EXPLOSIVES CONTROL

HEARINGS

BEFORE

SUBCOMMITTEE NO. 5

L.S. Congress. House.

A

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

H.R. 17154, H.R. 16699, H.R. 18573
and Related Proposals

TO AMEND TITLE 18 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE TO
PROVIDE FOR BETTER CONTROL OF INTERSTATE TRAFFIC
IN EXPLOSIVES

51-938 O

JULY 15, 16, 22, 29, AND 30, 1970

SERIAL NO. 29

Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1970

BENJAMIN L. ZELENKO, General Counsel

KENNETH R. HARKINS, Chief Counsel, Antitrust Subcommittee

GARNER J. CLINE, Counsel

HERBERT FUCHS, Counsel

WILLIAM P. SHATTUCK, Counsel

JEROME ZEIFMAN, Counsel

JOSEPH FISCHER, Law Revision Counsel

DONALD G. BENN, A880ciate Counsel

FRANKLIN G. POLK, A88ociate Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE No. 5

EMANUEL CELLER, New York, Chairman

WILLIAM M. McCULLOCH, Ohio
CLARK MACGREGOR, Minnesota
ROBERT MCCLORY, Illinois
TOM RAILSBACK, Illinois
RICHARD H. POFF, Virginia
EDWARD HUTCHINSON, Michigan

BENJAMIN L. ZELENKO, General Counsel
FRANKLIN G. POLK, A880ciate Counsel

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CONTENTS

Text of bills:

H.R. 17154.

H.R. 16699.

H.R. 18573.

Other bills..

Testimony of-

Page

4-27

28-32

164-181

342-447

Both, Richard J., chairman, Public Safety Committee, Institute of

Makers of Explosives, accompanied by: Matthew M. Champion,

Technical Committee; Frank H. Gordon, counsel, and Harry L.

Hampton, Jr., secretary-treasurer___

Brotzman, Hon. Donald E., a U.S. Representative in Congress from
the State of Colorado..

Cramer, Hon. William C., a U.S. Representative in Congress from
the State of Florida..

Dole, Hon. Hollis M., Assistant Secretary of the Interior (Mineral
Resources), accompanied by: Dr. Earl T. Hayes, Acting Director,
Bureau of Mines; Frank Bracken, Legislative Counsel, Office of
Solicitor; Norman Hanna and Joseph Grumer, Pittsburgh Health
and Safety Research Center, Bureau of Mines__
Goldwater, Hon. Barry M., Jr., a U.S. Representative in Congress
from the State of California__

Goodwin, Lt. Col. Vaughn K., USAF (Ret.), first vice president,

National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association__

Knox, Neal, editor, the Handloader Magazine and the Rifle Magazine.

Mayne, Hon. Wiley, a U.S. Representative in Congress from the State
of Iowa..

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302

129

287

265

269

113

Minshall, Hon. William E., a U.S. Representative in Congress from

the State of Ohio...

Rossides, Hon. Eugene T., Assistant Secretary of the Treasury (En-

forcement and Operations), accompanied by: G. Gordon Liddy,

Special Assistant for Organized Crime..

Steinberg, David J., executive director, National Council for a Respon-

sible Firearms Policy, Inc____

Teller, Albert E., International Society of Explosives Specialists.

Vanik, Hon. Charles A., a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of Ohio____

Wilson, Will, Esq., Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division,
Department of Justice, accompanied by: Michael Abbell, Esq., and
William Nichols, Esq., Criminal Division

Wylie, Hon. Chalmers P., a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of Ohio, accompanied by: Charles Wegner, legislative

assistant..-

Ashbrook, Hon. John M., a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of Ohio....

316

Biaggi, Hon. Mario, a U.S. Representative in Congress from the State

of New York..

317

Brock, Hon. William E., III, a U.S. Representative in Congress from
the State of Tennessee.

311

Brown, Hon. Clarence J., a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of Ohio.

319

Burke, Hon. J. Herbert, a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of Florida__

320

Clausen, Hon. Don H., a U.S. Representative in Congress from the

State of California..

314