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COLLECTION AND DISTRIBUTION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS, SPECIAL FOREIGN CURRENCY PROGRAM

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Bureau of the Budget note.-Indonesia is not on the announced list of excess currency countries for either 1967 or 1968.

Mr. ANDREWS. Let us turn to page 126 of the committee print, under 218 of the justification and take up "Collection and distribution of library materials, special foreign currency program." If you gentlemen will turn to page 241 you will see a breakdown of all the countries. We will insert that in the record at this point, just the grand totals. (The page follows:)

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REVISION OF BUDGET REQUEST FOR INDONESIA AND POLAND

Mr. ANDREWS. You are requesting $2,859,000 for fiscal 1968, an increase of $585,800, is that correct?

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. I believe this is the program mentioned in your opening statement that can be reduced some $270,000, is that correct, Dr. Mumford?

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWs. Where would the reductions occur?

Will you look at page 241?

Dr. MUMFORD. In the allocations to Indonesia and to Poland.

DOWNWARD REVISION OF ESTIMATE FOR INDONESIA

Mr. ANDREWS. Indonesia is shown here at what?

Dr. MUMFORD. $170,000.

Mr. ANDREWS. In soft currency? What would that be reduced?
Dr. MUMFORD. The full amount of $170,000.

Mr. ANDREWS. What about the hard currency for Indonesia shown on the table on page 241. Would that also be deleted?

Mr. WELSH. No, sir; it would not.

Mr. ANDREWS. Why not?

Mr. WELSH. We would need that sum to maintain the U.S. staff. We have one person there, a director, and we expect to continue the program using the foreign currency carried over from the previous

year.

Mr. ANDREWS. How much foreign currency carryover would you have?

Mr. WELSH. I do not have that figure, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Would you supply it for the record?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

(The information follows:)

Indonesia 12,501,918).

PUBLIC LAW 480 PROGRAMS-INDONESIA

carryover (unobligated) fiscal 1966: $131,599.14 (Nw. Rp.

Mr. ANDREWS. Why is this program being scratched?

Mr. WELSH. Excess foreign currencies are no longer available in Indonesia according to the Bureau of the Budget.

Dr. MUMFORD. However, as we indicated the other day there is an accumulation of funds that would enable us, we think, to operate an additional year there. We would need the hard dollars in order to do that.

As Mr. Welsh said, because excess currency is no longer available, we are not asking for additional foreign currency.

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Mr. ANDREWS. That could mean, and I assume should mean, program will wind up as far as Indonesia is concerned at the end of fiscal 1968?

Dr. MUMFORD. This is possible unless our Government makes some additional loan arrangements with the Indonesian Government.

Downward Revision of Estimate for Poland

Mr. ANDREWs. Where is the other $100,000 to be taken?
Dr. MUMFORD. From the amount allocated to Poland.

Mr. ANDREWS. On page 241 you show that you had requested $226,000 in soft currencies for Poland for fiscal year 1968. You say that should be reduced to $126,000.

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. That gives you a reduction of $270,000 in soft currency for this program in 1968.

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. How much, if any, reduction will there be in the hard currency which is shown to be $275,000 for this program?

Mr. WELSH. There might possibly be a reduction of $6,000 in the program for Poland.

Mr. ANDREWS. There might possibly be?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir. We have not as yet been able to establish a program there. If we are able to do so in the immediate future, we would need hard dollars to operate the program for a full year in 1968, but only a part of the hard dollars authorized for 1967. The hard dollars not needed in 1967 would be deposited in the Treasury.

Mr. ANDREWs. What is the reason for the request for $126.000 in soft currency for Poland if as of today you do not have a program over there?

Mr. WELSH. If we were to begin operating immediately, we would establish contractual arrangements for space, for the acquisition of materials, et cetera.

Mr. ANDREWS. Did you have a program there in 1967?

Mr. WELSH. No, sir.
Mr. ANDREWS. 1966?
Mr. WELSH. No, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. How long since you have had a program in Poland? Dr. MUMFORD. This is the first year it was authorized.

Mr. ANDREWS. You are not sure you get in there?

Dr. MUMFORD. No, sir; as I indicated the other day, we are waiting final word from the Minister of Culture in order to begin the program. We have had approval from the Minister of Finance, and we are hopeful that at almost any time now we will get word that we can go ahead.

