competition, if it were not for two things; the first is organized labor knocking on the doors of Congress until Congress passed child labor legislation that prevented the minor of the south from taking the bread from the mouths of the men and women of the north. Now you industry, you owe it not to your effort, you owe it to the effort of organized labor urging Congress for that child labor law upon all articles of interstate commerce. Up here in this dear State of ours you are objecting to the passage of this law on the ground that you cannot trade. Cannot trade with whom? With the south. How many of you men have ever lived there and are familiar with the situation? The same sun which lightens and brings to fruition the beautiful cotton in those southern states precludes and prevents their working under the hours of labor necessary to make them effective competitors with the north-man. Your competitors are in New England. As it seems to me the very primary thing in this matter of competition is that of the labor market itself. The thing that the manufacturer takes into consideration is, whether or not there is a ready and available supply of contented labor. Isn't that the first test? Now, I want to know how you expect to keep an efficient and contented class of labor in this land of industry when you find your sister states are according to them privileges which you deny? It seems to me it is basic that you must have a contented condition of labor to have an efficient production therefrom. more Gentlemen, I have taken time than I intended upon this matter, and to summarize I will say right here that as I see things, it is not in revolution that we need have any fear in this country, but it is in "devolution;" the danger is in the ideals of such comfortable, well-off sophists who seek to drive right here and now and create class distinctions. Do not make any misunderstanding of what I say, and let no man mistake my meaning. I would not condone that man or that group of men who would seek by direction or indirection to subvert away our theory of government or the activities of our government. I have too much confidence in the common sense and the conscience of American manhood and womanhood to believe that there is any danger in any such regard. I believe in that industry which will lead to material prosperity. The pure well spring from which those streams flow is private initiative and private property, and I believe that anything which pollutes the spring of private initiative or anything which subverts the theory and the sanctity of private property is subversive to our form of government. I believe there are two pillars which are supporting industry, supporting almost freedom itself. One of them is the protection of private property. I do not believe that here and now at this time or at any other time that the people of Maine are going to subscribe to any smashing of that pillar in the interest of communism, socialism, actual or near. On the other hand, I do not believe that we can forget for a moment that equally important with the protection of private property is the protection of the producers of property, and those producers of property, some of them are women, who are now compelled to work from half past six in the morning until twelve o'clock at noon and from one o'clock P. M. until half past five at night. Now, gentlemen, I think if you want to have a free labor, and if you want to protect that second great pillar, that you can take a step in the right direction in supporting this bill, and then it will seem to me that we have made some progress towards that condition which will produce contented manhood and contented womanhood and from that there will be begotten a happy childhood, and believe that it is only in the light of national contentment that you can ever acquire enduring and real national greatness. (Applause.) Mr. GERRISH of Lisbon: Mr. Speaker and gentlemen of the House: I am much interested in the medical knowledge of the gentleman from Augusta (Mr. Maher). He has certainly gone into this sub He ject very carefully, but there is one Mr. McILHERON of Lewiston: Mr. Speaker, I am delighted and pleased to listen to the eloquence that this bill deserves. I can give you a little of my experience. When I was seven years old I was left The SPEAKER: The gentleman will suspend for a moment. The House will be in order or will be cleared. The remarks are not for the entertainment or the provocation of laughter, nor for the causes of comment on the part of any gentleman except the speaker and the speaker at the present time is the gentleman from Lewiston, Mr. McIlheron, and he will be heard. Proceed. accom want to tell you, gentlemen, representing the Democratic party from one of the largest industrial centers in the State, recognized