The committee met at 10:30 a.m., pursuant to call, in room 1223, New Senate Office Building, Hon. Carl Hayden, chairman of the committee, presiding.

Present: Senators Hayden, Ellender, Monroney, Byrd, McGee, Young, Allott, and Cotton.

AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT

STATEMENT OF HON. DAVID E. BELL, ADMINISTRATOR; ACCOMPANIED BY ROY W. CRAWLEY, DIRECTOR, PERSONNEL ADMINTRATION, AID; R. SCOTT MOORE, DIRECTOR, MANAGEMENT PLANNING, AID; EDWARD TENNANT, CONTROLLER, AID; ARNOLD E. SUKROW, SPECIAL ASSISTANT, OFFICE OF PERSONNEL, AID; B. CRAIG RAUPE, DIRECTOR, CONGRESSIONAL LIAISON STAFF, AID; AND LEIGH M. MILLER, LEGISLATIVE PROGRAMS COORDINATOR, AID

PERSONNEL SITUATION

Chairman HAYDEN. The committee will be in order.

Mr. Bell, it is a pleasure to welcome you here today and, on behalf of the committee, I want to wish you the best of luck in your relatively new assignment.

I might explain that when I received Senator McGee's letter of April 18 suggesting that we hold hearings specifically to review the situation with respect to possible excess personnel and other personnel problems in the AID Agency, I decided this might be very constructive.

We are asked to appropriate large sums of money each year for foreign aid and to restore sizable cuts made by the House. I thought that by adopting Senator McGee's suggestion that we take a look at the personnel administration and staffing of this Agency apart from our consideration of the regular 1964 budget requests, we might make our task of the budget review easier. We might be able not only to save more public funds, but make for more efficient operation of the Agency and be of some assistance to the new Administrator in carrying out his difficult job.

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