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By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. Do you know his business?

A. No; I do not.

Q. Could you give us the first name of Swangin, was it?
A. Swangin, Pearl.

Q. Do you know her employment?

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Q. Did you subsequently receive your credit card back from Miss Upshur?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. How long after March 28 was that?

A. Very shortly. I don't remember exactly when, but very shortly thereafter.

Q. Did you bring to the attention of Congressman Powell the fact that as far as you knew your credit card had been used to purchase tickets for three persons who were not employed by Congress?

A. I was given the order by the chairman to make these purchases. Q. For these particular people who used the tickets?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you question whether or not it was proper to use your Government travel card to purchase tickets for those persons? A. No, sir; I didn't.

Q. Did Mr. Powell explain to you at the time why he was asking you to use Government funds to purchase these tickets for these persons?

A. No, sir; he did not.

Mr. HAYS. May I ask a question? Did he tell you to purchase the ticket for Miss Swangin and for Mr. Duncan or did I understand you to say earlier that he told you to purchase tickets for Harris, Anderson, and Upshur?

The WITNESS. He asked me to purchase the tickets in the name of these people, with the understanding that these four people were going to use them.

Mr. HAYS. That the other four people were going to use them?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.

By Mr. TAYLER:

Q. We have shown you three transportation receipts showing travel on that date on the shuttle by-presumably, or purportedly-by Harris, Anderson, and yourself. Did you ever see attached to any voucher another ticket or transportation receipt to indicate who used the fourth ticket?

A. I don't

Q. Do you know whose name was actually used to purchase that fourth ticket? We have only shown you three.

A. It was to be Odell Clark. Now, I don't remember.

Q. Did there come a time when you received in the normal course of your office business a voucher for the payment to Eastern Airlines for those four shuttle tickets?

A. Yes.

Q. Did yon notice at that time who signed for the fourth ticket? A. May I check?

Q. Yes.

A. I have a Thermofax copy of the coupon in the name of Odell Clark, or someone has signed "Odell Clark."

Q. Would you produce that, please? Is that for March 28, 1965, on the shuttle?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. The copy you have produced is a copy of one of these Eastern Airlines transportation receipts showing an in-flight purchase on March 28, 1965, on your credit card of a shuttle ticket between Washington and New York and in the upper left-hand corner a signature purporting to be that of Odell Clark. Is that what you have produced?

A. Yes, sir.

Mr. TAYLER. May this be marked as "Dargans Exhibit 4"?

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(The above-referred-to document was marked "Dargans Exhibit 4" and received in evidence.)

Mr. TAYLER. At this time, Mr. Chairman, I would offer into the record Dargans Exhibits 1, 2, 3, and 4, being the four Eastern Airlines transportation receipt forms that have been mentioned in her testi

mony.

Mr. HAYS. Without objection, they will be entered at the appropriate place.

(The exhibits referred to were received into the record as heretofore noted.)

By Mr. TAYLER:

Q. Mrs. Dargans, are there any other instances during the life of the 89th Congress when you have either loaned your credit card to someone else or have used it to purchase tickets for someone other than staff employees whose travel was authorized by the chairman ? A. To my certain knowledge, no, sir.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. What do you mean by your "certain knowledge”?
A. As far as I know.

By Mr. TAYLER:

Q. You have never loaned your card to anyone other than on this one occasion; is that right?

A. That is right.

Q. Did you ever purchase any airline tickets for an employee of the committee named Walter B. Huber?

A. I don't remember offhand. I am asked to purchase tickets for all of the staff and I can't remember just offhand whether I had ever bought a ticket for Walter Huber.

Q. Do you know whether or not he has performed any travel for the committee since January 3, 1965 ?

A. No, I do not.

Q. Would you have any records in your office which would show travel performed by Mr. Huber if he had in fact performed it?

A. If I had had to purchase transportation for him, I would have a record. If he had presented a voucher for per diem in connection with such travel, I would have a record.

