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cally give you the property. Isn't that about what the substance of it is?

Mr. WACHTER. Well, I am not a lawyer either. It may very well be interpreted that way. The intent is to make it clear that the university considers this a long-term part of its activities, and we propose to continue to use them for that purpose until such time as the government concluded they were no longer necessary for that purpose, after which there would be a cancellation of the terms of the agreement.

Chairman HAYS. I am not alarmed that the university is going to cancel the agreement and take over the property even under the old contract though this would be a legal possibility. It seems to me you would have every right, the university would have every right, sometimes to say you can't do this any longer, but you shouldn't be able to assimilate the property. Now substantially that is what this agreement does, doesn't it? The university could cancel its agreement to be associated with the East-West Center, but it couldn't immediately take over the property of the East-West Center, isn't that right?

Mr. WACHTER. I would assume that to be the case, yes. We could only take it over once we were released of our obligation to carry this program further as a result of action by the Department of State.

Chairman HAYS. As I say, I am not alarmed, but I think, from a cursory examination of it, this would satisfy the critics who say that someday the university would say, "We have had it; we are through with this," and would automatically be the recipient of a lot of valuable property. This has been a criticism back in Congress. This is not an isolated thing. I would say, from an examination, this would cure it and that is one of the things we wanted to do.

Mr. WACHTER. We wanted to call this particularly to your attention because we believe this will meet that requirement, and we should be able to move ahead with the program without any doubts being cast on the long-term availability of the facilities and equipment. I should have included in that grant-in-aid agreement the complete package, the whole contract, and I would like to substitute that for the document you now have. You may not want to incorporate it into the record, but it might be important that your committee have it in your files. Chairman HAYS. We would like to have that.

Mr. WACHTER. It is a complete grant-in-aid agreement. This will conclude my part of the presentation on the first part of the subject that you referred to.

Chairman HAYS. Yes, would you like to proceed to budget expenditures and capital improvements?

Mr. WACHTER. The amendment to the agreement, which I just referred to, has been prepared for several reasons, some of which I have outlined. Additionally, it is to provide an additional $3,300,000 as authorized in the supplemental appropriation after 1962. This is an additional amount beyond the $10 million covered in the original grant-in-aid agreement. This additional amount carries with it the statement that no porton of these additional funds shall be used for capital improvements. Such funds are made available only for operational costs, scholarships, and grants. This is the direct result of the action of Congress in prohibiting any additional capital improvements until these previous questions that I have raised are satisfactorily answered. Second, this amendment is to provide for the use

of the East-West Center facilities and land in perpetuity. It is to provide a limitation on salaries, which is written into the legislation, to provide the nondiscrimination employment agreement, and also to provide for the use of U.S.-flag vessels from funds made available under this agreement. This same clause is in most of the Government agreements. With respect to the additional sum of $3,300,000, this would be added to the original grant-in-aid of $10 million to provide a total then of $13,300,000 to carry the program forward. This is broken into three main categories: Operational costs of the Center, slightly more than a million dollars; scholarships and grants, $4,040,000.

Dr. SNYDER. Excuse me, Mr. Wachter, does it follow the last sheet of this large

Mr. WACHTER. Yes, it's also in the grant-in-aid agreement itself. Capital improvements, $8,160,975

Chairman HAYS. Right there I would like to ask a question about capital improvements. Is this money all obligated, have the contracts been let, or buildings under construction, or what?

Mr. WACHTER. The entire first stage of the physical development is described generally in the second page of the amendment to the agreement, which is to provide for the construction of dormitory facilities for 600 students; transient quarters facilities, a combination of single quarters and apartment units; food service facility, and administrative offices; an auditorium; and classrooms and laboratories. These six building projects have been completely designed, contracts have been advertised for rather competitive bids were advertised and received and contracts were awarded for the whole package, so this really has been obligated.

Chairman HAYS. And they are in the process of construction?

Mr. WACHTER. They are in the process of construction, and I would like, a little bit later, possibly, or at this point, if you wish, to point them out to you as they are demonstrated on these visual materials. This might be a good time to do it.

Chairman HAYS. Go ahead.

Mr. WACHTER. This map is a little far away, but I would like to use it for orientation purposes. First, this is actually a map of the Manoa campus, delineated by a boundary line which stretches all the way down here, up to this point, and around this portion [indicating]. This is an inset which is supposed to be on this side, the other side of University Avenue [indicating]. It's a map of the campus on which I would like to point out the various facilities now under construction as a result of the East-West Center program. Again for orientation purposes, you are now located in this building, Bachman Hall, at this point [indicating]. If you were to face to the back, you would find the university library immediately to your left. This is Dole Street and this is University Avenue [indicating], which comprise the two main boundaries of the instructional portion of the campus. The facilities as a result of the East-West Center program are under construction in this general area, along with one project at this location. [indicating]. There are six buildings, as shown, five in this area, plus an additional one at this location. The locations of these facilities were carefully planned at the time this project was being considered. The university undertook a reevaluation of the long-range plan of

development for the campus so it could locate these facilities in the most effective, functional location relative to the rest of the development of the physical plant itself. As a result then, this whole section, bounded by this new street and this line, which is Manoa Stream, has been zoned for student housing [indicating]. Consequently, the facilities which are under construction as a result of the East-West Center are principally housing facilities on that side of this particular street. This, for example, is a dormitory for 480 students; this is a second dormitory for 120 students [indicating]. This is a transient facility to house visitors and others who come to the Center as a result of its program [indicating]. This is the location of the administration facility and it also includes a central lounge and food service to serve this portion of the development [indicating]. This is the auditorium, lecture hall, immediately opposite the administration building on this portion of the main campus, zoned for instructional uses. This is the laboratory-classroom building under construction as a result of this program [indicating]. While I am here I would like also to point out that this project is closely related to the Center conceptit is the international gateway dormitory. It happens to be the one you find on the wall in perspective, under construction at this location [indicating]. It's the State's direct contribution to this whole concept in providing additional housing facilities on the Manoa

campus.