and known throughout the country as the industrial heart of Maine,-I want to tell you that I came here representing that party that is pledged also to that measure-pledged to give its support; and when a man accepts what a party pledges, he should represent that party, or he should have manhood enough to say, "I will in resign; send somebody else my place because I cannot honestly represent the people who have sent me here. They have sent me here for one purpose, my conscience dictates another. I will resign. Let the people send a proper representative to the Legislature so their wishes may be thoroughly expressed and honestly expressed, not camouflaged." Gentlemen, what we want in this State of Maine, and in this country, more than money is manhood. I admire manhood, and I love womanhood in all its purity, in all its sanctity. The love of a woman is as sweet as the fragrance of a rose in its purity, as God intended it should be. It is not a question of work, but it is a question of how to live. I do stand here to say aught against any of the manufacturing industries in my city. If I had to come here to talk about the industries of my city, gentlemen, I should go back to the people and I would tell them that I could not represent them as they wanted me to represent them. I want to see industry couraged: I want to see labor encouraged. I want to see these things go hand in hand and in harmony,-just as much harmony as the United States of America. I do not want to see them separated or divided as this House is, and I want to give you warning that a House divided against itself must fall. Take that as a warning. I have seen men withering away in fear and expectation of what? Not because of a man,-no, never! It was because they shrank down to something else that I could not class as a man. Stand and be counted, and do not shrink away. The very consciences of men will condemn them. Mr. McILHERON resuming: I was left fatherless with a mother having three boys to support, and she had to resort to a linen mill, the Bessbrook Spinning Mill in Ireland; and there is where I first panied the lone woman that was in this not House at spoken of here previous sessions, and I worked with that lone woman one day in the mill, and she prepared my food and cared for me after her hours in the mill so that I could go to school the next day, and another boy alternated with me. The system was called there "half time." We were only living half time, and I thank God that I have seen the time when she could loaf or keep her home and enjoy herself while I worked full time. There is a wonderful sentiment that should be brought to the surface of matters and things and we are looking at everything in a material way. We have had a most wonderful evidence of the shortness of this life during this Legislature. I presume there never has been a Governor, elected to the State of Maine who has taught there a more salutary lesson than has been taught here. He told us that the party that he represented was pledged to the 48-hour law. I en You can look a man in the face and tell what he is. We are all created in the image and likeness of our Creator and told to love one another. That is the doctrine that will settle all questions. Do justice to your fellowman. Be fair with your fellowman wherever he lives or under whatever circumstances you meet him, so that you may be able to say when you have completed your work here "Before me and my God I have been fair with my fellowman, and I have done him justice." Then you will have completed wonderful and sensible, protective legislation that the people will be satisfied with. The trouble is with this country today that we are financially intoxicated, and the State of Maine is no exception. The State of Maine, while it seems to be a very temperate State, still it is intoxicated financially, and people can see nothing but the gain, the money. The happiness of the people is what we want here in America. We boast about being the richest country in the world. I am glad we are, if that richness will produce happiness. Are we the richest country in the world in our hearts? There is where you find the riches. The home is where the heart is. Now, gentlemen, I am glad, as I said, to hear the eloquence that has been afforded us on this question, and I offer these few words as coming from my heart, and I hope that the people of the State of Maine will find in the expression of this Legislature on this bill, justice and fairness to the industries as well as to the laboring people. I thank you. The question was called for by Mr. O'Connell of Millinocket. The Speaker: The gentleman from Millinocket, Mr. O'Connell, calls for the question. Shall the main question now be put. All those in favor of putting the main question at this time will say aye, contrary