Q. Upon the conclusion of your appearance before this committee, would you check your records to see if you have any record of any committee travel performed by Walter B. Huber since January 3, 1965, and would you advise me as soon as you have made that check? A. Yes, sir.

Q. All of my questions relate to the period since January 3, 1965, for convenience.

A. This would be my T-4 record, airline vouchers and

Q. Whatever records you have that you regularly maintain that would reflect committee employees' travel.

A. Per diem vouchers.

Mr. HAYS. Off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. HAYS. On the record.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. Were these purchases that were made on March 28, 1965 entered on your T-4?

A. Yes.

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Q. How did you enter the names of the travelers?

A. Aurora Harris, Don Anderson, Odell Clark-as the tickets were made up.

Q. At the time you entered their names on the T-4, would that be before the 28th of March or after the 28th of March?

A. After the 28th of March.

Q. Who appears on the T-4, as you call it, as the recipient of the tickets?

A. The names that I have mentioned.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. They are not the ones who actually made the travel?

A. No.

By Mr. TAYLER:

Q. I understood you to say that you had the recipient of the ticket in each instance sign for receipt of them. Wasn't that your practice with respect to maintaining these T-4's?

A. Yes, but the person who signed-for instance, if I had gotten a request from the chairman's office to order some tickets and send them over to him—to order a ticket and send it over to him, this is what I would do, and tell the staff member that the chairman has authorized this ticket for him and ask him to come and sign for it.

Q. In these instances we are talking about, did Miss Harris and Mr. Clark and Mr. Anderson sign your T-4 to show receipt of the ticket?

A. Yes, they did.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. They did?

A. They did

By Mr. TAYLER:

Q. Did you ask them to come in and sign for the tickets?

A. Yes, I did. "The chairman has ordered this transportation in your name. Will you come and sign for it?"

Q. This was under circumstances where they knew they were signing for receipt of a ticket purchased with Government funds which they had in fact not used, isn't that correct?

A. Yes.

By Mr. O'CONNOR:

Q. How many requests like this did you get from a Congressman's office?

A. This is the only such request that I received.

Q. The only one?

A. When you say "instances like this

Q. Yes, where a Congressman asked you to obtain four tickets and send them to his office and then you put the names of staff members on those tickets, is this the only time?

A. No, no. I would get a request from the chairman to "Get a ticket for John Doe to go to New York City and send it over to me." This is what I would do. Now, many times I received a request like that.

Q. Many times John Doe did not make that trip, somebody else made that trip?

A. I cannot say that John Doe did or didn't make the trip.

Q. Well, in each instance like that did you have John Doe come and sign that he had made the trip?

A. Or that he intended to make the trip.

By Mr. TAYLER.

Q. Sometimes you got him to sign with receipt of the ticket on the T-4 before he made the trip?

A. Yes.

Q. Before the date of the travel?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, going back to Dargans exhibit 1, which is the Eastern Airlines transportation receipt for that shuttle trip on March 28, which bears the purported signature of Maxienne M. Dargans, now how did you handle that on the T-4 when you had to have the signature of the recipient of the ticket? Did you sign the name Maxienne M. Dargans on the T-4?

A. No, I did not.

Q. Who signed as recipient of that particular ticket?

A. There is no T-4 for that ticket.

Q. Why didn't you maintain one?

A. Because when I got the coupon from the airline, in going back through my files I find that I noted on this coupon "Purchased and used this night by Lillian Upshur" for my records, instead of a T-4. Q. Is that the same ticket that was signed for in your name on the airplane?

A. Yes.

Q. How do you know that?

A. It appears to be it is a copy of the one that you just showed me because I ran off a copy when the Eastern Airlines statement came in for payment.

By Mr. O'CONNOR :

Q. What you are telling us is that you put Upshur's name on the T-4?

A. I did not prepare a T-4 for this ticket.

Q. That one ticket?

A. That is right.

Q. But you did prepare a T-4 for the Clark, Harris, and Anderson

names?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. So there is one ticket, apparently, on the T-4, that is unaccountable for, and that would be this one where you have your personal note on it?

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