Chairman HAYS. Who will live there-East-West students or general

Mr. WACHTER. It can be East-West Center as well as general students of the university. As a matter of fact, it is our thought and feeling that East-West Center students would not be confined to single dormitories; that they would be spread throughout the available facilities of our student housing system, including the gateway house dormitory. Certainly, other university students could be assigned to these other facilities.

Chairman HAYS. Right at this point, do you have any plans, or have you talked about facilities, for people who may be advanced graduate students to bring their families?

Mr. WACHTER. This has been discussed at some length; however, I don't believe there have been any specific conclusions reached as to how this problem might be resolved. We do have, however, a proposal which will be presented to the State legislature for capital improvement appropriation for planning of other housing units, including housing for graduate, married students, other students, lowerranking faculty, and so on.

Chairman HAYS. You are aware that under the new legislation, the so-called Fulbright-Hays Act, under certain conditions the Government can pay for dependents accompanying students?

Mr. WACHTER. Yes; that is something we will have to give very serious consideration to in terms of attempting to provide facilities to accommodate them.

Mr. SEELY-BROWN. Is it my understanding that those buildings which are currently under construction, which you have indicated in the dark black on the map those buildings will be used by all university students or just East-West grantees? Let's start with the dormitories.

Mr. WACHTER. These dormitories are being provided for on the basis of a bed for each student who might be brought here under the program, but in terms of assignment of students, we might assign East-West Center students not in that dormitory but in the gatehouse dormitory and, in turn, might assign one of our regular students with the proper educational background to one of these units to permit the greatest possible mixing of these students with regular university students. These other projects are self-explanatory. This is the location of the geophysical institute and the health research institute [indicating].

Chairman HAYS. What are the red buildings? Is there a significance to those?

Mr. WACHTER. This map was prepared for other purposes and I am merely using it. The red buildings are projects scheduled to be under construction this fiscal year with funds from other than East-West Center programs. This is the swimming pool, for example, and this is the geophysics institute, which is supported by the National Science Foundation [indicating]. This black one is actually under construction now but will house the health research institute, partially supported by a grant from the National Institutes of Health. These others are other projects central food service, fiscal plans, and so on.

Chairman HAYS. It might be well to ask a question right there about this health institute. It is going to be partly financed by the National Institutes of Health. Will that be on special kinds of research, such as tropical diseases, or general problems?

Mr. WACHTER. I will refer that to Dr. Snyder who can answer more specifically.

Dr. SNYDER. This will be for general health research, but I am sure the people who will use it will be almost entirely concerned with health in this area.

Chairman HAYS. How much assistance is the NIH making available?

Mr. WACHTER. For this particular project, a quarter of a million dollars. The grant was a quarter of a million dollars, which was matched by State appropriations, which has been incorporated into a larger project which consists of the health research institute, laboratory, and classroom facilities. This one here is a project completely supported by the Federal Government through the National Science Foundation. It is the central research facility for the institute of geophysics, which was made available to the university in order to strengthen its program in this particular area in the overall interests of the National Government and overall program of improvement of the university. In this regard, this is similar to the grant to the university for the construction of the special facilities to accommodate the East-West Center program. I hope I will have the opportunity to show them to you on the ground since they are under construction. This is a model of the two main units in the facility. You have to imagine this shifted slightly around in order to get the proper orientation. This is the lecture hall-auditorium; this is the administrationfood service facility, immediately across the street from each other [indicating].

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h Chairman HAYS. When is it contemplated they will be finished? Mr. WACHTER. The contract requires that these be finished July 25, 62. There is a possibility that they will be delayed to some extent ecause of conditions beyond our control and beyond the control of he contractor.

Chairman HAYS. Well, they always blame it on the winter weather ack in Ohio. What do they blame it on here?

Mr. WACHTER. It rains here, too. We have tried to schedule this in order to get it under construction and have it completed in time for he fall semester of 1962, in accordance with the original schedule.

Mr. SEELY-BROWN. May I ask a question? Would it be possible to make available for the record the total figure of money made available by the U.S. Government, not only through the East-West contract but the National Institutes of Health, the National Science Foundation-all the money that has been made available by the Federal Government for capital improvement at the university?

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Mr. WACHTER. For capital improvement?

Mr. SEELY-BROWN. Well, the kind of improvement we are talking about here-building construction. I think that would be an important figure to have for the record.

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UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII, HONOLULU, HAWAII

Capital improvements at the University of Hawaii from funds made available by grant from the U.S. Government, Jan. 4, 1962

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Mr. WACHTER. These other sketches are merely renderings of the buildings as we hope to have them completed in the near future. Chairman HAYS. Would you mind telling us just briefly what they are? I looked at them, but I don't think the others did.

Mr. WACHTER. This one here is closely related to this one; this one being the pilot plan development of the five units [indicating], and you note this is the lecture hall, auditorium; this is the administration unit [indicating]; the transient quarters; this is a second dormitory shown here as well as the theater auditorium; the food service unit; the transient quarters and the second dormitory [indicating]. This is, in effect, a perspective, looking from the theater-auditorium toward the administration food service unit. In effect you are standing over here [indicating] looking across the street at this particular unit. This is a view, in effect, from a point such as this [indicating] in this direction, showing these two units in their relation to each other, the transient quarters and the low-rise dormitory [indicating]. This is a

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