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JANUARY 17, 1920.

The above-named man is now located in Denmark, but a letter from his sister states that they expect him back home in a month or so. His sister further states that as soon as her brother returns she will endeavor to have him call at this office regarding his course of training which has been approved under section 2.

L. W. GEORGE.

Conroy, Fred T., 26660, sergeant, Ordnance, Fourth Ammunition Train, 918 Howard Street, Port Huron, Mich.

Offered section 2 training in oxy-acetylene welding, September 9, 1919.
Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:
NORWALK, OHIO, September 26, 1919.

CHAS. W. SYLVESTER,

Vocational Officer.

DEAR SIR: Your letter received in regards to vocational training and I have decided not to do any hard work. I have just started to work for a butter and egg firm, and have light, easy job. I am going to try it, and I think I can do it all right. Thanking you very kindly, I beg to remain,

Respectfully, yours,

FRED T. CONROY.

MARCH 16, 1920.

Dental, Charles, 8-20779, private, Company B, One hundred and twenty-sixth Infantry, Addison, Mich.

Offered section 2 training in general agriculture, August 12, 1919.
Postponed training, as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:
JANUARY 19, 1920.

Your kind letter of a recent date at hand. Will say my present conditions as to health are such as would not conflict to my taking up a vocational course. As to the training that has been approved for me, I have decided not to take, as my plans, which I put in for such a course, did not materialize as expected. In the near future, if I should decide to take up any particular training, will write for information on same. Thanking you for your interest taken in same, I remain,

CHAS. O. DENTAL,

Cornell, Buford H., 6250, private, Company B, One hundred and twenty-third Infantry, Henning, Ill.

Offered section 2 training in agriculture and farm management, December 13, 1919. Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: HENNING, ILL., February 2, 1920.

FEDERAL BOARD FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION,

DEAR SIR: Received yours of the 29th. Must say it is impossible for me to attend the University of Illinois at this time on account of sickness in our home. But I want to thank the board for what they are doing for ex-soldiers. This sure is an opportunity of a lifetime. Thanking you again for your efforts, I remain,

BUFFORD H. CORNELL.

Roscoe, Frederick, 8-6003, private, Company C, Eighteenth Infantry, 1271 Harper Avenue, Detroit, Mich.

Offered section 2 training in tryout in sheet metal May 28, 1919.

Refused training, as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: JULY 7, 1919.

I have been informed of the opportunities offered to me by the Federal board and wish co state I do not wish te consider training at this time. I am working at the Ford Motor Co., earning $1.80 per day and will soon be promoted to $6 per day.

FREDERICK ROSCOE.

Waniata, Edward, 8-1268, private, United States Army, Fifth Company, Second Training Battalion, 159 D. B., 1223 South Spaulding Avenue, Chicago, Ill. Offered section 2 training in tryout in English August 29, 1919.

Refused training, as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: SEPTEMBER 4, 1919.

I received your letter yesterday and I wish to inform you that I was discharged from the hospital at Forty-seventh and Drexel Boulevard August 11, and I am working back at my trade again. Thanking you for your kindness shown to me when I was at your office, I remain,

EDWARD WANIATA.

Sitek, Michael Joseph, 8-12793, private, first class, Company C Three hundred and eleventh Engineers, Eighty-sixth Division, 4205 Lincoln Avenue, Chicago, Ill.: Offered section 2, training in tryout in oxy-acetyline welding, August 18, 1919. Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: JANUARY 15, 1920.

The superior chapter of the Red Cross informs me that you have written them in reference to my vocational training, asking that I write you whether or not I wish to take advantage of same at this time.

I am now employed at one of the local coal docks, learning to run an electrical car-loader. I have promised them that I would stay with them, and feel that I should keep my promise to them, so would not care to take the course in vocational training at this time. I presume that I can do so later on if I should so desire. Kindly advise

me.

Thanking you for your attention to this, I am

Respectfully yours,

MICHAEL J. SITEK.

Duvall, Edgar Eli, 8-6145, seaman second class, Navy, R. F. D. No. 2, Monroe, Mich. :

Offered section 2, training in tryout in general agriculture, emphasizing hog raising, September 8, 1919. Postponed training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: MARCH 1, 1920.

I have no intention of going to school right now, but I may like to go to school next winter. I am undecided at the present time.

