Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, this request represents a net increase of $30,500. The first_addition is $20,125 for wage rate increases authorized by Public Law 763, 83d Congress; within-grade promotions authorized by the Classification Act of 1949, $1,975; overtime and holiday pay increased by $2,000 to meet increased pay costs; contribution to retirement fund, $1,400; annual painting increased from $47,000 to $56,000-an increase of $9,000. That makes a total increase of $34,500.

PAINTING SCHEDULE

Mr. STEED. The increase in painting is brought about by the fact that periodically you have some additional painting to do and this happens to be the year?

Mr. STEWART. Mr. Ridgell can explain the painting item.

Mr. RIDGELL. Mr. Chairman, every 4 years we paint the exterior window frames and sashes of both buildings, and the penthouses, grills, and skylights of the old building. This is the fourth year since exterior painting was last done, so that is why the item is in there for 1963.

Mr. STEED. Do you have a schedule like that with any other painting work you have to do?

Mr. RIDGELL. We try to do a fourth of the regular suites each year and a number of corridors and hearing rooms.

Mr. STEED. That is why your budget, generally speaking, is fairly stable?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes, sir. The change this year is just because of the outside work.

Mr. STEED. Do you consider the two buildings are in a reasonably adequate state of repair, or do you have any special problems this year?

Mr. RIDGELL. No, sir; no special problems.

IMPACT OF 3D BUILDING

Mr. STEED. When do you think the impact on this budget will start as a result of the addition of the third building? Will that come during this fiscal year?

Mr. RIDGELL. I do not think so.

Mr. STEWART. Do you mean so far as alterations are concerned? Mr. STEED. Upkeep and maintenance.

Mr. STEWART. On the new building?

Mr. STEED. Yes; will it make an impact on this appropriation during the coming fiscal year?

Mr. STEWART. The new building is due for completion in August 1964. We hope that in the summer of 1963, beneficial occupancy can be started. How much and to what extent and where and the type of occupancy would depend on the conditions at that time, which I cannot foresee at the present time. Funds for operation would show up in the 1964 budget.

QUESTION OF REMODELING PRESENT BUILDINGS

Mr. STEED. When do you think you will be able to do any of the remodeling work on the two existing buildings?

Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, that presents a problem which we discussed informally with the House Office Building Commission. At the present time we are not certain just how to handle it. We need an expansion joint and whether movement into the third building will give us sufficient expansion, so we can work on the other two buildings, or whether we will have to utilize the Congressional Hotel and put newly elected Members in there, or perhaps some of the committees, has not been decided yet.

I would like to arrange it so that we can remodel at least one side of each of the buildings, the old and the new at one time, so that we can put up a dust-proof barrier to protect the rest of the building and start remodeling work especially in the Old House Office Building where the plumbing is in extremely bad condition. That will give us an opportunity from an economical standpoint to work better from the basement all the way up to the roof, with stacks, air conditioning changes, and work of that character that may have to be done.

We will house 168 Members in the additional building and that is going to leave 268 to be housed in the other two buildings. As to who can move and who will move, I do not know at this time. Mr. STEED. What about the committee room situation? Will the new building provide enough extra committee room spaces to enable moving some of the committees out also?

Mr. STEWART. Yes, sir. We have 9 committee rooms planned in the new building, including the new Space Committee, and 21 subcommittee rooms. Moreover, the building is so designed that every Member's suite is laid out for three offices, and, if those offices are not provided and the partitions not put in, they are exactly the same size as the subcommittee rooms and can be used for such purpose.

Mr. STEED. If you see any early beginning of the remodeling of the two buildings, it might be of importance in the amount of money you invest in maintenance and upkeep of the existing facilities. Some of that can be accomplished in the new construction if it came at the right time; is that right?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes, sir. We could hold off on painting.

Mr. STEED. There would be quite a few things, if you had a time. schedule you knew about, that might help in planning.

Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, the fact that we have held our annual maintenance items down the last 2 years reflects the same line of thinking you have.

Mr. STEED. Mr. Horan, do you have any questions on this item? Mr. HORAN. No questions.

OCCUPANCY OF THIRD BUILDING

Mr. Bow. When do you anticipate moving the new Members into the new building?

Mr. STEWART. I would say the new building would be ready for beneficial occupancy probably in July or August of 1963.

Mr. Bow. The first?

Mr. STEWART. In the summertime.

Mr. Bow. Your estimate of last year was October of 1962 and that is out?

Mr. STEWART. That is true. We just cannot make that date. There is a possibility that there might be some areas that could be used; that is, for some activities.

Mr. Bow. What is your completion date?

Mr. STEWART. August 1, 1964.

Mr. Bow. That it will be completed?

Mr. STEWART. Yes, sir.

Mr. STEED. Is that the same target date you have had all along? Mr. STEWART. No, sir, there has been some delay.

Mr. HORAN. When will the little railroad be finished in the tunnel? Mr. STEWART. Mario, do you have the dates on that?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. We have the railroad scheduled to be completed at the same time the additional House Office will be completed. In other words, August 1964, and possibly some parts earlier.

Mr. Bow. Those moved in in July of 1963 will not have transportation back and forth?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. Pedestrian perhaps but not necessarily a traveling mechanism.

REMODELING IN PRESENT BUILDINGS

Mr. Bow. What is the construction now going on over at the barbershop?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. There is a new disbursing office being assigned to the Old House Office Building from the first floor, House side of the Capitol.

This work was authorized by Speaker Rayburn before he left here last year.

Mr. Bow. That is where the old barbershop was?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. To perform this work we had to displace the old post office and Western Union and they, in turn, affected the old barbershop and the beauty parlor so that there had to be a rejuggling of that space.

Mr. Bow. What are your plans for the barbershop in the Old House Office Building?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. It remains essentially where it is, except for size. Mr. Bow. You have cut it down in size about half, have you not? Mr. CAMPIOLI. We had to do so.

Mr. Bow. What are you going to do for new furniture and fixtures in there? Are you going to give us a modern barbershop or do we stay antiquated?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. We had no appropriation for furniture in that space at all.

Mr. Bow. In other words, you are going to use the old equipment still there?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. Unless funds are authorized for new furniture. Mr. Bow. Where did you get the funds for the equipment there now?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. The additional House building authorization. Mr. Bow. This is a transfer of funds from the new House Office Building using this in the Old House Office Building?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. In the additional office building budget we had an amount for remodeling the old building and another amount for re

modeling the new building, all under the additional House Office Building project.

The funds we are using there, that portion of the funds which were allocated to the remodeling of the old building

Mr. Bow. What is it going to cost you to do this job on the barbershop? What are you putting next to them, a snack bar?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. Yes, sir; we are fixing up a snack bar and the Western Union office, the post office, and offices for the disbursing office. Mr. Bow. What is the total cost going to be?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. $200,000.

Mr. Bow. Are you going to get by on $200,000 or will it be closer to $260,000 or $265,000?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. I do not have the exact figures but it is over $200,000.

Mr. HENLOCK. $298,480 is the amount of the contract for remodeling the Old Post Office space and other related spaces. That is an actual contract figure.

Mr. Bow. For this work going on?

Mr. HENLOCK. Yes, sir.

Mr. Bow. Since you are doing this fixing up, why do you not fix up that barbershop in the building? That would come under your jurisdiction for new equipment in there, would it not?

Mr. STEWART. Mr. Ridgell, does that come under your jurisdiction? Mr. RIDGELL. No, sir. It comes out of the remodeling funds. However, I believe they do plan to put in new chairs.

Mr. Bow. That is what I asked and they said "No."

What are the facts about that?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. I was thinking in terms of furniture and furnishings. We have no authorization for that.

Mr. Bow. I was talking about modern equipment in that barbershop. Are we going to get it or not?

Mr. RIDGELL. We will have new chairs and new plumbing facilities under this contract.

Mr. Bow. We will have to find some way to get new chairs in there. They are not going to keep those old chairs in a nice new shop, I hope. This is a good barbershop and I would like to see it modernized, if you are going to do all of this work. It ought to be a modern barbershop.

When was that put in there, 1908?

Mr. STEED. My understanding is that it went in when the building was built.

Mr. Bow. I know; 1908 is about it. I think 1908 was the date. This is the same equipment and it has not been improved in that period of time.

Mr. CLANCY. There are a lot of old fixtures in there.

Mr. Bow. The barbershop is on the Doorkeeper's rolls?

Mr. RIDGELL. The old building barbership is under the Doorkeeper. That is right.

Mr. Bow. Incidentally, when we come to buy those, who is going to select them and what is going in there?

Mr. CAMPIOLI. They are specified as to the type we are going to get. They are in the contract. I do not remember the name offhand.

Mr. Bow. Who makes the selection as to the type of chairs and so forth?

Mr. STEWART. What we have done in the past is to take the head barber or the top two who work in the shop and get their recommendations as to what they require.

Mr. Bow. I would hope you would do that with this shop, too. Mr. STEWART. I know that this took place in the Capitol Building. I think we will follow the same practice.

Mr. Bow. I would suggest you do that because I think they would have a great interest in that. They are very proud of their shop. Mr. RIDGELL. We did that last year, Mr. Bow, in the New House Office Building.

Mr. Bow. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT, ADDITIONAL HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING