tools; material and supplies for the repair shops; purchase of new furniture and equipment; trunks, or so-called packing boxes; rugs or carpets; cleaning and repairing of same; we have submitted an estimate of $250,000 for the fiscal year 1969.

Our budget for 1969 is based on $110,000 for supplies and materials; $50,000 for the purchase of furniture and equipment; $10,000 for cleaning, repair work, and remaking of old rugs; $45,000 for the purchase of new carpet; $10,000 for the purchase of trunks, or socalled packing boxes, for the first session of the 91st Congress; $20,000 for the purchase of new drapery material, drapery supplies, and sewing; $5,000 for insect extermination work, replacement of equipment and supplies.

Mr. ANDREWS. I notice that as of February 29, 1968, you had spent only about $31,000 out of the $250,000 appropriated for this item in fiscal year 1968.

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. What has that $31,000 been expended for?

Mr. JENNINGS. For these various things we have enumerated above. But I think one of the reasons this is so low, that I recall specifically, is the fact we put in quite an order for packing boxes before the end of last year because the Seward Trunk Co., who supplies those boxes, notified us there was going to be quite a price increase, so we made a substantial purchase at that time because they said they would adhere to the old price list. As a matter of fact, we ordered under the old price list and that is when they told us there was going to be a price

increase.

Mr. ANDREWS. They would not sell them to you under the old price list?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, they did, but they told us there was going to be a substantial price increase. This was charged out of last year's appropriation. Also, we have ordered some new equipment that was made necessary by the move to the underground garage. All of that has not been delivered, nor has some of that which has been delivered been paid for.

Of course you realize, Mr. Chairman, that any of this amount that is left over as of the first of July will revert to the Treasury. It does not stay there until expended.

Mr. ANDREWS. For 1967, I believe your total appropriation was $2,185,000 including a special allotment of $1,885,000 for the Cannon Building refurbishing project?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

REFURNISHING THE CANNON OFFICE BUILDING

Mr. ANDREWS. Your statement shows that of the 1967 appropriation of $2,185,000, you had an unexpended balance of $1,981,000.

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. What is the obligated status of that fund, what have you done and how much have you used in connection with the Cannon Building project and what more do you have to do?

Mr. JENNINGS. Actually we have done very, very little. What we did in the first phase of the Cannon Building project was to consolidate the furniture from all of the Cannon Building and we picked out the better part of it to furnish the offices in the Cannon Building. We did obligate for the draperies. The company defaulted in their contract and I have canceled the contract and that is now in litigation. They just did not perform. We have just received the bids and the attorney and the property custodian are reviewing the bids on the property.

Mr. ANDREWS. For this furniture account in 1967 we appropriated $2,185,000?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. And it shows on page 28 of your statement that of that amount you had remaining at the end of fiscal year 1967, unerpended, $1,981,366.13.

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Did that amount revert to the Treasury?

Mr. JENNINGS. No. That amount stays until such time as it is ex pended because that was a special appropriation for the Cannon Building and none of that has been expended with the exception of the venetian blinds. Incidentally, we are well satisfied with the contract and the performance of the contract on the venetian blinds. As I said, we let the contract on the draperies but they defaulted.

Mr. ANDREWS. In 1966, you had for this item $140,000, and your records show a balance unexpended at the end of 1966 of $73,370.22 Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Did that amount revert to the Treasury?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes. I might add in my opinion had that been spent at that time the request would not have been as great as it is today. The prices were much cheaper then and the things we are buying now are up roughly 25 percent.

Mr. ANDREWS. Of the $2,185,000 appropriated in 1967, $1,885,000 was earmarked for the Cannon Building?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. To remain available until expended?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes

Mr. ANDREWS. How much of your original $2,185,000 appropriated for 1967, which included the $1,885,000 for the Cannon Building, reverted to the Treasury?

Mr. JENNINGS. Not any

Mr. ANDREWS. That was an unusual year in view of the fact you to completely renovate a building, the Čannon Building?

had

FURNISHING BASEMENT LEVEL OF RAYBURN BUILDING

Mr. JENNINGS. That is right. I might add also that we are confronted with another problem and that is the furnishing of the basement level of the Rayburn Building. There was never any provision made for the furnishing of the basement level. What happened, the old furniture from the George Washington Inn was brought to the basement level of the Rayburn Building and most of it remains there. The Property Custodian is at this time making a complete inventory as to the needs to furnish the basement of the Rayburn Building with Rayburn Buildingtype furniture. It was recommended by the Architect, as I recall it, that roughly $330,000 would be required to furnish the basement level. Mr. ANDREWS. When will it be bought and what steps have been taken in this connection?

Mr. JENNINGS. No steps have been taken at all.

Mr. ANDREWS. If and when you buy it, will you buy it on competitive bids?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes.

Mr. ANDREWS. What do you notice about the price of furniture? Mr. JENNINGS. It is going up at the rate of 5 or 10 percent a year.

STATUS OF 1967 FUNDS

Mr. ANDREWS. In the breakdown on page 40 of the committee print, for 1967 you show various amounts for the different objects, but those obviously are not the amounts used. What was used?

Mr. JENNINGS. In what year?

Mr. ANDREWS. 1967.

Mr. JENNINGS. 1967 has been cleaned out and that is the actual figure.

Mr. ANDREWS. Did you use all of that amount? I thought you stated a few minutes ago you had an unexpended balance.

