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gan, after his wonted manner here in England, to cry out, in the open congregation, against the minister, calling him conjurer, lyar, impostor, deceiver; and the elders and people being astonished at the noveliy, and reputing him a madman, came and told him, 'That they had laws in France to protect the congregations, either of papists or protestants, from any disturbance; and thrust him forth of their church.
Upon which, he went into the church yard, and, upon a stone, continued his discourse, which drew the whole congregation out of the church, after him, and caused the minister to give over; and the elders, coming again to him, told him, that, he being a stranger, they were willing to favour him; but, seeing he did continue his disturbance, they would commit him to justice; he told them, justice was never in that place until his appearance.
Upon that, they took him away to the governor; where, being brought, with his hat on, he asked the governor what he was; who told him, he was the governor of that place under the King of France. He - said, that he would not answer him as governor, his government being carnal. And a certain bishop being with the governor, who was a papist,de. siring that he might question him and demanding what he was, he told him, he was an Englishman,and sent of the Lord to prepare his way. Hedemanded of the bishop what he was ; who told him, he was a bishop; whereupon he replied, that against bim he was sent, who was one of the locusts that was sent forth of the bottomless pit; and that the weapons he had with bim were fitted to destroy him and the whole kingilom of Antichrist, who was held in darkness and blindness; and that hm was to pour out vials of the Father's wrath upon him. The governor of Bourdeaux, perceiving several of the people to be infected with his doctrine, demanded if there was any ship ready to sail for England; which being informed of, he therein shipped him, being not willing to use extremity to a stranger, but caused some six or seven, who had been infected with his ductrine, to be whipped through the streets.
A relation concerning some others of the same tribe. SEVEN or eight others went over in a vessel to New-England, where, being arrived, they began to spread themselves; but the governor, having notice, caused them to be clapped up close in a castle, and would not suffer any one to come to see them under penalty of tive pounds. In the mean time, he sent for the master of the ship that brought them, and commanded him immediately to carry them back into old England, which, he refusing, was also clapped up close prisoner, until he consented, and took them a-board again.
Now, reader, I shall close up all with a word or two of his life and actions.
JAMES NAYLER is a man of so erroneous and unsanctified a disposition, that it is hard to say, whether heresy or inpudency bcareth the greater rule in him; as will appear.
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First, In what he tesuifieth before sufficient witnesses; see the 'Brief reJation of the Northern Quakers,' page 22, 'That he was as holy, just, and good, as God himself. And,
Secondly, That he, in a letter to one in Lancaster, expresly saith, That, he that expected to be saved by Jesus Christ that died at Jerusa. lem, shall be deceived See Mr. Billingsly's Defence of the Scriptures, page 16. The perfect Pharisee, page 8. And so said another of that sect: He was not such a fool, as to hope to be saved by Jesus Christ that died at Jerusalem sixteen-hundred years ago. See Mr. Farmer's Mystery of Godliness and Ungodliness. Thus they glory in their ignorance, and count that foolishness which is the true wisdoin.
Thirdly, in a liter I bad in my possession, but now lent to a friend, subscribed by the pastor, and other members of that congregation in the north, " hereof Nayler once was a member, till, for his apostasy, he was excommunicated, it is offered to be proved, and by them testified to be true, that one Mrs. Roper, her husband being gone on some occasion from her, a long voyagc, this Nayler frequented her company, and was seen to dandle her upon his knee, and kiss her lasciviously; and, in that time of his society with her, she was brought to bed of a child, when her husband had been absent seven and forty weeks, to a day, from her; and, on a time, he was seen to dance her in a private room; and, having kissed her very often, she took occasion to say, Now, James, what would the world say if they should see us in this posture? To which he said somewhat, but he was so low, that it could not be heard. This was objected against him, but he denied to answer it before the said church; objecting, That he would not speak to them, tbat spoke not immediately by the spirit.