E. E. DUVALL.

Callahan, John (14927), private, Company H, One hundred and twenty-ninth Infantry, Grafton, Ill.:

Offered section 2 training in business course, November 20, 1919.
Postponed training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:
GRAFTON, ILL., February 18, 1920.

Mr. CHAS. W. SYLVESTER,

Chicago, Ill.

DEAR SIR: Your letter received and appreciate very much, but it will be impossible for me to start to school for some time, as I have been under the care of a doctor for the past two weeks and he informs me it would not be safe for me to enter a closed school room at present; therefore if the date of starting can be deferred it will be a great favor to me, so if you will kindly advise me in regard to this matter it will be highly appreciated.

Thanking you for past favors, I am, respectfully,

JOHN CALLAHAN.

Sweeney, David J. (18509), private first class, Company I, Thirty-ninth Infantry, Rochelle, Ill.:

Offered section 2 training in general agriculture November 20, 1919.

Postponed training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: ROCHELLE, ILL., December 15, 1919.

Am in receipt of yours of December 2 with regard to my course in general agriculture at the University of Illinois. Owing to my physical condition at the present time I would not be doing justice to myself or to the course, if I should start now. I want to take advantage of this opportunity and if I may postpone the time for beginning this course for some time, I will gladly notify you when I will be ready to take it up.

Very truly, yours,

DAVID J. SWEENEY.

Druckrey, Oscar (15066), corporal, Company F, One hundred and twenty-seventh Infantry, Shawano, Wis.

Offered section 2 training in window trimming and show card writing, December 4, 1919.

Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted.

Mr. CHARLES SYLVESTER,

D. V. O. District No. 8, Chicago, Ill.

SHAWANO, WIs., December 12, 1919.

DEAR SIR: Your letter of the 10th at hand, asking if I intended to take the training in window trimming and show card writing, and if not to let you know what I am doing and what pay I get. I decided that I did not care to take this training as an apprentice in one of the Chicago stores, for it is very inconvenient for me to get away. The manager here also does not want me to go, and think the window training I am now doing is satisfactory. My work is as a clerk and window trimming in a gents clothing store, of 10 hours a day, and am receiving $25 a week.

Very truly, yours,

OSCAR T. DRUCKREY.

Agustink, Walter Frank (10325), private, Company E, One hundred and sixtyeighth Infantry, 811 Riopelle Avenue, Detroit, Mich.

Offered section 2 training in mechanical drawing, July 31, 1919.

Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted.

Mr. CHAS. W. SYLVESTER,

Federal Board for Vocational Education.

DETROIT, MICH., December 16, 1919.

DEAR SIR: Received your letter of December 13, 1919, and wish to inform you that I do not care to take up any training. As I have a good position now, which offers me advancement in the near future. Thanking you for the offer, I remain,

Yours, respectfully,

WALTER F. AGUSTINK,

Verway, Harry (2505), private, M Company, One hundred and Sixtieth Depot Brigade, Camp Custer, 47 Erickson Street, Muskegon, Mich. :

Offered section 2 training in trade tryout, Novemer 19, 1919.

Refused training, as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:

MUSKEGON, MICH., January 21, 1920.

FEDERAL BOARD FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION.

DEAR SIR: Received your letters regarding vocational training; but sorry to say I am not in any condition for this work, as I need all the fresh air I can get, also to have my weight and strength back. As my health is poor since my discharge in the Army, I will notify you when my conditions are better.

Thanking you very much for your kindness, through the disabled soldiers, I remain, Yours, truly,

HARRY VERWAY.

Meaume, Alfred Perry, 8-15323, coxswain, United States Naval Reserve Force, 2022 Eastwood Avenue, Chicago, Ill.:

Offered section 2 training in placement training as cutter and designer, September 12, 1919.

Postponed training as shown by a letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:

R-61954.

From: District vocational officer, district No. 8, Chicago, Ill.
To: Chief Division of Rehabilitation, Washington, D. C.

OCTOBER 6, 1919.

Re: Meaume, Alfred Perry, coxswain, United States Naval Reserve Force, 2022 Eastwood Avenue, Chicago, Ill.

DEAR SIR: This man was notified that approval had been granted for a course of training in cutting and designing men's clothing. His father called upon us in answer to this, stating that his son was working as a cutter for $32 a week, and for this reason he does not want to take advantage of this training unless he finds that he can not carry on at his present job. In that case he will ask for training in some other line of work. Yours, very truly,

CHAS. W. SYLVESTER, Division Vocational Officer, District No. 8.