Mr. ANDREWS. Let me ask you again, why did you cut the $100,000 from the soft currency budget request for Poland for 1968?

Mr. WELSH. Because, sir, we have moneys authorized in 1967 which would largely be unused in fiscal 1967. The $126,000 would enable us to operate for a full year next year, plus whatever small portion of this year remains.

Mr. ANDREWS. So, for this program which is designated as the special foreign currency program for the collection and distribution of library materials for the Library of Congress, you are requesting $2,314,000 in soft currency, and $275,000 in dollars.

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. With a possible cut of $6,000 in the hard-currency program, which would be $269,000 hard currency?

Mr. WELSH. May I amend that statement? The $6,000 cut is based on the assumption that we would be able to establish a program in Poland for a portion of this year. If we are unable to operate for any part of this year, then the amount would be cut further, both in hard dollars and foreign currency.

Mr. ANDREWS. The whole thing would be cut?

Mr. WELSH. Yes, sir; the unused amounts for 1967.

Mr. ANDREWS. $20,432 in dollars and the remaining $126,000 in soft

currency.

Mr. WELSH. No, sir; the $12,434 in hard dollars, and an additional $39,000 in soft currencies.

SUMMARY OF FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS

Mr. ANDREWS. Would you provide a record between the U.S. dollars requested and foreign currency? I believe we have that. Would insert pages 218 through 220 of the justifications?

(The pages follow:)

Collection and distribution of library materials (special foreign currency program), Library of Congress

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1. Ceylon. An increase of $30,000 is requested for annualization of program initiated in fiscal year 1967 and for operation of the program at an improved level.

2. India. No increase.

3. Indonesia.-No increase.

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6. Pakistan. An increase of $5,000 is requested for the purchase of additional English-language titles for 300 American libraries.

7. Poland. An increase of $87,000 is requested for annualization of program initiated in fiscal year 1967 and to provide for six additional participants.

8. United Arab Republic.--An increase of $15,000 is requested to provide for increased local salary costs, additional office space, and replacement of worn-out equipment.

9. Yugoslavia.-An increase of $87,000 is requested for annualization of program initiated in fiscal year 1967 and to provide for six additional participants. New programs requested

1. Congo.-Request is made for $94,000 to initiate a program for the purchase and bibliographic listing of publications.

2. Tunisia.-Request is made for $178,000 to initiate a program for the purchase and bibliographic listing of publications.

(NOTE. In each of the new program requests above, it is necessary to find suitable quarters including utility services, supplies and equipment, hire local staff, purchase books and library materials, ship these materials to the Library of Congress and other research libraries, and perform local travel in connection with the procurement of library materials.)

U.S. dollars. An increase of $89,800 is requested in U.S. Dollars. Included are salaries and incidental expenses for 2 new directors for the programs requested for 9 months (Congo and Tunisia) and a director for Ceylon which program was initiated in 1967. The balance of the request is for annualization of programs initiated in 1967 in Poland and Yugoslavia, transportation costs and equipment.

PROGRAM PLANS FOR 1968

Mr. ANDREWS. Describe program plans for 1968, in general, Dr. Mumford.

Dr. MUMFORD. In general, we plan to continue to operate in the countries in which we have been operating; namely, India, Pakistan, United Arab Republic, Indonesia, Israel, Ceylon, Yugoslavia, Nepal, and if we can go into Poland, we will do so.

NEW PROGRAMS (THE CONGO AND TUNISIA)

Mr. ANDREWS. What about the Congo?

Dr. MUMFORD. The Congo and Tunisia are two additional countries in which we are requesting that we be permitted to operate.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are they new countries?

Dr. MUMFORD. They would be new to this program, yes.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have not had a program in those countries prior to this time?

Dr. MUMFORD. No, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. What assurance do you have that you can get into the Congo and Tunisia?

Mr. WELSH. A staff member has been to Tunisia rather recently and it appears from his evaluation that we will be able to establish a program there.

We have a title II-C office established in Nairobi, Kenya, and we have learned from that source that we can successfully launch a program in the Congo.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are the countries of the Congo and Tunisia the only two, with the exception of Poland, that you do not have firm commitment to start a program?

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