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Mr. RIDGELL. Because two moves will be involved in most cases where room reassignments occur. We have 76 members who will move into the Cannon Building this fall after completion of the second phase of remodelling in that building. In moving 76 Members into the Cannon Building, we will average two moves per vacancy. Last year we moved 62 Members into the newly remodeled suites in the Cannon Building, completed under the first phase of the remodelling program. These changes actually resulted in 108 "chain reaction" moves. The rooms that will be vacated this fall must be painted; and, in addition, after the election we usually average 60 or 70 vacancies.

Mr. ANDREWS. That is the normal election every 2 years?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes. In the case of the most recent vacancy in the Rayburn Building, where a Member had occupied his suite in that building for 3 years, resultant room changes caused a chain move of five members.

Mr. ANDREWS. Whenever a Member moves into a suite you have that suite freshly painted ?

Mr. RIDGELL. That is right, particularly if it has been occupied a year or two.

Mr. ANDREWS.ork in the Lange the coming street and confides and

REMODELING OF CANNON AND LONGWORTH BUILDINGS Mr. ANDREWS. Has the work been completed on the Cannon Building?

Mr. RIDGELL. No; the second phase will be completed this fall. Mr. ANDREWS. How many have moved in the Cannon Building? Mr. RIDGELL. Sixty two.

Mr. ANDREWS. How many will that building accommodate when it is completed ?

Mr. RIDGELL. 138.

Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Stewart, since you are already asking for funds for remodeling work in the Longworth Building why should we pay for painting suites in that building the coming year?

Mr. RIDGELL. The plan is to close off "C" Street and continue to operate the South Capitol Street and New Jersey Avenue sides and the Independence Avenue front. The Members will be shifted to rooms in those 3 sides as they are vacated.

Mr. ANDREWS. You are planning on doing the Longworth Building by phases!

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes, three phases.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have not started remodeling the Longworth Building, have you?

Mr. RIDGELL. No.

Mr. ANDREWS. When you start where will you start and will you go floor by floor or one side at a time?

Mr. RIDGELL, One side at a time, top to bottom. First will be the C Street side. That will necessitate 65 Members to vacate their suites on that side of the building.

Mr. ANDREWS. Will those people move into the Cannon Building!

Mr. RIDGELL. No; they will move to the South Capitol and the New Jersey sides of the Longworth Building.

Mr. ANDREWS. How many members are in the Longworth Building at the present time?

Mr. RIDGELL. There are 239 two-room suites, but they are not all occupied by Members.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have 239 suites in the Longworth Building? Mr. RIDGELL. Yes.

Mr. ANDREWS. How many will you have after remodeling and giving each Member three rooms?

Mr. RIDGELL. We will have 144 three-room suites, of which 126 will be required for use as suites by the Members.

Mr. ANDREWS. At present, you have 239 suites in the Longworth Building ?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes. Mr. ANDREWS. How many are occupied by Members? Does anybody know?

Mr. RIDGELL. I have it on an overall picture. There are 202 Members who have their Congressional suites in the Longworth Building now. After complete remodeling, 126 Members will have their congressional suits in the Longworth Building. In addition, 169 will have their suites in the Rayburn Building; three in the Capitol; and 138 in the Cannon Building.

Mr. ANDREWS. My question is, How many suites of the 239 in the Longworth Building are occupied now by Members ?

Mr. RIDGELL. 202.

Mr. ANDREWS. So there are 37 vacancies so far as Members are concerned?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Now, 202 Members are now occupying the Long. worth Building; is that right? That is the figure you gave me.

Mr. RIDGELL. 202 is the correct figure.
Mr. ANDREWS. 202 ?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes. We have 436 Members counting the Puerto Rican Delegate. We have 169 in the Rayburn Building, three in the Capitol, and, at present, 62 in the Cannon Building. That leaves 202 in the Longworth Building.

Mr. ANDREWS. So you have 37 vacancies in the Longworth Building. I would like to know how many are on the C Street side, the side you will start working on first.

Mr. RIDGELL. Sixty-five.

Mr. ANDREWS. And you will have, in the fall, space for how many Members in the Cannon Building?

Mr. RIDGELL. Seventy-six.

Mr. ANDREWS. So then you can handle the Members on the C Street side in the Cannon Building or in the 37 vacancies you have in the Longworth Building?

Mr. RIDGELL. Those suites are not vacant. For instance, we have the official committee reporters in four of them. Mr. ANDREWS. I am speaking only of Members.

Mr. RIDGELL. If Members were to occupy all of those 37 suites, then there would be no rooms available for related operations now housed in that building.

Mr. ANDREWS. When do you expect to start work on the 65 suites on the C Street side of the Longworth Building, Mr. Architect? · Mr. STEWART. As soon as we get the green light. ..

