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HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION fu Sv.

OF THE "seara.COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTIETH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

ON
H.R. 1772, H. R. 1886, H.R. 1977, H.R. 2583,

H. R. 2873, and H. R. 2874
BILLS TO AMEND THE RECLAMATION

PROJECT ACT OF 1939

MARCH 17, 1947, TO APRIL 28, 1947

Printed for the use of the Committee on Public Lands

Committee Hearing No. 4

UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1947

99687

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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS .

RICHARD J. WELCH, California, Chairman FRED L. CRAWFORD, Michigan

ANDREW L. SOMERS, New York KARL M. LECOMPTE, Iowa

J. HARDIN PETERSON, Florida ROBERT F. ROCKWELL, Colorado

C. JASPER BELL, Missouri WILLIAM LEMKE, North Dakota

JOHN R, MURDOCK, Arizona FRANK A. BARRETT, Wyoming

ANTONIO M. FERNANDEZ, New Mexico DEAN P. TAYLOR, New York

CLAIR ENGLE, California JAY LEFEVRE, New York

E. H, HEDRICK, West Virginia A. L. MILLER, Nebraska

PRESTON E. PEDEN, Oklahoma WESLEY A, D'EWART, Montana

MONROE M. REDDEN, North Carolina NORRIS POULSON, California

JOHN A. CARROLL, Colorado
CHARLES H. RUSSELL, Nevada
JOHN SANBORN, Idaho

E. L. BARTLETT, Alaska
EDWARD H. JENISON, Illinois

ANTONIO FERNÓS-ISERN, Puerto Rico WILLIAM A. DAWSON, Utah

J. R. FARRINGTON, Hawaii

ERNEST A. GRANT, Clerk

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

ROBERT F. ROCKWELL, Colorado, Chairman FRED L. CRAWFORD, Michigan

JOHN R. MURDOCK, Arizona WILLIAM LEMKE, North Dakota

ANTONIO M. FERNANDEZ, New Mexico A. L. MILLER, Nebraska

PRESTON E. PEDEN, Oklahoma FRANK A. BARRETT, Wyoming

MONROE M. REDDEN, North Carolina WESLEY A. D'EWART, Montana

JOHN A. CARROLL, Colorado
NORRIS POULSON, California

J. HARDIN PETERSON, Florida
JOHN SANBORN, Idaho
WILLIAM A. DAWSON, Utah

ANTONIO FERNÓS-ISERN, Puerto Rico

J. R. FARRINGTON, Hawaii

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CONTENTS

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Hon. Robert F. Jones, a Representative in Congress from the State

of Ohio.----

Hon. Robert F. Rockwell, a Representative in Congress from the

State of Colorado.--.

Hon. William Lemke, a Representative in Congress from the State of

North Dakota.---

Michael W. Straus, Commissioner, Bureau of Reclamation, accom-

panied by William E. Warne, Assistant Commissioner, Bureau of

Reclamation ----

------- 35, 483, 701

Charles F. Brannan, Assistant Secretary of Agriculture, Depart-

ment of Agriculture, Washington, D. C.--

70

----------------------

Robert W. Sawyer, president and Oregon director, National Reclama-

tion Association, Bend, Oreg ----

------- 99, 118, 123, 627, 646

William W. Warne, Assistant Commissioner, Bureau of Reclamation,

Department of the Interior, Washington, D. C.----

114,

122, 159, 440, 463, 645, 664

Ronald B. Harris, attorney at law, Harris, Willey & Harris, Fresno,

Calif...

------- 125, 129, 562

Edson Abel, assistant director, public utilities department, Cali-

fornia Farm Bureau Federation, California ------------- 141, 170, 552

Hon. Homer D. Angell, a Representative in Congress from the State

of Oregon.-------

----177, 215

F. 0. Hagie, executive vice president, Chamber of Commerce, Seattle,

W ash.------------------------ --------------------------

180

Hon. Fred Norman, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington.----

205

Royce J. Tipton, consulting engineer, Denver, Colo.------------- 219, 260

Don McBride, secretary-manager of the National Reclamation Asso-

ciation, Washington, D. C.-----

--- 283, 589

C. E. Cone, executive secretary, Columbia Basin Commission, State

of Washington.--.

309

Hon. Walt Horan, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington.--------------------

wan

315

J. M. Dille, secretary manager, Northern Colorado Water Conservancy

newan

District-------

333

Clifford H. Stone, director, Colorado Water Conservation Board, and

Colorado director of National Reclamation Association.----------

356, 420, 647, 669, 675

Hon. Henry M. Jackson, a Representative in Congress from the State

of Washington...

353

Clyde T. Ellis, executive manager, National Rural Electric Coopera-

tive Association...

--- 381

Gilmore Tillman, chief assistant city attorney for water and power,

the city of Los Angeles, Calif....

400

Frank Banks, district manager, Grand Coulee Dam, Bureau of Recla-

mation.------

409

Hon. J. A. Krug, Secretary of the Interior

496

Earl Cole, commissioner, Cowlitz public utility district, Cowlitz,

Wash...

527

J. F. Sanders, legislative counsel, the National Grange...

538

Harrie D. Bohlke, director of industrial relations, industrial commis-

sion, city of Seattle, Wash -----

545

Edgar Wright, master, Washington State Grange, Seattle, Wash..-- 546

Carl C. Moore, director of Northwest Public Power Association ---- 588

E. W. Rising, representing the Idaho State Reclamation Association.-

Northcuth Ely, attorney at law, American Security Building, Washing-
ton, D. C.

--- 615, 621, 708

E. R. Fosdick, Assistant Director, Power Utilization, Bureau of

Reclamation.--

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TO AMEND THE RECLAMATION PROJECT ACT OF 1939

MONDAY, MARCH 17, 1947

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION
OF THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS,

Washington, D.C.
The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10 a. m., in the com-
mittee room of the House Committee on Public Lands, the Honorable
Robert F. Rockwell (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
Mr. RockWELL. The committee will please come to order.

Gentlemen of the committee, we have, after some little discussion, got this week set aside for the consideration of our reclamation bills.

As those of you remember who were on this committee last year, the bill on the amendment to the fundamental reclamation law was discussed for one or two years and we never did get it out of the committee. This week we are going to try the Herculean task of agreeing on some bill that can be reported out to the House.

Now, we have three bills that I should like to have this committee consider. One of them is by Congressman Jones, who is chairman of the Interior Appropriations Subcommittee, and a man we should have a great deal of consideration for. I believe his bill does not tie in to the bills that Mr. Lemke and I have introduced, and therefore I think this morning it would be wise to take up H. R. 1772, Mr. Jones' bill, and see if we can dispose of that.

The bill, H. R. 1772, is to provide for the flow of revenues from Federal reclamation projects into miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury and to provide that revenues from Federal reclamation projects hereafter financed wholly from general funds of the Treasury shall be covered into miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury.

The bill will be inserted in the record at this point. (The bill is as follows:)

[H. R. 1772, 80th Cong., 1st sess.) A BILL To provide for the flow of revenues from Federal reclamation projects into

miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury and to provide that revenues from Federal reclamation projects hereafter financed wholly from general funds of the Treasury shall be covered into miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Act of May 9, 1938 (52 Stat. 291), is hereby amended by striking out the first proviso in the provision of such Act relating to the disposition of moneys received by the United States in connection with any irrigation projects, including the incidental power features thereof, constructed by the Secretary of the Interior through the Bureau of Reclamation, and inserting in lieu thereof the following: "Provided, That, after the close of each fiscal year, there shall be covered into the General Treasury as 'miscellaneous receipts' that proportion of the net revenues not required to meet contractural

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