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money expended? Are these collections being utilized? I wish you would discuss it.

Dr. MUMFORD. I certainly think so, Mr. Chairman, from the reports we have had from librarians and scholars in the research libraries into which these materials go. They are being used, and they would not be able to get any sizable percentage of them on their own.

By the Library's having a person on the spot to collect publications, to keep constant contact with the governmental agencies and with the private book dealers, we are able to obtain material which an individual institution would not be able to acquire certainly not as easily or nearly as completely as we have been able to do.

Mr. ANDREWS. What interest has been shown by the libraries of the United States in the materials they are able to get?

Dr. MUMFORD. Very strong interest, Mr. Chairman. In fact, we have more requests to participate in this program than we can satisfy, because the funds will permit only a limited number of participating institutions. We try to place the publications in institutions where there are special studies going on in respect to this particular area and where the materials are most needed and where they might have had a nucleus of materials on which to build.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are you increasing the volume of material you are getting in under this program?

Dr. MUMFORD. Only as the number of publications increase within the country. In some of these countries there is an increase in the amount of publication. We do not bring in everything. We are selective.

Mr. ANDREWS. That is the purpose of your man over there, to look over the material and select it.

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir. We confer with the librarians from the institutions that are receiving this material and try to limit materials. to the categories that they think will be very useful.

Mr. ANDREWS. Does your man in Pakistan, for instance, have the sole right to select what shall be purchased in Pakistan and sent back to this country?

Dr. MUMFORD. Within certain well-defined policy criteria. These criteria have been determined in consultation with the librarians here who are going to receive the material.

Mr. ANDREWS. Would you hazard a guess as to what the value of this material you are getting from overseas, sent to this country, would be worth in dollars and cents if you had to purchase it on the market? I mean with dollars.

Dr. MUMFORD. I think we might be able to make a rough estimate, Mr. Chariman. I would not attempt offhand to give a figure. Mr. ANDREWS. Put that in the record.

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Mr. ANDREWS. Are you sure you can get a man in Ceylon?
Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. When are you going to put him over there?

Mr. WELSH. Very shortly. We have had our man from India visit Ceylon and he received approval from the State Department and the local government to initiate the program.

INCREASE REQUESTED FOR THE CONGO

Mr. ANDREWS. The next is the Congo where you are requesting a total of $114,754, $94,000 of which will be in soft currency, $20,754 hard U.S. dollars. How much will that man be paid? How many men do you plan to have in the Congo?

Mr. WELSH. One American and 10 locals.

Mr. ANDREWS. What about the salary of the man for the Congo? Mr. WELSH. $13,833 for personal compensation plus $871 for personal benefits.

Mr. ANDREWS. What does that total?

Mr. WELSH. $14,754.

Mr. ANDREWS. Does that include his overseas differential?
Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. That is the total amount he will get.

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. There is a 25-percent overseas differential for the Congo.

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Mr. ANDREWS. But that is included in the $14,000 figure you gave

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. The balance of this money will be spent for transporting his furniture and so on.

Mr. WELSH. Yes. A sum of $6,000 is included for transportation of things.

Mr. ANDREWS. You do have camels in this program.

Mr. WELSH. We do, indeed. We have pictures of them.

PROGRAM IN INDIA

Mr. ANDREWS. We saw them last year. How many people do you have in India?

Mr. WELSH. In India at the moment we have 59 locals and two Americans.

Mr. ANDREWS. Do they get about the same salary and fringe benefits?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Would you say about $15,000 is the average salary that your overseas people get, including all fringe benefits?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. One of the biggest items you have is shipping his furniture over there?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. Incidentally, in India the second in command is a lower grade than the top man. But the average salary is $15,000,

VALUE OF A SPECIAL ACQUISITION PROGRAM

Mr. ANDREWS. Dr. Mumford, is this program of any value to the United States? Is the United States getting a good return for the

money expended? Are these collections being utilized? I wish you would discuss it.

Dr. MUMFORD. I certainly think so, Mr. Chairman, from the reports we have had from librarians and scholars in the research libraries into which these materials go. They are being used, and they would not be able to get any sizable percentage of them on their own.

By the Library's having a person on the spot to collect publications, to keep constant contact with the governmental agencies and with the private book dealers, we are able to obtain material which an individual institution would not be able to acquire certainly not as easily or nearly as completely as we have been able to do.

Mr. ANDREWS. What interest has been shown by the libraries of the United States in the materials they are able to get?

Dr. MUMFORD. Very strong interest, Mr. Chairman. In fact, we have more requests to participate in this program than we can satisfy, because the funds will permit only a limited number of participating institutions. We try to place the publications in institutions where there are special studies going on in respect to this particular area and where the materials are most needed and where they might have had a nucleus of materials on which to build.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are you increasing the volume of material you are getting in under this program?

Dr. MUMFORD. Only as the number of publications increase within the country. In some of these countries there is an increase in the amount of publication. We do not bring in everything. We are selective.

Mr. ANDREWS. That is the purpose of your man over there, to look over the material and select it.

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir. We confer with the librarians from the institutions that are receiving this material and try to limit materials to the categories that they think will be very useful.

Mr. ANDREWS. Does your man in Pakistan, for instance, have the sole right to select what shall be purchased in Pakistan and sent back to this country?

Dr. MUMFORD. Within certain well-defined policy criteria. These criteria have been determined in consultation with the librarians here who are going to receive the material.

Mr. ANDREWS. Would you hazard a guess as to what the value of this material you are getting from overseas, sent to this country, would be worth in dollars and cents if you had to purchase it on the market? I mean with dollars.

Dr. MUMFORD. I think we might be able to make a rough estimate, Mr. Chariman. I would not attempt offhand to give a figure. Mr. ANDREWS. Put that in the record.

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PUBLIC LAW 480 PROGRAMS

Total expenditures in U.S.-owned foreign currencies for publications for the Library of Congress and other U.S. research institutions

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Mr. ANDREWS. How many Americans are employed in this program! Mr. WELSH. There are 10 Americans at the present time. We are asking for three additional positions in our 1968 estimates. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Yates

AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS RECEIVING MATERIALS

Dr. MUMFORD. Mr. Chairman, may I interrupt at this moment? In order to show the value of this program throughout the country as a whole, I would like to request permission to put pages 222 through 231 in the record. This lists the institutions receiving both the foreign publications and the limited selection of materials in English. (The information follows:)

RECIPIENTS OF COMPREHENSIVE SETS OF PUBLICATIONS FROM THE VARIOUS COUNTRIES

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Cornell University

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California, University of (Berkeley)
California, University of (Los Angeles)

Columbia University

Harward University
Illinois, University of
Indiana University

Kansas, University of

Stanford University-Hoover Institution
Virginia, University of

Wisconsin, University of

Yale University

Hawaii, University of (East-West Cen. Washington, University of

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