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EXPANDED ELECTRIC POWER TRANSMISSION AND

TRANSACTIONS AMONG THE NORTHWEST, CALIFORNIA, AND CANADA

OVERSIGHT HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINING, FOREST MANAGEMENT, AND BONNEVILLE

POWER ADMINISTRATION

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

EXPANDED ELECTRIC POWER TRANSMISSION AND TRANSACTIONS

AMONG THE NORTHWEST, CALIFORNIA, AND CANADA

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EXPANDED ELECTRIC POWER TRANSMISSION AND

TRANSACTIONS AMONG THE NORTHWEST, CALIFORNIA, AND CANADA

OVERSIGHT HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINING, FOREST MANAGEMENT, AND BONNEVILLE

POWER ADMINISTRATION

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

EXPANDED ELECTRIC POWER TRANSMISSION AND TRANSACTIONS

AMONG THE NORTHWEST, CALIFORNIA, AND CANADA

HEARING HELD IN EUGENE, OREG.

JULY 11, 1983

Serial No. 98-18

Printed for the use of the
Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

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COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona, Chairman PHILLIP BURTON, California

MANUEL LUJAN, JR., New Mexico ABRAHAM KAZEN, JR., Texas

Ranking Republican Member JOHN F. SEIBERLING, Ohio

DON YOUNG, Alaska ANTONIO BORJA WON PAT, Guam

ROBERT J. LAGOMARSINO, California JAMES WEAVER, Oregon

DAN MARRIOTT, Utah JAMES J. FLORIO, New Jersey

RON MARLENEE, Montana PHILIP R. SHARP, Indiana

RICHARD B. CHENEY, Wyoming EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts CHARLES PASHAYAN, JR., California BALTASAR CORRADA, Puerto Rico

LARRY CRAIG, Idaho AUSTIN J. MURPHY, Pennsylvania

HANK BROWN, Colorado NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia DENNY SMITH, Oregon BRUCE F. VENTO, Minnesota

JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah JERRY HUCKABY, Louisiana

BILL EMERSON, Missouri JERRY M. PATTERSON, California

JOHN MCCAIN, Arizona
RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado

BARBARA VUCANOVICH, Nevada
DALE E. KILDEE, Michigan
TONY COELHO, California
BEVERLY B. BYRON, Maryland
RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands
SAMUEL GEJDENSON, Connecticut
WILLIAM PATMAN, Texas
PETER H. KOSTMAYER, Pennsylvania
JAMES MOODY, Wisconsin
ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
JAMES MCCLURE CLARKE, North Carolina
JAMES F. McNULTY, JR., Arizona
RICHARD H. LEHMAN, California

STANLEY SCOVILLE, Staff Director and Counsel

Roy JONES, Associate Staff Director

LEE McELVAIN, General Counsel
TIMOTHY W. GLIDDEN, Republican Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINING, FOREST MANAGEMENT, AND BONNEVILLE POWER

ADMINISTRATION

JAMES WEAVER, Oregon, Chairman MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona

DAN MARRIOTT, Utah ABRAHAM KAZEN, JR., Texas

BARBARA VUCANOVICH, Nevada JOHN F. SEIBERLING, Ohio

DON YOUNG, Alaska AUSTIN J. MURPHY, Pennsylvania

LARRY CRAIG, Idaho NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia

BILL EMERSON, Missouri JERRY HUCKABY, Louisiana

JOHN MCCAIN, Arizona
RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado

MANUEL LUJAN, JR., New Mexico
BEVERLY B. BYRON, Maryland
JAMES MOODY, Wisconsin
ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
JAMES F. McNULTY, JR., Arizona

DANIEL MEEK, Counsel
KAREN A. SHAFFER, Republican Counsel on Mines and Mining
NOTE.—The first listed minority member is counterpart to the subcommittee chairman.

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CONTENTS

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Hearing held: July 11, 1983

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MONDAY, JULY 11, 1983

Statements:

Panel consisting of:

Hon. John W. Sprague, Associate Director, Resources, Community,

and Economic Development Division, U.S. General Accounting

Office

4, 89

Hon. Peter T. Johnson, Administrator, Bonneville Power Administra-

tion.....

6, 98

Hon. William H. Clagett, Deputy Administrator, Western Area

Power Administration

8, 248

Robert Saxvik, vice chairman, Northwest Power Planning Council ...... 8, 268

Panel consisting of:

Randall W. Hardy, executive director, Pacific Northwest Utilities

Conference Committee..

31, 278

James W. Durham, senior vice president and general counsel, Port-

land General Electric Co.....

33, 339

Mark M. Reis, executive director, Northwest Conservation Act

Coalition

33, 397

Panel consisting of:

Archer F. Pugh, vice mayor, city of Redding, Calif.; president, Mo-

desto-Santa Clara-Redding (MSR) Public Power Agency; and chair-

man, Northern California Power Agency .....

47, 409

Dale L. Pohlman, assistant general manager, power resources, Ana-

heim Public Utilities Department, representing the cities of Ana-

heim, Azusa, Banning, Colton, and Riverside, Calif....

50, 416

Bernard Palk, Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, repre-

senting the cities of Los Angeles, Burbank, Glendale, and Pasade-

na, Calif..

52, 423

Glenn J. Bjorklund, vice president, Southern California Edison Co.... 56, 446

Nolan H. Daines, vice president, planning and research, Pacific Gas

& Electric Co....

58, 466

John W. Arlidge, vice president, Nevada Power Co........

60, 489

Panel consisting of:

Michael Rosenzweig, Technical Advisor to Commissioner David

Hughes, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).

80, 515

Frank Taussig, assistant commissioner, on behalf of John J. Lobdell,

Oregon Public Utility Commissioner

82, 578

Perry Swisher, commissioner, Idaho Public Utilities Commission 83, 589

25 ja84

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