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COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
STROM THURMOND, South Carolina, Chairman
EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah
ROBERT C. BYRD, West Virginia ROBERT DOLE, Kansas
HOWARD M. METZENBAUM, Ohio ALAN K. SIMPSON, Wyoming
DENNIS DECONCINI, Arizona JOHN P. EAST, North Carolina
PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa
MAX BAUCUS, Montana JEREMIAH DENTON, Alabama
HOWELL HEFLIN, Alabama
VINTON DEVANE LIDE, Chief Counsel
SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE POLICY
ALAN K. SIMPSON, Wyoming, Chairman STROM THURMOND, South Carolina
EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa
DENNIS DECONCINI, Arizona
Donna M. ALVARADO, Counsel
CHARLES O. Wood, Counsel
BHBS 182ny 82
CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES
ice, U.S. Department of Justice, accompanied by David Hiller, Special As-
sistant to the Attorney General
of State ...
American Advancement, accompanied by Alfredo Montoya, executive direc-
Schmitt, Hon. Harrison: Testimony
News release, U.S. Chamber of Commerce, September 30, 1981.
THE KNOWING EMPLOYMENT OF ILLEGAL
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 1981
Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:35 a.m., in room 412, Russell Building, Hon. Alan Simpson (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
Present: Senators Simpson, Grassley, Kennedy, and DeConcini.
Also present: Richard Day, chief counsel and staff director, and Charles Wood, counsel.
OPENING STATEMENT OF ALAN K. SIMPSON, U.S. SENATOR FROM
THE STATE OF WYONING, CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE POLICY
Senator SIMPSON. Good morning. Today the subcommittee's series of hearings on the major issues of immigration law reform continues with the very critical subject of employer sanctions. The series will continue in October, when we will have at least five more hearings.
I will share with you here today the quarters of the Veterans Affairs Committee, which I chair. That is the only way I can find a room around this place. It is not exactly copious, but it is the only one we can have surety of obtaining.
So today we are on the issue of employer sanctions. I continue to believe and know, as many of you do, that the enforcement of our immigration laws is indeed in the national interest. Yet the potential benefits and protections of even the most carefully designed statutory standards for determining who may enter the United States for how long, and under what conditions, will not be available in practice if those statutory standards cannot be enforced.
One of the problems, of course, is that some individuals and companies derive very great short-term economic benefits from uncontrolled immigration. However, what is in the short term and purely economic interest of certain industries or even of existing American consumers is not necessarily in the overall interest of the Nation, either long term or short term. Illegal immigration can produce adverse impacts which should be balanced against any short-term economic benefits to certain industries or consumers. I do not intend to review those adverse impacts at this time. If the use of foreign workers is, on balance, beneficial under certain cir