minded, no. A viva voce vote being taken, the main question was ordered. Mr. O'Connell of Millinocket then asked for a yea and nay vote. The SPEAKER: All those who are in favor of the vote being taken by the roll call will rise and stand until they are counted, and the monitors will return the count. A sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays were ordered. The SPEAKER: The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Augusta, Mr. Maher. Mr. MAHER: I yield to the gentleman from Skowhegan, Mr. Smith. Mr. SMITH: Mr. Speaker, I believe in fair play, and I am wondering if there is not some way by which Mr. Carroll can speak on this subject, inasmuch as he represents the opposition. May we not have a reconsideration? I do not know the tactics. The SPEAKER: The Chair will reply to the gentleman from Skowhegan, (Mr. Smith) that the Chair gives absolute assent to everything that the gentleman from Skowhegan has suggested except the expression of fair play. The Chair proceeded absolutely according to parliamentary rules. A motion at this time will certainly be entertained and put to vote that the rules be suspended and the gentleman from Norway (Mr. Carroll) be heard. Mr. McILHERON of Lewiston: I move, Mr. Speaker, that the rules be suspended and the gentleman from Norway, Mr. Carroll, be heard. The SPEAKER: The rules are suspended and the gentleman may be heard if he cares to speak. The gentleman from Norway (Mr. Carroll) has the floor. Mr. MAHER: Mr. Speaker, The SPEAKER: The gentleman from Augusta (Mr. Maher) is out of order. Mr. MAHER: May I speak to the motion, Mr. Speaker? The SPEAKER: The Chair has ruled. Mr. MAHER: I rise to a point of order. The SPEAKER: The gentleman may state his point of order. Mr. MAHER: A simple statement of the rule that a man may speak five minutes before the main question is put, and then yielding, which I intended to do, to the gentleman all my five minutes, might encompass the difficulty. re The SPEAKER: As the Chair calls the procedure, the House has voted to extend the courtesy of the House to the gentleman from Norway, Mr. Carroll, and he has the floor. Mr. CARROLL of Norway: Mr. Speaker and gentlemen of the House: I regret very much that this proceeding was necessary, and I am sorry that I did not get the Speaker's attention. I was on my feet before the motion was put. To show my appreciation of the courtesy, I will say to you that I will talk but a very few minutes. I will also further say that there is no man in fuller accord with the gentlemen, Mr. Smith, Mr. Maher and Dr. Gerrish, and the other gentlemen, advocating the 48-hour law in the State of Maine than myself. I am fully in accord with it in every way; but I do not believe that it is a matter for the State of Maine, with a population of from 750,000 to 760,000 people, down here at the northeastern limit of transportation in the United States,-I do not believe it is a matter for us to legislate. It is a matter for Federal legislation to set the hours of labor for every state in the Union and let Maine have a fair chance in competition. Now in the chaotic condition that this country is in, I think the most unwise thing that the State of Maine could do at this time is to pass a 48-hour law. am in accord with everything that benefits the working man and the working woman. I have spent many hours helping some of my good friends draft the compensation bill that would smooth out some of the inequalities and give the working man the best we could give him for the money. Now I want to do that same thing with labor in the State of Maine. This bill has been before many Legislatures. Two states in New England,-the one across the line -New Hampshire-turned it down almost to a man this winter, and Connecticut did the same. They felt it unwise to legislate at this time-a state so far removed from the center of distribution and also from the centers of supply. I We have listened today to good argument and wonderful eloquence. 1 wish I had the ability, but I can only state these facts. I have telegrams here from industries contemplating locating in Maine. They say that with the 48-hour law that New Hampshire has all the advantages we have and they would prefer to go there at this time where they have a 54-hour law. Now I believe that we are advancing, but as I said before, Maine with its small population and its location should not set the pace for the United States. I believe that industry should have a chance, and when industry has its chance, industry is giving labor its chance. Without the industry, you have no place for your women and children or your men, Now give these working people the opportunity of working and getting their living, and do not drive industry out of the State of Maine at this time. Do not do things to handicap it until this