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the institutions may obtain the publications from India and Pakistan and the United Arab Republic also, but they would pay $500 for each set.

Mr. WELSH. In addition to the full sets we have been discussing, there are 310 libraries that receive the English-language publications we acquire through this program. The participants are'identified on pages 216 to 220. I think that most every State has a number of institutions represented,

- FINANCING THE CENTRAL CATÁLOGING FUNCTIONS Mr. STEED. Once these materials are obtained and shipped, there is a matter of the central cataloging, and distribution and this, of course, represents some item of expense. How is that met? Do you pay it all, or do the libraries ?

Dr. MUMFORD. We do as much cataloging as possible in the country of origin, using native personnel supervised by the American there. Then the cataloging is revised before cards are printed here. Up until the present they have been paying; they have volunteered to pay for some of this cataloging.

Mr. WELSH. To a large extent, though, Mr. Chairman, the cataloging is done in the foreign offices. India is an excellent example. There are 17 dialects in India and it has been impossible for the Library of Congress to acquire that expertise here. We have been able to acquiro local personnel there and an American cataloger supervises the operation. We use local staff and local currencies to get as much of the cataloging done as possible.

Dr. MUMFORD. The Library of Congress also acquires a copy of the important publications of these countries. This overseas cataloging therefore assists the Library of Congress also.

ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROGRAM BY PARTICIPATING LIBRARIES

Mr. STEED. In prior years, especially when I was chairman of this subcommittee, the American Library Association-and especially the Association of Research Libraries would show up and enthusiastically endorse this program. What is the attitude of the libraries currently? Are they still enthusiastic about it?

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, indeed. They would like to see this program continued and wish there were more countries where there were excess foreign currencies available. They would be very glad to see it extended to other countries. But the number of countries where the funds are available is limited.

Mr. STEED. Since that program has always been of very broad and intense interest to my good friend from Minnesota, Mr. Langen, I yield to him.

COST OF TRANSPORTING MATERIAL Mr. LANGEN. I pursued this subject some the other day, so I will let that suffice, in that category. But one question that I do not believe we covered the other day, some of this material is still flown back here, brought back by airmail. - Mr. WELSH. One copy is airfreighted back, the copy that comes to the Library of Congress for cataloging purposes, so that we can com

plete the cataloging and get the catalog cards distributed to the participating libraries as soon as possible. The copies to the other libraries are sent by ocean freight.

Mr. LANGEN. How much postage is involved now in the airmail! Mr. WELSH. I do not have that. Dr. MUMFORD. Postage comes out of the native currency. Mr. WELSH. Yes; the total allotment for transportation of things is $233,000. $200,000 is in soft currencies and $23,000 in hard dollars. However, the $23,000 also includes the shipment of household effects for new employees and other related expenses. Postage charges come out of the $200,000 in foreign currencies.

Mr. LANGEN. This takes care of all of the airmail necessary to get the material back?

Mr. WELSH. Yes.

TIME REQUIRED FOR DISTRIBUTION OF MATERIAL

Mr. LANGEN. I seem to recall, too, some discussion some time ago that it is brought back here by airmail and then processed here before distribution. What is the time lag after it gets here by airmail before it is ready for distribution to the respective participating libraries?

Mr. WELSH. About three weeks. The material has to go through a number of operations. It goes through our Descriptive Catalog Division, then it goes to the Subject Cataloging Division where we give an indication of the subject content. Then it is classified for shelf-locating purposes. Following those steps the copy goes to the Government Printing Office, where the card is printed.

Dr. MUMFORD. This is distribution of the cataloging information. Mr. Langen is speaking of the distribution of the material itself, which is sent directly to the libraries. It does not come here to Washington. Mr. LANGEN. It does not come here to Washington? Dr. MUMFORD. Not the material that goes to the individual libraries. Mr. LANGEN. One copy comes here for cataloging purposes? Dr. MUMFORD. Yes; for completing the cataloging.

Mr. LANGEN. So any of this, whether it comes by air mail or regular mail, is sent directly to the participating libraries?

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes; that is correct. But the books for other libraries go by ocean freight, not air freight.

BACKLOGS Mr. LANGEN. Do you have a backlog in the distribution or cataloging of the material ?

Mr. WELSH. Yes; on occasion we do, depnding usually on whether we have a full staff of catalogers with the necessary linguistic competence. For example we had a backlog in Sinhalese materials. We have a backlog in Indonesian materials, because we cannot get people with that language to finish the cataloging operation.

Mr. LANGEN. That is all.

Mr. WELSH. May I make one further comment? You asked about the evaluation of the program. I mentioned the day before yesterday that Dr. Mortimer Graves, for the American Council of Learned Societies, was making a survey. I had an opportunity to talk to him yesterday and he reported continued general favorable reaction to the program. He was one of the original founding fathers of the program and is currently engaged in evaluating it.

Mr. STEED. Mr. Andrews, do you have any question?

COORDINATION WITH USIA

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. Do you coordinate this operation of yours with USIA pretty closely?

Dr. MUMFORD. No, sir. There is no direct relationship. We have very cordial relations with USIA in places where they are located, but I do not believe there is any specific assistance given, is there, Mr. Welsh?

Mr. WELSH. No.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. But you are totally aware of what they are doing in the field and they are totally aware of what you are doing in the field?

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes. We are serving a different function, as you know. Their main function is to provide information to the people over there, partially through American books. Our main function is to bring the publication of the country over here for research and study.

Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. That is all.

COORDINATION WITH DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE

Mr. LANGEN. In that connection, what about the Department of Agriculture? They also have a substantial volume of material.

Dr. MUMFORD. Mr. Welsh, will you speak to the relationship with the Department of Agriculture?