Fourthly; In that, when I had discourse with him concerning pèr. fect perfection, at the Buli and Mouth, he said, I was a lyar to say be owned it; then I proved it from his own writings, as that he said, they that
say they have faiih, and their life is not the life of Christ, and them that say they have faith, and yet they cannot be saved from their sins but in part in this world, them and their taith I deny, &c. To which he hypocritically said, that I was a lyar to say that he owned it in himself, though he disowned it in others. And, when I had objected any thing against what he said, he would deny it as soon as he had spoke it; which, lo convince the people of his lying deceits, 1 desired them that stood by me, to remember that he said, All that are in the world are of the world, in direct opposition to that saying of Christ,John xvii. 'I pray not, boly Father, that thou shouldest take them out of the world, bat preserve them from the evil of the world'; which I presently accused him with, for which he called me lyar; for he said, he said not so. I then desired them that heard him to testify to the truth, against the lyar and his deceit, which they did; but his scared impudence was such, that he said, should a thousand say so, they were all lyars; with much more to the like effect.
For his character.
HE is a man of a ruddy complexion, brown hair, and slank, hanging a little below his jaw-bones; of an indifferent height; not very long vi
saged, nor very round; close shaven; a sad down look, and melancholy countenance; a little band, close to his collar, with no band strings; his hat hanging over his brows; his nose neither high nor low, but rising a little in the middle.
Something concerning some others of them also. DISBOROUGH, not much inferior to Nayler himself, attempting to lie with one Rebeccah (who was first seduced to be, and then was of their heresy) she asked him, what his wise would say if she shoulil know what he attempted? Disborough replied, that he gave her the same liberty that he wook himself (that was, to be a whore, as he was a whoremaster) but, in short, he having obtained his desire of her, she asked him, how if she should prove with child? He answered, she must be content to be numbered with the transgressors, and to make her grave with the wicked (so that he followed not that light which is pure, but sinned against knowledge) as she, the said Rebeccah, as bewailing her sin, confessed unto one Mr. White, a Lincolnshire gentleman, to whoin she added, that Nayler attempted to defile her also; so that, instead of perfect saints, they are rather perfect sophisters.
This relation under the said gentleinan's hand, and the aforementioned letter from the church, whereof Nayler was once a member, were ofo fered to be proved and made good, in the publick meeting at the Bull and Mouth, to Nayler's face, more than once or twice, who was unable to say aught unto it, but left his standing, and sat down silent. They, that offered it so to publick trial, were, one Mr. Persivall, and Mr. John Deacon, author of the publick discovery of their secret deceit.
Some of their opinions are these: 1. THEY deny the scriptures are the word of God. 2. They esteem their own speakings to be of as great authority. 3. They hold it unlawful to expound or interpret the Scriptures.
4. They say, that he, that preaches by a text of Scripture, is a conjurer.
5. That the holy letter is carnal.'
A friend of mine being desirous to be resolved of a doubt; as, whetherthat which was reported, of that heretical seçt, were more than they erred in, or less than they erroneously maintained contrary to the truth? He went unto their meeting, within Aldersgate, where he had no sooner entered that synagogue of Satan, but the then speaker (namen
ly, George Fox) cried out, but on what occasion, he knoweth not,‘Quakers, Quakers, earth is above God,' in the open house, before hundreds then present. At wbich, my friend wondered, and pressing forwards a little into the multitude, he saw some disputing upon the same words; who demanding what was the matter, one answered, that George Fox said, 'earth is above God’; and here is one saith,that whatsoever George Fux should do or say, he would maintain (pointing to a young man then standing by) to whom, my friend replied, he had undertaken a harder task, than he was able to perform: For God was the Creator of the earth, and all things else; and therefore above the earth, and not the earth above him, that created it; forasmuch as the workman is above his work: For, although an artificer shall by art compose any thing, that is never so excellent, yet it can claim no equality with the maker, in regard that what is excellent in it, is the Maker's excellency, and not its own : for, destroy the work, and the workman can make the like; but destroy the workinan with the work, and both perish. To which he replied, he did not mean the earth under our feet, but earthly sin in man." To which my friend replied, that now his blasphemy was worse than it was befor!; for take the earth simply in itself, it hath no prejudice towards God; but sin is that, which seeks God's destruction, and therefore he was not to be conversed with, being of so diabolical an opinion.
