN. Beyond Fort Bliss we have the 2d session of the 85th Congress, Public Law 685, page 44 for Fort Meade. Senator STENNIS. All right.

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General SEEMAN. These are items, the first three of which have been built. The fourth one, the train fire range has not been built and, Mr. Chairman, we call attention here that this is rather a sizable increase in the deficiency, and our only excuse is that the estimates for these train fire ranges when this concept came in first were very hasty.

They were made without benefit of a detailed reconnaissance of the ground, and in this one case at Fort Meade the averages did not pan out; the ground is quite rough and the estimate is for $383,000 at the present time.

Senator STENNIS. Well, your face ought to be red about this, General. That is a mighty high percent to be off.

General SEEMAN. Yes, I am very unhappy about this, sir; and you will see we have a similar one at Fort Bragg and a similar one at Fort Campbell. They were much the same character. They were the first stations, the high-priority stations, and we wanted to get the program going, and we made average-cost estimates which have proven incorrect.

Senator STENNIS. Is this still for your small planes?

General SEEMAN. This is for the small arms training weapons. Senator STENNIS. I see. Your train fire is the main item, but you have these airfield pavements. They all run

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir; they ran over their cost.

Senator STENNIS. All of them?

General SEEMAN. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Airfield paving and facilities, aircraft fuel, airfield lighting.

General SEEMAN. That is correct.

Mr. NORWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I might mention that these designs have developed in Army aviation with this light aircraft just like the