Mr. WELSH. There has been no involvement as yet other than conversations we have had with personnel in the National Agricultural Library trying to work out some cooperative program where we can select material for them.

Dr. MUMFORD. And the same is true of the National Library of Medicine. · Mr. WELSH. Materials coming into the Library of Congress which

fall generally in the category of technical agriculture and those that fall generally in the category of technical medicine are routinely sent to the National Agriculture Library and to the National Library of Medicine as we have been doing for years. The Library of Congress does not try to collect in those areas.

Mr. STEED. Any further questions?
Mr. LANGEN. That is all.

ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS

Mr. STEED. We turn now to page 139 of the committee print, "Administrative Provisions."

Dr. Mumford, looking at pages 139 and 140 of the committee print there are several language authorities and provisions which have been carried for a number of years and which you propose be continued in 1969 without change.

The first one relates to expenses of investigating the loyalty of Library employees. What do you do under this authority, if any. thing, and what have you turned up in recent times?

Mr. MUMFORD. As a part of the general program of the Government each employee is checked as far as a national agency check is concerned. This means information the Civil Service Commission may have available or may obtain. If derogatory information regarding the employee is shown or developed, a further investigation may be initiated. This is a part of the general security program that was begun under President Truman and later was continued with some modification by President Eisenhower under Executive Order 10450.

Mr. STEED. What use do you make of the provisions for special and temporary services?

Dr. MUMFORD. This provision is used to employ specialists for temporary periods of time, such as nurses. We may have a nurse who works 4 hours in the evening and is not employed as a full-time régular employee. Sometimes it includes special technicians, where it is not viewed as a continuing position on a full-time basis.

Mr. STEED. To what extent do you use the services as authorized by 5 U.S.C. 3109 and what are the provisions as to payment under that provision ?

Dr. MUMFORD. This is authority to use occasionally the services of consultants and experts we may bring in for a day or two to advise us on a particular thing. It may be to advise us regarding the weaknesses or strength of a particular subject collection and what we need to do to improve it.

· Mr. STEED. You are authorized to employ not to exceed 10 aliens. To what extent does the Library make use of this authority?

Dr. MUMFORD. At the present time we have eight in this category. This provision was made originally to enable us to obtain aliens where we could not find citizens with the qualifications necessary. Usually they are in the linguistic field.

Mr. STEED. You also have a provision for reimbursing the State Department for medical services rendered to Library of Congress employees stationed abroad, which I assume is an administrative and facilitating provision. In addition to those engaged in the special foreign currency program, do you have any other employees involved in this? ... Dr. MUMFORD. Yes. We have some personnel abroad under title II c of the Higher Education Act. In this program we have made arrangements with the national bibliographies abroad to provide their cataloging so that we do not have to do the complete job of cataloging here in Washington, and in several places it has been necessary to have one American employee, but the total number is limited in both the Public Law 480 and the special foreign currency program. "Mr. STEED. In the matter of purchasing or hiring passenger motor vehicles, what is involved ?

Mr. Welsh. We have 16 overseas offices and utilize 11 vehicles in those offices, such as jeeps and small trucks, to pick up materials we are acquiring. It is usually necessary to pick up these materials.

Mr. STEED. Mr. Langen.
Mr. LANGEN. No questions.
Mr. STEED. Mr. Andrews.
Mr. ANDREWS of North Dakota. No questions.

Mr. STEED. Dr. Mumford, do you have any further comments you would like to make ?

Dr. MUMFORD. I would like to make one additional brief statement.

In recognition of the national fiscal situation we have tried to keep our requests to bare minimum. All of the items are urgently needed but I would like to emphasize there is the greatest need, in additions to the the mandatory increases, for moving forward on the third building by having the money for the final working drawings and specifications. As you know, this does not relate to construction.

The second item of top priority would be to be able to continue with our automation program, because this is our best hope of being able to control the vast volume of material which is being collected and to diseminate information about it.

Mr. STEED. Gentlemen, on behalf of the committee I want to express my appreciation for your cooperation.

Dr. MUMFORD. Mr. Chairman, for myself and my colleagues may I express my appreciation for your patience and attention.

AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIA'TION Mr. STEED. The subcommittee is in receipt of a letter from the American Library Association expressing support for certain fiscal 1969 budget items for the Library of Congress and the Government Printing Office, Superintendent of Documents. They ask that we incorporate the material in our hearings and, without objection, we will do that. (The material follows:)

AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION,

Chicago, Ill., April 25, 1968. Hon. GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Chairman, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch, House Committee on Appropria

tions, U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C. DEAR MR. ANDREWS: On behalf of the American Library Association, may I request that the attached statement be made a part of the record of the hearings being held currently by your Subcommittee on appropriations for the Legislative Branch for fiscal year 1969. Sincerely,

GERMAINE KRETTEK, Director, ALA Washington Office.

STATEMENT BY GERMAINE KRETTEK, ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AMERICAN

LIBRARY ASSOCIATION The American Library Association, an organization of over 39,000 librarians and laymen devoted to the devlopment of library services for this Nation, appreciates the opportunity to file a statement on the legislative branch appropriations for fiscal year 1969. The Association wishes to urge favorable consideration on three items: One, the Library of Congress budget requests; two, the $2.8 million item in the budget of the Architect of the Capitol to continue work on the James Madison Memorial Library of Congress Building; and three, ade quate funds for fiscal year 1969 to implement the requirements of the Depository Library Act of 1962.

The effective operation of the Library of Congress is of the utmost importance not only to the Congress but also to American libraries. The services of the Library of Congress to the Nation are innumerable, and, while the ALA stands behind the entire program of the Library, it would like to make special reference to certain of these national services.

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