Oberlin College Ohio State University Ohio University Ohio Wesleyan University TENNESSEE Fisk University Memphis State University TEXAS Baylor University East Texas State College Pubilc Library of Cincinnati and Hamil- Rice University ton County SOUTH CAROLINA University of South Carolina SOUTH DAKOTA Southern Methodist University Texas College of Arts and Industries Beloit College Marquette University Milwaukee Public Library University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee State College of Agriculture and Me- Wisconsin State College chanic Arts University of South Dakota WYOMING University of Wyoming ACCESSIBILITY TO MATERIALS, IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES Mr. YATES. Do you have any difficulty obtaining materials you want from foreign countries under this program? Dr. MUMFORD. Under this program we are able to collect rather comprehensively the important publications being issued in a particular country. If we did not have an office or personnel on the spot, as I was saying just previosuly, Mr. Yates, it would be extremely difficult and we would not obtain nearly as good coverage. Mr. YATES. I have had difficulty trying to obtain various things for civic purposes under this program. For example, the zoo in Chicago could use some animals from some of the countries where they have this counterpart fund program. I have not been able to work it out. That is why I inquired whether or not you have been turned down with respect to any materials that you sought to obtain from any of the countries. Dr. MUMFORD. No. There is a seection of Public Law 480, as amended, which gives specific authorization to the Library of Congress to use these funds to acquire books, periodicals, and newspapers to place in a limited number of research libraries in this country. I do not know whether there is any provision in the law that would cover the importation of animals for the zoo or if there are any funds available for that purpose. 1 Mr. YATES. Would that law permit you to obtain other things than books and papers? What about artifacts? Dr. MUMFORD. I do not think the law permits this in its present form. Mr. YATES. And reproductions of historical effects? Dr. MUMFORD. It does permit us to do microfilming, abstracting, or even translating although we have not undertaken that kind of activity. Mr. YATES. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Langen. OVERALL INCREASES FOR 1968 Mr. LANGEN. We have gone through so many figures that I do not know whether I have been able to follow you all the way through or not. It appears to me in the overall program there is an increase in the amount of U.S. dollars from the $130,509 to $224,870; is that correct? Mr. WELSH. Sir, would you repeat that again? Mr. LANGEN. $130,509 in fiscal 1967. Mr. WELSH. No, sir, in fiscal 1967, $185,200. Mr. LANGEN. What is the total request for this year? Dr. MUMFORD. $275,000, which is an increase of $89,800. Mr. LANGEN. On pages 218 and from there on, in each of the increases shown there, starting with "Ceylon, $30,000," what is the identity of those increases as to American dollars compared with soft currency? Mr. WELSH. On pages 218, 219, there are no increases in U.S. dollars. The increases on those pages are all in foreign currencies. Mr. LANGEN. All of those figures are foreign currencies? Mr. WELSH. Yes. On page 220, the increase of $89,800 represents the U.S. dollar increase for fiscal 1968. PROGRAM IN CEYLON Mr. LANGEN. I notice in relationship to these increases and beginning with Ceylon, that you intend to add six personnel, one American and five locals. Mr. WELSH. Six locals and one American. Mr. LANGEN. How long has this program been in operation there now under the India Office? Mr. WELSH. We have just recently begun that-a matter of 2 months. This has been in the nature of an exploration. The second in command in India went down to South India and Ceylon to explore the possibility of establishing a program. Mr. LANGEN. How many books have you got from Ceylon so far? Mr. WELSH. I do not have that specific figure. That is lumped in with the Indian receipts. May I add it for the record? Mr. LANGEN. Surely. (The information follows:) PUBLIC LAW 480 PROGRAMS-CEYLON Books actually received at the Library of Congress from Ceylon as of May 8, 1967 total 67 English titles. Additional English titles and all Singhalese titles procured to date are being held by the New Delhi Office for cataloging. AVERAGE UNIT PURCHASE PRICE Mr. LANGEN. As I recall from last year we had a rather comprehensive chart showing the amount of publications that we got from the respective countries and an average cost per volume of those books. Do you have such information now? Mr. WELSH. I have the average number of pieces but I do not have the Ceylon figure separately identified. Ceylon is part of the IndianPakistan program. Here is the chart we had last year. The current figure for each participating library show an average of 30,000 pieces for India; Indonesia, 18,000 pieces; Israel, 12,000; Pakistan, 7,000; and United Arab Republic, 9,000. Mr. LANGEN. They do not mean much unless we can compare them with last year's figures. Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. Mr. LANGEN. Also, the cost per volume. Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. We have a table from last year and we will update it. Mr. LANGEN. With regard to Poland, and I understand there is some real question as to whether there will be a program there or not even though it was authorized last year, what are the barriers that prevent the program from being started? Dr. MUMFORD. As I indicated to some degree the other day, Mr. Langen, I think it is a part of the general picture of how they expect to pay back this entire loan of some $500 million which is due in American dollars, in periodic payments from now until about the year 2000. They have indicated they were willing to consider this program separately. I think you know that they have made proposals to the American Government for various ways of expending the money that is owed to the United States. Most of these proposals, I believe, relate to internal improvements in Poland. I was in Poland in December and in talking to various officials of the Polish Government, as well as to the American Ambassador and his staff, there was a strong indication that they favored this program and would give it special consideration while awaiting resolution of the big problem. We have had word from the Minister of Finance that it had his approval and that it was being referred to the Minister of Culture. As I said earlier, we expect almost at any time to get an affirmative reply from that source. Mr. LANGEN. What did you have in mind when this language was put in here, an increase of $87,000 is requested for annualization of the program initiated in fiscal year 1967 to provide for six additional participants. Mr. WELSH. This was done in the fall of the year, sir, when we assumed we were going to get into Poland in early fiscal 1967. Mr. LANGEN. Fiscal 1967 started in July of last year. Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. Mr. LANGEN. If you were doing this, when did you say, DecemberMr. WELSH. No, sir; when we were preparing these estimates, which was in September and October, we assumed that we were going to be able to begin operation in Poland sometime immediately thereafter. Mr. LANGEN. What do you mean by annualization? Mr. WELSH. In fiscal 1967 we asked for funds to conduct the program for 9 months. The annualization would give authorization for a full year of the program during fiscal 1968. Mr. LANGEN. This amounts to quite a cycle of assumptions, does it not? Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. Mr. LANGEN. Starting from the very beginning, with a program even for fiscal 1967. As I recall the testimony before this committee |