United States 'CREATING THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SE- HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION JUNE 25 and JULY 9, 2002 Serial No. 107-113 Printed for the use of the Committee on Energy and Commerce Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/house 80-680CC U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE W.J. "BILLY" TAUZIN, Louisiana, Chairman MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, Florida FRED UPTON, Michigan PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio JAMES C. GREENWOOD, Pennsylvania RICHARD BURR, North Carolina GREG GANSKE, Iowa CHARLIE NORWOOD, Georgia BARBARA CUBIN, Wyoming JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois HEATHER WILSON, New Mexico CHARLES "CHIP" PICKERING, Mississippi ROBERT L. EHRLICH, Jr., Maryland GEORGE RADANOVICH, California LEE TERRY, Nebraska ERNIE FLETCHER, Kentucky JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan BART GORDON, Tennessee BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois ANNA G. ESHOO, California MICHAEL F. DOYLE, Pennsylvania DAVID V. MARVENTANO, Staff Director REID P.F. STUNTZ, Minority Staff Director and Chief Counsel Atlas, Ronald, President-Elect, American Society for Microbiology Baumann, Jeremiah D., Environmental Health Advocate, U.S. Public Page 249 Cassell, Gail H., Vice President, Scientific Affairs, Distinguished Lilly Cobb, Donald D., Associate Director for Threat Reduction, Los Alamos 158 Copeland, Guy, Vice President, Information Infrastructure Advisory Pro- 223 Costantini, Lynn P., Director Online Services, North American Electric Dacey, Robert F., Director, Information Security Issues, General Account- 232 207 Gordon, General John A., Administrator, National Nuclear Security Ad- 57 Hamburg, Margaret A., Vice President, Biological Programs, Nuclear 166 July 9, 2002 157 Plaugher, Edward P., Chief, Arlington County Fire Department, Execu- tive Agent, Washington Area National Medical Response Team Ridge, Hon. Tom, Director of Transition Planning for Proposed Depart- ment of Homeland Security and Assistant to the President for Home- Smith, William, Executive Vice President, Network Operations, Sobel, David L., General Counsel, Electronic Privacy Information Center . Stringer, Lew, Medical Director, Division of Emergency Management, Tritak, John S., Director, Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office, Department of Commerce Vantine, Harry C., Program Leader, Counterterrorism and Incident Response, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Page 97 238 182 79 Varnado, Samuel G., Director, Infrastructure and Information Systems 191 Watson, Kenneth C., President, Partnership for Critical Infrastructure 242 Additional material submitted for the record: Ahern, Jason P., Assistant Commissioner, U.S. Customs Service, prepared statement of 267 Brooks, Linton F., Acting Administrator, National Nuclear Security Administration, U.S. Department of Energy, prepared statement of Bryden, Robert A., Stff Vice President of Security, FedEx Corporation, prepared statement of 269. 272 Holsen, Jim, Vice President, Engineering, United Parcel Service, Inc., prepared statement of 287 Howe, Barry, Vice President, Thermo Electron Corporation, prepared statement of 284 Jones, Gary, Director, Natural Resources and Environmental Issues, Gen- 291 282 Nokes, David, Director, Systems Assessment and Research Center, 288 Panico, Frank, Manager, International Networks and Transportation, 272 Shotts, Wayne J., Associate Director for Nonproliferation, Arms Comtrol and International Security, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, prepared statement of 274 (IV) CREATING THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY: CONSIDERATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TUESDAY, JUNE 25, 2002 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE, SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:10 a.m., in room 2123, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. James C. Greenwood (chairman) presiding. Members present: Representatives Greenwood, Stearns, Gillmor, Burr, Whitfield, Bass, Fletcher, Tauzin (ex officio), Deutsch, Stupak, Strickland, and DeGette. Also present: Representatives Deal, Cubin, Waxman, Markey, Sawyer, Capps, and Harman. Staff present: Tom DiLenge, majority counsel; Amit Sachdev, majority counsel; Ray Shepherd, majority counsel; Nandan Kenkeremath, majority counsel; Edith Holleman, minority counsel; and Chris Knauer, minority investigator. Mr. GREENWOOD. The subcommittee will come to order. The Chair would announce before the commencement of opening statements that, pursuant to the rules, the chairman of the subcommittee and the ranking member and the chairman of the full committee and the ranking member of the full committee will be accorded 5 minutes for opening statements; other members of the subcommittee shall be accorded 3 minutes apiece. We welcome the participation of other members of the full committee who are not members of the subcommittee, and should they arrive and wish to make opening statements, we will grant them time-yield them time, the amount of time being dependent upon how many of them there are. And the Chair welcomes Governor Ridge, my friend-good to have you with us-and yields himself 5 minutes for the purpose of an opening statement. Good morning. Today the subcommittee will hold the first day of a multipart hearing to examine how the Bush Administration's proposal to establish a Department of Homeland Security will affect the agencies and the operations over which this committee now exercises principal jurisdiction. Our first witness is the current Director of the Office of Homeland Security and our former colleague, Governor Tom Ridge, who is appearing today in his capacity as the chief of the transition team for this new department. (1) |