One Stephens of London, being on a time at their meetings, with an intent to oppose what he should there hear, not agreeing with truth, which, at his first coming, he did for a short time, till one of them, taking him by the hand, and rubbing his wrist very hard ; which put him to very sore pain, and so altered his resolution, that he was so transformed by their inchantments, that he since confessed, that, should any one whatsoever have dared to oppose or resist them, as he just before did, he would have stabbed them to the heart, whatsoever had come of it.
There is one Stephens (and it is supposed, the same) a Quaker, that now lieth stark mad, and hath so been a pretty while, through the dise turbances of that spirit, which ruleth in the old Quakers.
A CASE OF CONSCIENCE,
Whether it be lawful to admit Jews into a christian commonwealth!
Resolved by Mr. John Dury: written to Samuel Hartlib, esq. Loudon, printed for Richard Wodeuothe, in Leadenhall-street, Dext to the
Golden Heart, 1656. Quarto, containing twelve pages. I FIND it the practice of most of the protestant commonwealths bere
in Germany, to admit of the Jews, but they do it with a huge mark of distinction between them and others; by which means they are made
vile and contemptible. In the Cantons of Switzerland they are not admitted, no not so much as to travel through the country, or to come into a town or city without leave, and paying a certain duty, or to stay in a city over night; which is said to befall unto them, by reason of some heinous conspiracy (to do a mischief to the country, where they had liberty to live attempted by them. I know none of the reformed churches or divines, who make their admission to be unlawful; but it is a work which the civil magistrate takes wholly into his own consideration, to do, or not to do therein, what he finds expedient for the advantage of the state ; nor do I remember to have read or heard that the case hath ever been put to any of the churches, to be scanned as a matter of conscience.
There is one of the chief reformed divines, Doctor Alteng, who, in his Problematical Theology, Part II. Problem 21. puts this question: Utrum Judæi in Societate Christianorum tolerandi sint? And be doth answer it affirmatively, and I ain clearly of his opinion, that it is not only lawful, but, if matters be rightly ordered towards them, expedient to admit of them; nay, to invite and encourage them to live in reformed christian commonwealths. How far it may be a sin to refuse them admittance, when they do desire it, upon lawful terms, and in a reasonble way, is a further question, which cannot be decided, till the former points of the lawfulness and expediency of admitting of them be made out.
The apostle makes a large difference between things lawful and expedient to be done, 1 Cor. x. from verse 23, till the end of the chapter. Things are said to be lawful, which, being looked upon in themselves, are not repugnant to any law of God, or of nature; and consequently left free to be done, if there be some cause found inducing thereunto; or not to be done, if there be causes found to be contrary; in which respect things lawful are counted indifferent, that is, by themselves, not putting any obligation upon the conscience, to determine it either for doing or not doing, but leaving it at liberty to be determined by the concurrence of other circumstances, which make the doing or not doing of the thing good or bad, as cloathed with such and such qualities concomitant or consequent. An example of concomitant circumstances, making an action, in itself lawful, rot to be expedient at a cer. tain time, is given by the apostle, 1 Cor. x. 27, 28, 29. An example of a thing, though lawful, yet not expedient, by reason of a consequent circumstance, is given, 1 Cor. vi. 12, 13. And another of the same kind, touching the receiving of wages, for doing the work of the mi. nistry, 1 Cor. ix. 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Which the apostle shews was not expedient for him to receive, though it was commanded by God to be given.
By this notion of lawful and expedient actions, we must look upon the admitting of the Jews, if the question be in respect of lawfulness, without any limitation to be answered affirmatively; for taking Jews as they are, that is, men of a strange nation, who are banished from the country of their inheritance, and made pilgrims and wanderers through the world; a people in misery and distress, and so an object of hospita