Miller, Francis Warren (10372), Corporal, Company H, Three hundred and sixtysecond Infantry, 91 Division, R. F. D. 4, Martinsville, Ill.:

Offered section 2, training in animal husbandry, June 24, 1919.

Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted:

FEDERAL BOARD FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION,

Chicago, Ill.

MARSHALL, ILL.,
January 3, 1920.

MY DEAR SIRS: I do not see as I am ready to take your course in animal husbandry for I am married now and have a wife to support and I do not care for that now; how about some automobile school, but I do not see how I could get away. I am going to try and farm next year for myself, so I have to look after things.

Very truly, yours,

FRANCIS W. MILLER.

Dexter, Luther (16895), private, Company K, One hundred and thirtieth Infantry, 324 Fourteenth Street, Cairo, Ill.:

Offered section 2, training in agriculture and elementary education, August 11, 1919. Refused training as shown by his letter in our files, copy of which is submitted: CAIRO, ILL., January 31, 1920.

FEDERAL BOARD FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION.

DEAR SIR: I will write you a few lines in answer to your letter that I received December 27, 1919. I have not yet decided whether I want to take the training or not, when I get ready to take it I will let you know. I have five years to decide on it, so if I get ready to take it during the five years I will let you know.

Yours, truly,

LUTHER DEXTER.

Punkiewicz, Marion, 8-16658, private, Company B, One hundred and twentyeighth Infantry, Thirty-second Division, 1209 Sixth Avenue, Moline, Ill.: Offered section 2, training in English and trade try out, October 28, 1919. After repeated attempts to gain contact with the man, his case was sent to Red Cross, copy of whose report is submitted:

FEBRUARY 27, 1920.

The following report was received from the Moline Home Service Section regarding Mr. Punkiewiez, who is a man who was approved for training, but did not report: We have talked with the above-mentioned man in regard to vocational training, but he seems quite satisfied with his work and does not care to take up any training. Mr. Punkiewicz is employed at the John Deere Plow Works in this city, and has work that is not very heavy and makes good wages.

I. C. TWITCHELL.
F. A. WHITE (SA).

(Thereupon, at 9.45 o'clock p. m., the committee adjourned to meet again at 10 o'clock a. m., Friday, April 30, 1920.)

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION,

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

Friday, April 30, 1920.

The committee met at 10 o'clock a. m., Hon. Horace M. Towner (acting chairman) presiding.

Mr. TOWNER. Mr. Munroe, you may take the stand.

TESTIMONY OF MR. JAMES P. MUNROE, VICE CHAIRMAN BOARD FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION

FEDERAL

Resumed.

Mr. TOWNER. Mr. Munroe, what is your judgment as to the present organization of the Vocational Board? Does it meet with your unreserved approval?

Mr. MUNROE. You mean the general make-up of the board?

Mr. TOWNER. Yes.

Mr. MUNROE. Yes, sir; I think it is an admirable arrangement. Mr. TOWNER. You then approve entirely of the membership on the board of the Cabinet officers?

Mr. MUNROE. Yes, sir; it has been a very useful part of the board organization.

Mr. TOWNER. In what way are they useful?

Mr. MUNROE. Of course the daily work of the board is carried on by the standing committee made up of the three appointed members and the Commissioner of Education, and then at least once a month, and sometimes oftener, the full board meets with the Cabinet officers present, and then all questions of general policy are put up to the whole board and receive the sanction or the dissent, as the case may be, of the Cabinet members.

Mr. TOWNER. They act, very largely, in an advisory capacity?
Mr. MUNROE. Yes, sir.

Mr. TOWNER. Do you say that as often as once a month you have a full meeting of the board?"

Mr. MUNROE. Yes, sir.

Mr. TOWNER. Do the members of the Cabinet seem to take any particular interest in the activities of the board?

Mr. MUNROE. A very great interest. Of course, especially in the war period, they had very many other important duties to attend to, but, personally, I have been surprised that they have been able and have been willing to keep such close touch upon the work of the Fed

eral board as they have.

Mr. TOWNER. Your idea then is that so far as the personnel of the board is concerned, it is an advangtage distinctly to have Cabinet officers members of the board?

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