country has gotten itself readjusted to the afterthe-war basis. Mr. Speaker, I thank you and the gentlemen of the House. (Applause.) Mr. BRAGDON of Perham: Mr. Speaker, is this matter debatable under the five-minute rule? The SPEAKER: The Chair has no present recollection of any such rule. If there is such, call its attention to it. Mr. BRAGDON: My impression was that it had been used before. The SPEAKER: It appears to the Chair that the question now is upon the adoption by yea and nay vote of the minority report, ought not to pass, the motion having been made yesterday by the gentleman from Waterboro, Mr. Smith. If the Chair is incorrect, it will thank any member for setting it right. The main question has been called for by the House. A yea vote is in favor of the minority report, ought not to pass. A nay vote is against the acceptance of the minority report, and leaves for further consideration the majority report. The Clerk will call the roll. Mr. COLE of Eliot: Mr. Speaker, I am paired with Representative Willard of Sanford, who desires to be record ed that he would vote yes if he were present, and I will vote no. Mr. TOWNE of Madison: Mr. Speaker, I am paired with Representative Wilson of Presque Isle, who desires to be recorded that he would vote no if he were present, and I will vote yes. YEA-Adams, Atherton, Audibert, Baker, Bean, Blanchard, Boothby, Bragdon of Perham, Bragdon of Westbrook, Bragdon of Franklin, Brewster of Orland, Carroll, Carney, Case, Chadbourne, Chalmers, Chandler, Chase, Cherry, Cordwell, Conant, Crabtree, Crafts, Cram, Croxford, Dain, Davis, Dodge, Downing, Downs, Dunning, Eastman, Elmore, Emery, Farnsworth, Forbes, Gardiner, Granville, Hammond, Hayes, Heal, Hinckley, Hodgkins, Houghton, Hussey, Kimball, Landers, Leighton, Lowe, Main, Mason, McGlauflin, Myrick, Newcomb of Scarboro, Newcomb of Newburg, Nickerson, Patterson, Peabody, Peaslee, Phillips of Orrington, Phillips of Bar Harbor, Plummer, Ricker, Roberts of Vinalhaven, Roberts of Lyman, Rounds, Savage. Sawyer, Small, Smith of Waterboro, Smith of Ludlow, Snipe, Spear of Limestone, Story, Teague, Tilden, Thomas of Chesterville, Thomas of South Portland, Trefethen, Twombly, Varney of Jonesboro, Varney of Windham, Weatherbee, Weeks of Dresden, Wentworth, Wight, Williams, Wing, Witham--89. NAY-Austin, Barney, Bartlett, Barwise, Belliveau, Bennett, Brewster of Portland, Brown, Buzzell, Chamberlain, Clarke, Daigle, Doyle, Fagan, Finnell, Gagne, Gerrish, Gipson, Harriman, Holley, Hunton, Kerswell, Larrabee, Luques, Maher, Masse, Maxwell, McIlheron, Moody, Morneau, Murchie, Murray, Nadeau, O'Connell, Owen, Pennell, Perkins, Poore, Reed, Rogers of Rockland, Smith of Skowhegan, Spear of Rockport, Viles, Wadsworth, Warren, Weeks of Fairfield, Winter, Wiseman, Wood, Woodruff-50. ABSENT-Belmore, Burns, Jordan, Oram, Porter, Rogers of Jonesport, Washburn-7. PAIRED Cole of Eliot (no) and Willard of Sanford (yes); Towne of Madison (yes) and Wilson of Presque Isle (no). Mr. GRANVILLE of Parsonsfield: Mr. Speaker, I inadvertently voted no, and I wish to change my vote to yes. Mr. BRAGDON of Perham: Like the gentleman from Parsonsfield (Mr. Granville) I was not giving due attention when the motion was put to the House, and I now desire to change my vote from no to yes. Mr. BAKER of Steuben: I wish to change my vote from the negative to the affirmative. Eighty-nine having voted in the affirmative and 50 in the negative, the House adopted the minority report, ought not to pass. On motion by Mr. Buzzell of Belfast, the House recessed until two P. M. AFTER RECESS The SPEAKER: The Chair presents out of order papers from the Senate. Papers from the Senate disposed of in concurrence. From the Senate: Final reports of the Committee on Banks and Banking and Taxation. Comes from the Senate reports read and accepted. In the House, reports read and accepted in concurrence. Senate Bills in First Reading Resolve to reimburse L. Ernest Thornton, Secretary of the Senate, for expenses incurred in connection with the lecture of William F. Dawson. (On motion by Mr. Wadsworth of Winthrop, the rules were suspended, and the resolve given its two several readings and passed to be engrossed in concurrence.) Resolve to reimburse the members of the Special Committee charged with the duty of investigating the desirability of enacting the Act introduced at the 79th Legislature, entitled "An Act to establish the State University of Maine, and to provide for its maintenance." (On motion by Mr. Houghton of Fort Fairfield, the rules were suspended, the resolve given its two several readings and passed to be engrossed in concurrence.) Resolve in favor of Faith A. Tryon for services as stenographer to the Committee on Re-districting the State. (On motion by Mr. Brewster of Portland, the rules were suspended, |