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RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS
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HEARINGS

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-NINTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts
WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky
NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin

EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio

TOM BEVILL, Alabama

BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania

BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts
CHARLES WILSON, Texas

LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington

MATTHEW F. MCHUGH, New York
WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida
MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina

LES AUCOIN, Oregon

DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii

WES WATKINS, Oklahoma

WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey

BILL BONER, Tennessee

STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana
CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio
LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
JACK F. KEMP, New York
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
GEORGE M. O'BRIEN, Illinois
VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska

ELDON RUDD, Arizona

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
BILL GREEN, New York

TOM LOEFFLER, Texas
JERRY LEWIS, California

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
JOE SKEEN, New Mexico
FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
BILL LOWERY, California

FREDERICK G. MOHRMAN, Clerk and Staff Director

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AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1986

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 1985.

AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE

WITNESSES

ORVILLE G. BENTLEY, ASSISTANT SECRETARY, SCIENCE AND EDUCATION

TERRY B. KINNEY, JR., ADMINISTRATOR, AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE

MARY É. CARTER, ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR

THOMAS J. ARMY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, NATIONAL PROGRAM STAFF
EDWARD B. KNIPLING, ASSOCIATE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
DANNY B. LASTER, ASSOCIATE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR

ARTHUR H. NIES, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGE-
MENT

JOHN R. VICTOR, DIRECTOR, BUDGET AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT STAFF

STEPHEN B. DEWHURST, BUDGET OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

OPENING REMARKS

Mr. WHITTEN. The Subcommittee will come to order. We are glad to have you here today. I don't know of anyone, any group, that has more awareness of the benefits of agricultural research than Members of this Subcommittee. By the same token, we have perhaps complained about as much as anyone because we do not have evidence that we can take to the floor to support agricultural research. If we don't get the information from you, we don't have it to take to our colleagues. And lately in the past we have wondered whether reorganizations haven't been structured so we could not see what was going on so we could present Congress's idea about what was important and what was not-our own views.

Particularly point out the difference between applied research and basic research, between competitive research and special research. As someone said, a fellow who's involved in research doesn't want any directives; he wants to follow his own idea about which way to go. And if he can spend a lifetime at it, it's not bad. But we have to fight against those things. We recognize the need for basic research, but when you have got lots of problems like we have now, and then we have to go on the floor and try to sell basic research and neglect that study which is needed right now, we are hard put to do that.

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