Mr. STEED. One point I want to make about these figures is that since the patron mail provision went into effect last fall, the volume of work performed does not reflect that this has made any appreciable impact on volume.

Mr. MILLER. Mr. Chairman, in 1960, the workload was 970,000 less pieces per month, in January 1960, over 1958. In 1962, it was even less than in 1958 and it has not increased.

Mr. STEED. I think it is well we have that in the record, since these criticisms have been made.

Mr. MILLER. Our figures do not show that Members, as such, have taken advantage of this "patron" mail, so called. Our workload has been consistent in the past.

Mr. STEED. Do you have any further comment?

SALE OF WASTEPAPER

Mr. MILLER. I have an interesting figure here that might be of value to the committee.

From 1956 through January 1962 the Office of the Doorkeeper had disposed of, through regular channels of advertising for bids, receiving bids, awarding bids, getting contracts signed and having performance bonds posted, having the bailing wire ready at hand, we have disposed of 13,514,987 pounds of wastepaper which has been obtained from the wastebaskets in the two House Office Buildings and the House wing of the Capitol.

During that time we received $92,006.98, which is money that has been turned back to the Treasury and we feel that has more than offset the cost of having to have it baled and disposed of.

We have a baling machine in the basement of the Old House Office Building and the wastepaper contractor picks up the bales of wastepaper 6 days a week. It is through that effort of getting this trash disposed of that we make some money for Uncle Sam and I am proud of that phase of the work.

Mr. STEED. Is it not also true that if you did not dispose of it through a profitable means like this

Mr. MILLER. We would have to pay money to have it disposed of and hauled away. I feel that this is one thing that is helping us out. Mr. Bow. Mr. Chairman, would you yield?

Mr. STEED. Yes.

Mr. Bow. Where does the money go from the sale of the paper? Mr. MILLER. It is sent to the Office of the Doorkeeper but it is marked "Treasurer of the United States."

Mr. Bow. It goes to miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury?
Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir.

Mr. Bow. So we get some income from this?

Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir.

Mr. Bow. It does not go back into any House fund but rather to miscellaneous receipts of the Treasury?

UNEXPENDED BALANCES-FOLDING DOCUMENTS FUND

Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir. The Doorkeeper is also happy to state that the record shows that, out of the moneys received under the lumpsum appropriation for folding documents, House folding room, in

1959, we turned back $3,622.81. In 1960, we turned back $31,261.36. This past year we turned back $53,648.30.

I do not know if we will be able to turn any back this year but we are hoping to and we look forward to watching how that figure will show up at the end of this fiscal year.

Mr. STEED. Do you attribute some of these economies in the light of your increased volume to the use of these machines?

Mr. MILLER. Yes. sir. We think they are more than paying for themselves. We are trying to sell the idea to the House Administration Subcommittee on Procurement of Machinery for the Folding Rooms, that this would be the thing for us to have, about three or four folding machines and two or three more inserting machines.

Mr. STEED. The byproduct or benefit is also that you are able to return things to the Members and service them more quickly than you otherwise could?

Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir. We have quite a number of Members who like to keep their constituents advised through the medium of a weekly newsletter, and on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays of the week we have a tremendous opportunity to render service to the Member or Members. Sometimes we have to hustle like all get-out to get this situation in hand. If a Member sends in a newsletter and states in there that something is going to happen at a certain date or has happened on a certain date, if it is not handled properly, it is dead when it gets back to the constituent and he might not have otherwise sent it at all.

Mr. STEED. That material has a definite time limitation and speed is of the essence?

Mr. MILLER. Yes, sir; and gets right-of-way over other material. Mr. STEED. Do you have any other comment?

Mr. MILLER. No; thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STEED. Mr. Miller, we want to thank you for your presentation. You have given us some very helpful and interesting information. Again, we want to say we are proud of the very fine and efficient job you are performing, and I think the feeling of the Members generally bears that out.

Mr. MILLER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. STEED. Proceed with the next item, Mr. Roberts.

SPECIAL AND MINORITY EMPLOYEES

Mr. ROBERTS. For six minority employees, $88,405, the same as appropriated in 1962, there being no change in this paragraph.

OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY FLOOR LEADER

For the office of the majority floor leader, including $2,000 for the official expenses of the majority floor leader, $72,805, the same as appropriated for 1962, there being no change in this paragraph.

OFFICE OF THE MINORITY FLOOR LEADER

For the office of the minority floor leader, including $2,000 for the official expenses of the minority floor leader, $56,295, the same as appropriated for 1962, there being no change in this paragraph.

OFFICE OF THE MAJORITY WHIP

For the office of the majority whip, $29,720, the same as appropriated for 1962, there being no change in this paragraph.

OFFICE OF THE MINORITY WHIP

For the office of the minority whip, $29,720, the same as appropriated for 1962, there being no change in this paragraph.

TWO PRINTING CLERKS FOR CAUCUS ROOMS

For two printing clerks, one for the majority caucus room and one for the minority caucus room, to be appointed by the majority and minority leaders, respectively, $13,565, the same as appropriated for the fiscal year 1962.

TECHNICAL ASSISTANT TO THE ATTENDING PHYSICIAN

For a technical assistant in the office of the attending physician to be appointed by the attending physician, subject to the approval of the Speaker, $11,535 the same as appropriated for the fiscal year

1962.

OFFICE OF THE POSTMASTER

Mr. ROBERTS. For the Office of the Postmaster, $326,125 compared with $316,210, appropriated for 1962, or an increase of $9,915.

We are requesting this increase to carry out the provisions of House Resolution 341, adopted June 29, 1961, which provided for two additional mail clerks at the basic rate of $2,100 per annum.

