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Purchases of furniture by company, number of items purchased, and total money spent

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1 Cost of files varies in accordance with whether they are equipped with lock, or if they are 2- or 4-drawer, or if letter or legal size.

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Desks: Cottonsmith Desk Co., North Carolina; Rishell Desk Co., Pennsylvania; Indiana Desk Co., Indiana.

Files, Pennsylvania. Files: Yawman & Erbe Manufacturing, New York; Peerless Files, Pennsylvania; Metalstand Files, Pennsylvania; Haskell

Tables: Same source as desks.

Desks: Jasper Desk Co., Indiana; Stow-Davis Desk Co., Michigan.

Files: Colesteel Equipment, New York; Steelcase, Inc., Michigan.
Tables: Same sources as desks.

Files: Own manufacturing company in New York.
Chairs: W. H. Gunlock Chair Co., Wayland, N.Y.
Files: Shaw-Walker Co., Michigan.

Chairs: Shearman Bros. Manufacturing Co., New York.

All furniture is contracted throughout the country.

Files: Art-Steel, Inc., New York; Ccle Steel, New York.

Desks: Standard Desk Co., New York; Indiana Desk Co., Indiana.

Chairs: Milwaukee Chair Co., Wisconsin; Bright Chair Co., New York; Taylor Chair Co., Ohio.

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Mr. HORAN. You had nothing to do with the purchase of the furniture, for example, for the east front?

Mr. ROBERTS. No. That was included in the contract.

PACKING BOXES

Mr. HORAN. The trunks cost $9,800. How many does that cover. 435?

Mr. ROBERTS. A few extras, about 455, I think.

Mr. HORAN. What do you pay per trunk now?

Mr. ROBERTS. $21.57.

Mr. HORAN. Is that not high?

Mr. ROBERTS. No. Last time we had bids the next lowest bid was $50.

Mr. HORAN. I have seen some advertised at $7.89.

Mr. ROBERTS. These are built according to strict specifications. Mr. MEGILL. Did you ever read the specifications, Mr. Horan? We could supply them. They are very rigid and the trunks are made according to specifications.

Mr. HORAN. There is quite a contingent in the Congress that would like to eliminate that item as unnecessary. I personally favor at least that they be supplied on request of the Members.

Mr. MEGILL. I do not believe you were here when I read the law. It has been since 1901 (2 U.S.C. 100).

WALL CALENDARS

Mr. HORAN. How much do the calendars cost?

Mr. ROBERTS. The House calendars?

Mr. HORAN. Yes.

Mr. ROBERTS. They cost about 50 cents apiece.
Mr. HORAN. Where is the item that covers that?
Mr. ROBERTS. The Printing and Binding fund.
Mr. MEGILL. It is a Government Printing Office item.
Mr. HORAN. How many are supplied to Congress?
Mr. ROBERTS. All of them.

Mr. HORAN. How many is that? Mr. ROBERTS. 45,000 last year. p. 305.]

[NOTE.-See figure of 51,469 on

Mr. HORAN. I just wanted to get that for the record, Mr. Chairman. These all come up for discussions here and there.

Mr. STEED. Mr. Langen.

Mr. LANGEN. Are we coming to this printing and binding item? Mr. STEED. We did yesterday. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

MAPS

Mr. LANGEN. Among the other things I understand are supplied to the Members are maps.

Mr. ROBERTS. I do not supply any maps.

Mr. LANGEN. Where do they come from?

Mr. ROBERTS. I do not know where they come from.

Mr. STEED. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. LANGEN. How about such books as the Infant Care books? Mr. ROBERTS. They come from the Department of Agriculture. I am informed they come from the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare now. They used to come from the Department of Agriculture a long time ago.

REPAIR OF RUGS

Mr. LANGEN. I notice an item for the repair of rugs. Are these the ones in the rooms such as this?

Mr. ROBERTS. That is right.

Mr. LANGEN. There is a relationship to the congressional offices? Mr. ROBERTS. Yes. They are all covered under this item.

Mr. MEGILL. The two office buildings, the George Washington Inn Offices, the House wing of the Capitol, and when the new House Office Building is completed it will cover that too.

Mr. LANGEN. There are rugs only in one office building, are there not?

Mr. MEGILL. In the Old House Office Building, and the committee rooms of the Longworth Building.

Mr. ROBERTS. There are not supposed to be any in the New House Office Building unless the Members supply them themselves. Mr. MEGILL. Except in committee rooms.

Mr. LANGEN. What about the new Rayburn Building?

Mr. STEED. We will get into that when the Architect comes up.

FURNITURE FOR RAYBURN BUILDING

Mr. LANGEN. Let me ask one question in regard to furniture. In the new Rayburn Building the Architect will buy the furniture? Mr. ROBERTS. Yes.

Mr. LANGEN. What will happen to the furniture already in existence in offices in the old buildings?

Mr. ROBERTS. That is something that will have to be determined. Mr. LANGEN. What coordination is there between the Architect, who is to supply new furniture, and the furniture in the old buildings that is under your care?

Mr. ROBERTS. Even when they open the new building, we will need all that furniture.

Mr. LANGEN. Is it contemplated that some of the old furniture in the congressional offices now may move into the new building? Mr. ROBERTS. No.

Mr. STEED. It is possible there may be a surplus of executive desks that the Members have now, but I think so far as the secretarial desks are concerned they will be lucky if they get a surplus pool at all because the assumption is if the Members get an extra room they will want to equip them. So we do not have any way of knowing what will be surplus until we have the experience.

Mr. ROBERTS. That is something we have a great deal of trouble with now. When a Member moves from one office to another, he is supposed to accept the furniture in the office he moves into, but many times he wants to take his desk or something else with him. We may have that trouble when they move to the Rayburn Building.

Mr. MEGILL. Actually, the House Office Building Commission controls that. The furniture in the two buildings are not supposed to be intermingled, but there has been some intermingling despite that rule. Mr. ROBERTS. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. LANGEN. The statement you made off the record is one of the things I was getting at, that use could be made of the old furniture. Mr. ROBERTS. There will be an extra expense of refinishing and repolishing.

Mr. LANGEN. Does the Architect of the Capitol confer with you on that?

Mr. ROBERTS. No.

Mr. LANGEN. That is all.

Mr. STEED. This brings us to miscellaneous items on page 34 of the bill, page 16 of the statement.

MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS

Mr. ROBERTS. It was necessary for the Clerk's Office to set up 29 various allocations, for miscellaneous items covering the appropriation of $2,601,202.23.

We submit, for the record, a statement listing the allocations showing the amount of each allocation, the amount expended to April 30, 1963, and the balance remaining as of May 1, 1963. Although, in reality, the expenditures only cover obligations up to the end of March 1963, or even earlier in some cases, as a great many of these monthly bills have not yet been submitted for payment and, accordingly, such payments are not reflected on this statement. These figures-that is, the amounts allocated-are more or less arbitrary and, if necessary, must be changed from time to time during the fiscal year as conditions may require. It is impossible to forecast at the beginning or, for that matter, during the fiscal year, the exact amount which may be necessary for each allocation.

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