OFFICIAL REPORTERS TO COMMITTEES Mr. JENNINGS. For official reporters to committees, $286,255, compared with $273,925 appropriated for 1968, or an increase of $12,330. We are requesting this increase to carry out the provisions of the Pay Act of 1967. Mr. ANDREWS. How many people are involved? Mr. ANDREWS. How are these reporters of debates and reporters to committees appointed? Mr. JENNINGS. By the Speaker. Mr. ANDREWS. I want to congratulate our reporters. I think they do an excellent job up here and I believe they do more reporting for our Appropriations Committee than for any other committee in the Congress. Proceed. APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, INVESTIGATIVE STAFF Mr. JENNINGS. For salaries and expenses, studies and examinations of executive agencies by the Committee on Appropriations, to be expended in accordance with section 202 (b) of the "Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946," $966,625, compared with $750,000 appropriated for 1968, or an increase of $216,625. Mr. ANDREWS. Are expenditures from this item subject to approval by the chairman of the Appropriations Committee? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir; he is the man. Mr. ANDREWS. Is there a pay supplemental for that? Mr. JENNINGS. No, sir; there is not a pay supplemental for that par ticular part here. Mr. ANDREWS. How many people are involved? Mr. JENNINGS. That is a lump-sum item. Mr. ANDREWS. How many people are involved? Mr. JENNINGS. Five, I believe. It is basically a lump-sum amount on reimbursement for services, travel, and so forth. (Off the record.) Mr. ANDREWS. Proceed, Mr. Clerk. OFFICE OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Mr. JENNINGS. For salaries and expenses of the office of the legislative counsel, $378,290, compared with $350,000 appropriated for 1968, or an increase of $28,290. Mr. Edward Craft, the legislative counsel, will be pleased to answer any questions that you care to ask. All positions and rates of salaries are set by the legislative counsel, with the approval of the Speaker, except the legislative counsel, whose salary is set by law. Mr. ANDREWS. How many people do you have on the payroll, Mr. Craft? Mr. CRAFT. We have 19 at present. Mr. ANDREWS. The same number you had in 1968 and 1967? Mr. CRAFT. Yes, sir. We had attempted, as you know, to expand the office. We added an attorney in August and lost one of our senior attorneys in November. So we had for the 3-month period 13 attorneys. We are now at 12. We have selected a young man that is going to graduate at the end of this year, a good man, and he will come on during the early part of the next fiscal year. DUTIES OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Mr. ANDREWS. Tell us briefly what the duties of your office are. Mr. CRAFT. Our function basically is to draft legislation, all types of bills, resolutions, and amendments. Our primary responsibility is to committees. We do the work only on request. We also do the same work for individual Members upon request. Mr. ANDREWS. Do you work both for committees and individual Members? Mr. CRAFT. That is correct. WORKLOAD Mr. ANDREWS. How is your workload? Mr. CRAFT. It has been very heavy. For a long period of time we did not increase the staff above the number we had, 11 was the number we had for quite a number of years, because of our space limitations. And we are looking forward now to getting the increased space that we will have in the Cannon Building when we move back. We are temporarily in the Longworth Building. We hope to add another two or three attorneys and I hope that will be adequate. NATURE OF REQUEST Mr. ANDREWS. You are not requesting additional positions in this budget request? Mr. CRAFT. There is an adequate amount. It is carried in a lump sum at the end to cover additional positions and promotions and contingencies. Mr. ANDREWS. Is that the $46,500? Mr. CRAFT. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. That is the first time you have requested a lump sum? Mr. CRAFT. We have usually carried an item like that. Mr. ANDREWS. It is not shown in the breakdown for the 2 preceding years. SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST How about the pay supplemental. Do you have a request for supplemental appropriation for pay? Mr. CRAFT. I believe there was an automatic amount included of $11,815. UNEXPENDED BALANCES Mr. ANDREWS. Will you have an unexpended balance this year? Mr. CRAFT. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. What will it be? Mr. CRAFT. I do not know the exact balance, because I have expenditures on the basis of the February 29 rate. At that point it is just under $332,000. Mr. ANDREWS. Did you have an unexpended balance at the end of fiscal 1967? Mr. CRAFT. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. How much? Mr. CRAFT. Again I do not have those figures. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Jennings, was the unexpended balance available at the end of 1967, $14,542.64? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. And 1966 ? Mr. JENNINGS. $9,824.52. Mr. ANDREWS. And projected for 1968? Mr. JENNINGS. We do not know. It will depend upon the expenditures of Mr. Craft. As of February 29 we had a balance of $130,224.52. Mr. ANDREWS. What about it, Mr. Craft? Would you project an unexpended balance at the end of this year? Mr. CRAFT. There would be an unexpended balance, yes. Mr. ANDREWs. How much? Mr. CRAFT. I believe it is going to run close to $19,000. Mr. ANDREWS. And you have a supplemental request for $11,800 ? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes. Mr. ANDREWS. Does the $19,000 plus unexpended balance that you project or predict include the $11,000 for pay increase? Mr. CRAFT. It includes the pay increase; it does not include the requested supplemental that I believe is automatic of $11,000. Mr. ANDREWS. All right. Proceed, Mr. Clerk. CLERK-HIRE: MEMBERS AND RESIDENT COMMISSIONER Mr. JENNINGS. For clerk-hire necessary for employees of each Member and the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico in the discharge of their official and representative duties, $38,142,500 com pared with $35,500,000 appropriated for 1968, or an increase of $2,642,500. Our estimate is based largely upon experience, although we have no way of knowing exactly how much may be used. The precise amount requested depends upon the salaries designated by the Members to their staffs within the limitation of the law. As of February 29, 1968, the Members were employing 4,156 clerks at the gross monthly salary of $3,141,662, while under the law 4,890 clerks could be employed. Of this latter number, 94 Members, with a constituency of over 500,000, could employ 12 clerks each, whereas all other Members are limited to 11 clerks. Mr. ANDREWS. Your current appropriation for 1968 is $35.5 million, and according to your statement on page 27, under expenditures through 8 months, was $24,673,000. Mr. JENNINGS. That is correct, leaving a balance of $10,826,178.14. Mr. ANDREWS. Your pending pay act supplemental is $1,217,700? Mr. JENNINGS. That is correct. UNEXPENDED BALANCES Mr. ANDREWS. If you get that supplemental, based on your most recent experience, what would you surmise that the balance unexpended, if any, might be on June 30? Mr. JENNINGS. Roughly $75,000. Mr. ANDREWS. Pretty close. Mr. JENNINGS. This is really close. Mr. ANDREWS. Did you have an unexpended balance in 1967? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWs. How much? Mr. JENNINGS. $701,132.04. Mr. ANDREWS. At the end of fiscal 1966? Mr. JENNINGS. $345,682.72. Mr. ANDREWS. But you do not anticipate any balance at the end of fiscal 1969, based on the experience you have had through February of 1968? NUMBER OF CLERKS Mr. JENNINGS. That is correct, because we have, Mr. Chairman, 31 Members that are using 12 clerks, we have 123 Members that are using eleven clerks, we have 98 Members that are using ten clerks, we have 69 Members that are using nine clerks, we have 54 Members that are using eight, we have 61 Members that are using under eight clerks. Mr. ANDREWS. I am in that category. Mr. JENNING. Yes, sir; you are. Mr. ANDREWS. We will put this chart in the record at this point. Mr. ANDREWS. Using the February payroll figure of $3,141,000, which you mentioned in your statement, that would seem to indicate an annual payroll figure, based on that month, of about $37.7 million. Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. Which is less than half a million dollar margin when compared with your fiscal 1969 budget request of $38,142,500. Do you have a payroll figure for, say, March? Mr. JENNINGS. It is $4,000 higher. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Clerk, this is a fund which is used to pay employees of Members; is that correct? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. The law provides the number of clerks that each Member can have; is that correct? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. Maximum? Mr. JENNINGS. The law provides, if the Member represents a district that has over 500,000 people, he may have 12 employees. If he has less than 500,000 people, he may have a maximum of 11 employees Mr. ANDREWS. So, the amount involved under this item is determined exclusively by action on the part of the Members? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. It is an item over which you have no discretion? Mr. JENNINGS. Absolutely no control or discretion. It is a calculated guess based upon past experience. (Off the record.) SUMMER INTERN PROGRAM Mr. ANDREWS. Could you tell us about what the cost of the so-called intern program has been? Mr. JENNINGS. Yes, sir. For the calendar year 1965, which was the first session of the 89th Congress Mr. Chairman, I have a table here that you may want to have supplied for the record. Mr. ANDREWS. Put it in the record. (The table follows:) |