Mr. STEED. We have Mr. Morris, our Postmaster, and we would be pleased to have any statement he cares to make about his function and the situation in his department.

Mr. MORRIS. Mr. Chairman, and members of the committee, the resolution we are trying to have made into a permanent law will bring our total employees in the House post office to 61. We have had an increase in mail and in 1960 we handled a total, incoming mail, of 18,988,435 pieces. That is prorated with letters, flats, and papers, small parcels, large parcels, and what they term messages which are Government releases, reports, and things like that that come through. In 1961 our total incoming mail was 22,921,390, of which, in 1961, 14,899,000 were letters comparable to 1960 letters of 11,815.000. For the first 2 months of 1962 we had in January a total of 2,045,083 and in February 2,158,468.

Mr. STEED. Is this running ahead of those same months for the previous year?

Mr. MORRIS. In January of 1962, it shows an increase over January of 1961, and yet in February of 1962 we are showing a decrease of about 14,000.

I just recently asked the House Administration Committee for some additional help, which is still pending due to the fact of the workload now occasioned by the opening of the fifth floor of the George Washington Inn in which there is no elevator. We make 4 deliveries a day, Monday through Friday, to 25 offices in that building. On the

fifth floor, two rooms have just recently been assigned to the UnAmerican Activities Committee, which is their mailroom, and based on the experience we had when they were on the second floor of the Old House Office Building, we know they are going to have a pretty heavy mail because there will be reports, hearings, and various other things. That has to be carried down five flights of stairs. So far in this week they have been averaging about 10 bags of mail that we collect from the platform and the man climbs up there and has to roll the bags down. There are no other facilities in the building that can be used.

We have tried maybe to work out something that could use the old elevator shaft but that has been sealed off by order of the Fire Commissioner.

Mr. HORAN. Mr. Chairman, could I go off the record?

Mr. STEED. Yes.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. HORAN. Mr. Chairman, there is no question but what far right groups have definitely increased the mail that arrives not only in the Members' offices, but places a tremendous burden on the House Un-American Activities Committee.

Mr. STEED. We hope that someday the construction work will get far enough along so that we get better space and facilities coming into being and then some of these crowding headaches will be relieved. Until then there is not much that can be done except make do with what we have.

Mr. MORRIS. During the April recess last year, we moved from our old quarters on the second floor of the Old House Office Building into very fine quarters in the New House Office Building in what used to be the old cafeteria. We have excellent lighting facilities and space there and I would like to extend an invitation to all Members to drop down and see our working arrangements. By being put in the present new building instead of putting us in the third building now under construction, as originally planned, this will prevent us from having to double back. We are now in the middle building of the three and we will be able to fan out on both sides. We are located right on the loading dock where we keep space all the time for the mailtruck which comes up from the city post office and brings us mail 17 times a day and it takes mail out 17 times a day.

This is in addition to the eight runs on which they bring up big trucks where they take the mail from the folding room, and that mail does not pass through us at all. That goes directly from the folding room to the loading truck.

On these figures that I have given you, you might want to know how they were arrived at.

The city post office ties up a bundle of letters in which they estimate there are 150 letters and they pack from 10 to 12 in a bag. That makes about 1,800 letters in a bag coming up. Then we also have a check that we can make because 1 linear foot is equal to 290 letters and our work tables are 10 feet across. We use two sorting tables with six men working on each table at one time. We usually divide it up and we have one help the other. We make mail deliveries at 6:30 in the morning, 9 o'clock, one at 11:15 and another at 2 o'clock,

Monday through Friday, omit 2 o'clock mail on Saturday, and one delivery on Sunday.

Mr. STEED. Do you also operate a substation in the other building for the sale of stamps, money orders, and so forth?

Mr. MORRIS. Yes, sir. We just moved about 10 days ago from the second floor where they are now undergoing remodeling to put the disbursing office, and the post office will go back up there on a permanent basis when the contract is completed.

We also have a station here in the Capitol for money orders, stamps, registered and insured packages.

Mr. STEED. It is not far enough along yet for the problem of mail delivery from the new building to be of concern to you, but that is an upcoming addition to your activity?

Mr. MORRIS. That will be. We will have space reserved for us over there close to their loading platform, and possibly when that is opened up we may have to change our system to work all of the mail coming into our present facility. We may have to work it up for the new building and rework it over there by offices. We also have a problem which is common to everybody and several other offices involving pyramids of changes that come when one office moves. We are now waiting for the majority leader to move over into the Capitol. When he moves, Mr. Jones goes up to his office and Mr. Everett will go into Mr. Jones' office and they will take Mrs. Riley's place in the little office we had in the old post office around in Mr. Everett's office.

Mr. MORRIS. We have a changeover in our personnel that averages about five new people each month. I have been there since 1955 and I have four people who were there at the time I started.

Mr. STEED. And it is a matter of training and breaking in new ones all the time?

Mr. MORRIS. Yes. Breaking one in on the floor does not present too much of a problem. The original breakdown involves training and we try to take a young man when he comes in and give him several floors and then put him on the sorting tables. In addition to that, they have to know which of the people are in the Capitol. It is a pretty good memory test. They also have to be not only good in memory but it does not do us much good if they do not also have some dexterity and speed.

Mr. STEED. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. STEED. Mr. Horan, do you have any questions?

Mr. HORAN. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. MORRIS. I would like for you to see these pictures taken last Tuesday morning. These are our package bins. A lot of Members who had been mailing records from the Government Printing Office are now bringing them in bulk to their office and we have that every morning following days when the House has been in session.

This is a picture of where we sort the letters. This was taken before the 6:30 mail on the same morning.

This is a truck going out to the third floor of the Old House Office Building at 6:30 last Tuesday morning.

If you will notice, the ones on top of the picture you have in your hand are returns coming back from questionnaires and things like that