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FEDERAL PAY LEGISLATION

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE

UNITED STATES SENATE

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H.R. 11049

A BILL TO ADJUST THE RATES OF BASIC COMPENSATION OF CERTAIN OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES IN THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

SEPTEMBER 5, 1963, MAY 4, 7, 11, 14, 18, 22, and 25, 1964

Printed for the use of the
Committee on Post Office and Civil Service

UNIVERSITI

STANFORD

JUN 1964

GOV'T

NOISINIO

DOCUMENT

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1964

32-884

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COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE

OLIN D. JOHNSTON, South Carolina, Chairman A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, Oklahoma

FRANK CARLSON, Kansas RALPH YARBOROUGH, Texas

HIRAM L. FONG, Hawaii JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia J. CALEB BOGGS, Delaware GALE W. MCGEE, Wyoming DANIEL B. BREWSTER, Maryland

WILLIAM P. GULLEDGE, Staff Director and Counsel

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CONTENTS

Page

57

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H.R. 11049

Original draft bill of Civil Service Commission (dated May 16 1963).
Randall report, entitled “Report of the Advisory Panel on Fedral Salary

Systems”.

12

Batty, Edward G. executive secretary, the National Society of Federal

Engineers, Scientists & Allied Professionals; accompanied by James W.
Raffensperger, national president----

243
Biemiller Andrew J., Director, Department of Legislation, American Fed-
eration of Labor & Congress of Industrial Organizations---

173
Bolduc, Francis J., executive director, New Jersey State Bar Association. 297
Brady, John G., chairman, Committee on Legislation, National Association

of Internal Revenue Employees; accompanied by George Bursach,
executive secretary-treasurer.

250
Brown, Dr. David S., professor of public administration, the George Wash-

ington University; accompanied by Philip Thorson, past president,

Washington area chapter, American Society for Public Administration. 281

Campbell, William J., Chief Judge, U.S. District Court, Chicago, Ill. - 294

Craig, Walter E., American Bar Association.

298

Damiani, Louis S., legislative representative, Panama Canal Zone Central

Labor Union & Metal Trades Council, AFL-CIO..

153

Dirksen, Hon. Everett M., a U.S. Senator from the State of Illinois

209

Gibson, Everett G., president, National Federation of Post Office Motor

Vehicle Employees, AFL-CIO.-

190

Gladieux, Bernard L., chairman, board of directors, National Civil Service

League---

98

Gowen, Leo F., missile engineer, Naval Ordnance Laboratory, White Oak,
Md.

289
Griner, John F., on behalf of the American Federation of Government

Employees and the American Federation of Technical Engineers---- 174, 177

Hammond, Harold F., president, Transportation Association of America.. 118

Hartmann, Dr. Gregory K., president, Federal Professional Association;

accompanied by Vincent Jay, executive vice president---

224

Jaspan, Daniel, legislative representative, National Association of Postal

Supervisors -

219

Jones, Woodrow, president, National Association of ASCS County Em-
ployees (NASCOE)

240
Jordan, Max, president, National Rural Letter Carriers' Association --- 122
Keating, Jerome J., president, National Association of Letter Carriers, on

behalf of the Government Employees Council, AFL-CI0; accompanied
by John F. Griner, president, American Federation of Government
Employees; Albert Raeder, assistant research director, International
Association of Fire Fighters; John F. O'Connor, legislative representa-
tive, United Federation of Postal Clerks; Harold McAvoy, president,
National Association of Post Office & Postal Transportation Service,
Mail Handlers, Watchmen & Messengers; and Everett G. Gibson, presi-

dent, National Federation of Post Office Motor Vehicle Employees- 155

Lasseter, Dillard B., executive officer, Organization of Pr ssional Em-

ployees of the U.S. Department of Agriculture-

236

MacKay, John W., president, National Postal Unio: inpanied by

David Silvergleid, national secretary-treasurer, ani r O. Noreen,

executive vice president.

261

Macy, Hon. John W., Jr., Chairman, U.S_Civil Se vice Commission, ac-

companied by 0. Glenn Stahl, Director, Bureau of Programs and Stand-

ards.

MoAvoy, Harold, president, National Association of Post Office Mail

Handlers

181

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Messer, Roy A., legislative representative, National Association of Post Page
Office and General Services Maintenance Employees --

253
Murphy, John J., president, National Customs Association-

257
Murphy, Hon. Richard J., Assistant Postmaster General, Bureau of Per-

sonnel, accompanied by Dr. Herbert Block, Director, Compensation
Division; Mrs. Anne P. Flory, Assistant Director, Compensation Divi-
sion; and Adam Wenchel, Associate General Counsel..

125, 191
O'Connor, John F., legislative director, United Federation of Postal Clerks. 178
Owen, Vaux, president, National Federation of Federal Employees.-

265
Payne, Clyde R., secretary-treasurer, National Association

of Agricultural
Štabilization and Conservation Service County Employees (NASCOE) 242
Pellerzi, L. M., president, the Federal Trial Examiners Conference-

297
Raffensperger, James W., president, National Society of Federal Engi-
neers, Scientists, and Allied Professionals.-

244
Robbins, Paul H., executive director, National Society of Professional
Engineers, presented by Milton F. Lunch, legislative counsel.

234
Segal, Bernard G. chairman Committee on Judicial Selection, Tenure,
and Compensation, American Bar Association..

298

Silvergleid, David, secretary-treasurer, National Postal Union --

265

Snyder, John P., executive or, National Association of Postmasters

of the United States.

203

Staats, Hon. Elmer B., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget, accom-

panied by Roger
W. Jones, Special Assistant to the Director..

103

Vaughn, William T., legislative representative, National League of Post-

masters of the United States --

206

Walsh, Lawrence E., member, executive committee, New York State Bar

Association.

295

Warfel, George L., president, National Association of Special Delivery

Messengers

191

Warren, Earl, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court...

292
Whitehurst, Élmore, secretary, National Association of Referees in Bank-
ruptcy.

297
STATEMENTS BY ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES

American Bar Association..

298

American Federation of Government Employees.-

174

American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations.. 173

American Federation of Technical Engineers---

174

American Nurses' Association..

256

American Society for Public Administration.-

281

Bureau of the Budget...

108

Civil Service Commission...

1, 81

Federal Professional Association..

224

Federal Trial Examiners Conference

297

Government Employees Council, AFL-CIO-

155

National Association of Agricultural and Conservation Service County

Employees (NASCOE).

242

National Association of ASCS County Office Employees (NASCOE)

240

National Association of Internal Revenue Employees..

250

National Association of Letter Carriers..

155

National Association of Postal Supervisors -

219

National Association of Postmasters of the United States.

203

National Association of Post Office & General Services Maintenance

Employees.-

253

National Association of Post Office Mail Handlers, Watchmen, Messengers,
Group Leaders, Mail Equi ent Handlers & Machine Operators--

181

National Association of Referees in Bankruptcy -

297

National Association of Special Delivery Messengers.

191

National Civil Service League.-

98

National Customs Association..

257

National Federation of Federal Employees.

265

National Federation of Post Office Motor Vehicle Employees, AFL-CIO. 190

National League of Postmasters of the United States..

206

National Postal Union.

261

National Rural Letter Carriers' Association...

122

National Society of Federal Engineers, Scientists, & Allied Professionals.-

243

National Society of Professional Engineers..

234

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New Jersey State Bar Association (resolution).

296
New York State Bar Association.-

296
Organization of Professional Employees of the U.S. Department of Agri-
culture.no

236
Panama Canal Zone Central Labor Union & Metal Trades Council,
AFL-CIO..

153
Post Office Department.

125, 191

Transportation Association of America.

118

United Federation of Postal Clerks..

178

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COMMUNICATIONS

Gordon, Kermit, Director, Bureau of the Budget: Letter, dated February

17, 1964, to Senator Randolph, containing information relating to the

number of employees that might be replaced in 1965 due to use of
computers.
Harding, Bertrand M., Acting Commissioner, Treasury Department:

Letter, dated May 22, 1964, to Senator Johnston, containing income

tax deductions for four different salary levels --
Macy, John W., Jr., Chairman, Civil Service Commission:

Letter, dated May 8, 1964, to Senator Olin D. Johnston, information

requested at the hearing of May 4
Letter, dated May 18, 1964, to Senator Johnston supplementing

information given in May 8 letter..
Udall, Congressman Morris K.: Letter, dated May 25, 1964, to Senator

Johnston, containing a proposed amendment for an automátic increase
in congressional pay--

EXHIBITS

Civil Service Commission charts:

Statutory procedure followed in development of proposed schedules

for Federal pay reform..

Additional gap-Difference between 1961 and 1962 pay lines..

Leftover gap-The difference between schedule II and 1961 pay line.

Closing the gap-The President's proposal...

Upper career pay in 19 large corporations—Positions equivalent to

top general schedule grades----

“Logjam” at $20,000 pending action on executive pay.

Advisory panel recommendations on executive pay-

Data supporting executive pay increase...

Examples of State and local government salaries higher than Federal

career rates.-

Additional improvements in salary administration incorporated in

President's proposal.

Classification Act: Present, schedule II, and proposed salary ranges.

Postal field service: Present, schedule II, and President's proposed

salary ranges.-

Veterans' Administration, medicine and surgery: Present, schedule II,

and President's proposed salary ranges.

Foreign Service: Present, schedule II, and President's proposed salary

ranges--

Costs of schedule II and President's proposal.

Bureau of the Budget charts:

Classification Ăct-Comparison-fourth step rates of current (schedule

II) and proposed (H.R. 11049) salary schedules with comparability

pay lines for 1961, 1962, and 1963-

Postal field schedules—Comparison-fourth step rates of current

(schedule II) and proposed (H.R. 11049) salary schedules with

comparability pay lines for 1961, 1962, and 1963.-

Federal top salary network—Basic and historical salary information

for departments and Members of Congress..

Post Office Department charts:

Examples of effect of H.R. 11049 on pay of postmasters in fourth-class

offices...

Pay of postmasters in fourth-class offices -

Number of employees in postal field service at the close of 1963-

Annual rate and hourly rate employees..

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