Mr. ANDREWS. It is not green light, but the green dollar. i.
Mr. Roof. In the summer of 1969 to the spring of 1970.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. If you did not go ahead in 1969 if this subcommittee or others felt that with the war and the budgetary situation maybe this was something we could postpone, you haven't made any beginning on this, no initial contracts have been made?..

Mr. STEWART. No commitments have been made whatsoever.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. In other words, this is one we could put in abeyance until the war was over?

Mr. STEWART. If you so decide.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. And there would be room in the Longworth Building for each Member to have a two-room suite and an annex office ? Mr. RIDGELL. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. Which would be more than Members have had in all these decades.

Mr. RIDGELL. He may not have the third room on the same floor as his office, but he would have a room available.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. There could be a judicious assignment of offices so that you could have half as many annexes on a floor as offices?

Mr. RIDGELL. We could, but of course we would have to follow our seniority system of selection.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. All you would have to do would be not to permit them to file on one-third on the same floor, so it could be done?

Mr. RIDGELL. These are matters which would have to be determined and approved by the House Office Building Commission.

· Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. Mr. Chairman, could we go off the record ? Mr. ANDREWS. Sure. (Discussion off the record.)

OPERATION OF GARAGES Mr. ANDREWS. How many employees or positions are involved in the operation of garages?

Mr. HENLOCK. There are 59; 60 counting Mike Preloh, the superintendent.

Mr. ANDREWS. Mike Preloh is the superintendent ?
Mr. HENLOCK. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. What is the approximate annual cost for the operation of all garages?

Mr. HENLOCK. $500,000 for salaries.
Mr. ANDREWS. For salaries?
Mr. HENLOCK. Yes. That is all there is involved in the operation.
Mr. ANDREWS. $500,000 in even money?
Mr. HENLOCK. No, it comes to approximately half a million dollars.
For instance, attendants' rates vary. A man comes in at a minimum
rate under the wage board system and after 6 months he is raised to the
second rate.

Mr. ANDREWS. But a good round figure is $500,000 ?
Mr. HENLOCK. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. I believe we allowed 28 additional positions for the new underground garages. How many are employed and what does experience show as to the adequacy of that force, to take care of the situation?

Mr. PRELOH. All attendants have been hired. At the present time we have four vacancies, two of which have just occurred.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have 55 on the payroll ?
Mr. PRELOH. Fifty-six with myself and four vacancies,

NIGHTWORK AND SUNDAY DIFFERENTIAL PAY Mr. ANDREWS. What about nightwork and Sunday differential pay in connection with the increase of $47,300 for this item? You say the current allotment is $120,500. Can you tell us what you have used as of some recent date ?

Mr. HENLOCK. For the first 8 months of this fiscal year, it has run $93,000 and it will run easily $167,800 next year. As I have stated, the automatic computer system will enable us to give you more accurate figures hereafter.

Mr. ANDREWS. How many people are drawing nightwork and Sunday differential pay?

Mr. RIDGELL. Approximately 310 night differential and 99 premium pay on Sunday. Included in the 310 are 178 charwomen; 11 supervisors; 54 night laborers; also electricians, elevator mechanics, plumbers, and two night shifts in the garages.

Mr. ANDREWS. Do charwomen who come to work early in the morning or night get differential pay?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes.
Mr. ANDREWS. What is the differential?
Mr. RIDGELL. Ten percent.

INSECT AND PEST CONTROL Mr. ANDREWS. What is the present situation as to insect and pest control? Is that pretty much under control?

Mr. RIDGELL. Yes. We average 10 or 15 calls a month. We have a regular maintenance schedule but if a member sees insects in his office he calls us and these special orders are taken care of immediately.

GARAGES

Mr. ANDREWS. Back to the garages. Mike, do you have any problems you would like to discuss with the committee?

Mr. PRELOH. No, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. How many spaces are provided in all the garages? First, how many garages are we talking about?

Mr. HENLOCK. One in the Rayburn Building, 1,668 spaces; one in the Cannon Building, 301 spaces; and two underground, 1,268 spaces.

Mr. ANDREWS. For a total of how many, about 3,200.
Mr. HENLOCK. It would make approximately 3,200.

Mr. ANDREWS. Any questions about the garages or the nightwork and Sunday differential pay on the House Office Buildings ?

Mr. REIFEL. Mr. Chairman, I want to express my appreciation to the charwomen. In the 8 years I have been here those women have done an excellent job. I don't know what the experience of other Members has been but I have only commendation for the work they do. I would like you to pass that on to these ladies who are doing such a nice job.

Mr. RIDGELL. Thank you, I will do that.
Mr. ANDREWS. We will adjourn until 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.

THURSDAY, MARCH 28, 1969. Mr. ANDREWS. The committee will come to order and we will continue with the Office of the Architect of the Capitol.

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