Mr. JENNINGS. In that year actually we have used $203,633.87 of the 32,185,000, which leaves $1,981,366.13 yet unexpended.

Mr. ANDREWS. And all of that is being held to furnish the Cannon Building, none of it will revert to the Treasury?

Mr. JENNINGS. That is right.

Mr. ANDREWS. And the basement of the Rayburn Building, if you lecide to go forward and buy the furniture for that?

FURNISHING BASEMENT LEVEL OF RAYBURN BUILDING

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. This is one of those things that is kind of nixed up. At one time the Architect's Office told me they had enough noney to furnish that basement level. As a matter of fact, I think they aid that before the committee.

Mr. ANDREWS. Out of what fund?

Mr. JENNINGS. Out of the funds for the furnishings of the Rayurn Building. You see, the Architect's Office furnished the Rayburn Building. That was not handled by the Clerk's Office.

Mr. ANDREWs. That is a brandnew building.

Mr. JENNINGS. That was a brandnew building.

Mr. ANDREWS. That was the reason for the Architect furnishing it?

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Mr. JENNINGS. I do not know the reason but when I was elected Clerk and asked for a complete accounting from the General Accounting Office as to what actually I was taking over and being charged with, there was some disagreement between the former Clerk and the Architect of the Capitol. There was a letter of transmittal transferring the furniture from the Architect to the Clerk, but the Clerk had not accepted it because of certain shortages. At that time the $330,000 was discussed and that has not been resolved as of this date. I understand from the Architect's Office now that they do not have the money to buy that furniture. We have gotten some real good competitive bids on the furniture.

Mr. ANDREWS. How much in dollars and cents would it take to furnish the portion of the Rayburn Building you are talking about?

Mr. JENNINGS. I have the property custodian making an inventory right now and based on the bids which we have received from the Cannon Building, based on those prices I have asked him to make an inventory of what it would cost to furnish that and he is now in the process of doing that.

Mr. ANDREWS. What is a ball park figure?

Mr. JENNINGS. Between $300,000 and $350,000, I would say closer to $350,000.

Mr. ANDREWS. Will you have funds available from this 1967 appropropriation, of which you have a balance of $1,981,000, to buy that furniture?

Mr. JENNINGS. Mr. Chairman, I really don't know.

Mr. ANDREWS. You are not asking any money for furnishing the basement of the Rayburn Building?

Mr. JENNINGS. No, sir. I would hope a portion of this $1,981,000 could be applied for that purpose.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have remaining of the $2,185,000 appropriated in 1967, $1,981,000 unexpended?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS

Mr. ANDREWS. On the item of $110,000 for supplies and materials, that is an increase of $95,000 over the last fiscal year?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. And you project the same total for next year?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes.

Mr. ANDREWS. What would you be using $110,000 for in the way of supplies and materials?

Mr. JENNINGS. Well, we have taken over more space, for one thing. We have three buildings now instead of two. In addition to that we have the underground garage, and in addition we are now beginning the cleaning of the carpeting in the committee rooms in the Rayburn Building. We are trying to have a preventive maintenance type operation.

Mr. ANDREWS. Supply for the record some of the items you have provided under this heading.

Mr. JENNINGS. One thing, if you recall, we cut down on our furniture request considerably, a great deal, over what the Architect had recommended for the refurnished Cannon Building and we are recovering the Turkish type chairs, which are the big leather chairs.

COST OF RECOVERING CHAIRS

Mr. ANDREWS. How much does it cost to recover one of those chairs? Mr. JENNINGS. About $200 or $250.

Mr. ANDREWS. What would that chair cost new?

Mr. JENNINGS. It is almost priceless. It would cost over $1,000. I think we had an estimate from a manufacturer of $1,200 and none of them are particularly anxious to do it because they said they did not have the craftsmen and technicians to do that type work.

Mr. ANDREWS. They are only used in the Cannon Building?

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, and in the Capitol but this cut down a great deal, a great deal, on the furniture estimate that was submitted by the Architect.

Mr. ANDREWS. And you say it costs about $200 per chair to get the work done?

Mr. JENNINGS. Or $250.

Mr. ANDREWS. Who is doing that work? Are you doing it in-house or by contract?

Mr. JENNINGS. Our own in-house people are doing it. We have some of the finest reupholsterers in the country.

Mr. ANDREWS. Where do you get your leather?

Mr. JENNINGS. On a competitive basis.

Mr. ANDREWS. What do you intend to get with this amount you are requesting here?

Mr. JENNINGS. Mostly replacements, requests from committee chairmen and individual Members and for the Speaker's lobby and various and sundry requests that we receive from Members.

Mr. ANDREWs. Off the record. (Discussion off the record.)

ENTITLEMENT OF PACKING BOXES

Mr. ANDREWS. What is the current provision of entitlement for the so-called packing boxes where you show a large increase over 1967? Mr. JENNINGS. That increase is mostly due to a price increase plus the fact Members may be using them a little more. Under statute they are permitted one locker or packing box for each session of Congress, and with the departure of so many Members last year many came back and made a request for their unused allocation. And due to the increased paperwork and the increasing demands made on the Members, they are using those packing boxes to store more of their materiels, and I expect in the long run there might be a little saving there because otherwise they would be buying filing cabinets.

Mr. ANDREWS. Well, a Member usually accumulates, in a year's time, enough to fill one of those lockers.

Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir.