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Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. ANDREWS. Rather than you ?
Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.

INCREASE FOR RENTAL OF EQUIPMENT

Mr. ANDREWS. You are requesting an increase of $2,500 for rental of equipment. GSA motor pool. What about this request; how many cars do you have now and how many do you plan for the future?

Mr. BERRY. Mr. Chairman, we now have through the motor pool three carryalls, four trucks, two station wagons, and one passenger car.

This fleet is used for moving books and staff within the city. For example, from the Library to the various Government buildings, the congressional office buildings, for providing shuttle service between the Library's building and the Navy Yard Annex, and for hauling equipment and materials from various places. The passenger car is used for passenger service throughout the city.

We feel that we need an additional vehicle to provide a shuttle seryice to the various rental spaces we have and to those we plan to obtain. We have already had to set up a shuttle service to this Taylor Street building.

Mr. ANDREWS. Will this additional $2,500 give you one additional car?

Mr. BERRY. It will give us one additional car or station wagon plus some funds to rent other vehicles occasionally when needed. This is one of the advantages of the motor pool that we mentioned to the committee 2 years ago. We could obtain either trucks or passenger vehicles for specific purposes. We have been participating in the Gorernment's program of using interagency motor pool cars for travel whenever there is a justified need for use of a motor vehicle.

Mr. ANDREWs. How much does General Services Administration charge you for the use of a car or truck ?

Mr. BERRY. The present charge for a standard passenger car is $2.10 a day plus $0.033 a mile. For a 3-ton van truck the charge is $3.60 a day and $0.10 a mile. It is a very reasonable change.

Mr. ANDREWS. Cheaper than owning?
Mr. BERRY. Definitely, sir.

INCREASE FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES AND GUARD UNIFORMS

Mr. ANDREWS. The next item is a request for a $9,000 increase for office supplies and guard uniforms. What is the base and total requested for 1968?

Mr. BERRY. Our base for office supplies is $45,000. We are asking for an additional $4,000 for office and housekeeping supplies. The base that we have for uniforms is $10,000. We are asking for an additional $5,000. This is needed because of the increase in uniform allowance provided in Public Law 89–504 and also to be able to provide some additional items of uniform issue which are needed foi guard service. There are some other staff in the Library that requir uniforms.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are your present guards well clothed and equipped ? Mr. BERRY. We feel that they are, but there is a continuing need for uniforms and related equipment. Mr. ANDREWS. How many new guards do you expect to have? Mr. BERRY. We are asking for three additional guard positions. Mr. ANDREWS. The Capitol Police representatives told us that they could clothe and equip a police officer, if I remember correctly, for $130 a year. Mr. BERRY. Per man? Mr. ANDREWS. Right. Mr. BERRY. We have never spent that amount. In the past we have stayed under $100. Now we are asking just up to $125. The increase is for uniforms for all our guards, not just the three additional.

Mr. ANDREWS. What will be the total number of guards?

Mr. BERRY. Eighty-five guards. We also have eight nurses and a number of elevator operators.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have 85 guards?
Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir.
Jr. ANDREWS. You want three more?
Mr. BERRY. Three more; yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Do those guards work 8-hour shifts around the clock?

Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir. A few work part time.
Jr. ANDREWS. Where are they stationed, outside or inside the build-

ing!

Mr. BERRY. Both. The majority are stationed inside. We do have some guards stationed outside during the day and evening.

Jr. ANDREWS. Are those guards dressed like Capitol Policemen? Mr. BERRY. Their uniforms are similar to the Metropolitan Police. There may be some slight difference in color of the uniforms from the Capitol Police.

jfr. ANDREWS. They are dressed as police officers? Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir; in police uniforms. Mr. ANDREWS. Are any of these guards used at your rental properties?

Jr. BERRY. We have provided guard service at the Taylor Street building because the GSĀ was not able to provide men there. We have set up a guardpost there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Mr. ANDREWS. I believe you told us earlier that GSA furnished you guards at the Navy Annex? Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. What is the salary of these guards? Mr. BERRY. I would have to provide that for the record. (The information follows:)

GUARD SERVICE FOR LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AT NAVY YARD ANNEX The Library of Congress reimburses the General Services Administration for qart service at buildings 159 and 159E at the Navy Yard Annex. Three guard posts are maintained : one 24-hour, 7 day station, and two guard stations each for 40 hours, 5 days. Additional hours are charged for reliefs and overtime. The Library is billed by the General Services Administration at the rate of $4.15 for arh regular hour. We are informed that GSA guards are classified at GS-2 and GS 3.

Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. ANDREWS. Rather than you?
Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.

INCREASE FOR RENTAL OF EQUIPMENT Mr. ANDREWS. You are requesting an increase of $2,500 for rental of equipment. GSA motor pool. What about this request; how many cars do you have now and how many do you plan for the future?

Mr. BERRY. Mr. Chairman, we now have through the motor pool three carryalls, four trucks, two station wagons, and one passenger car.

This fleet is used for moving books and staff within the city. For example, from the Library to the various Government buildings, the congressional office buildings, for providing shuttle service between the Library's building and the Navy Yard Annex, and for hauling equipment and materials from various places. The passenger car is used for passenger service throughout the city.

We feel that we need an additional vehicle to provide a shuttle service to the various rental spaces we have and to those we plan to obtain. We have already had to set up a shuttle service to this Taylor Street building.

Mr. ANDREWS. Will this additional $2,500 give you one additional car?

Mr. BERRY. It will give us one additional car or station wagon plus some funds to rent other vehicles occasionally when needed. This is one of the advantages of the motor pool that we mentioned to the committee 2 years ago. We could obtain either trucks or passenger vehicles for specific purposes. We have been participating in the Gorernment's program of using interagency motor pool cars for travel whenever there is a justified need for use of a motor vehicle.

Mr. ANDREWS. How much does General Services Administration charge you for the use of a car or truck?

Mr. BERRY. The present charge for a standard passenger car is $2.10 a day plus $0.033 a mile. For a 3-ton van truck the charge is $3.60 a day and $0.10 a mile. It is a very reasonable change.

Mr. ANDREWS. Cheaper than owning?
Mr. BERRY. Definitely, sir.

INCREASE FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES AND GUARD UNIFORMS

Mr. ANDREWs. The next item is a request for a $9,000 increase for office supplies and guard uniforms. What is the base and total re. quested for 1968 ?

Mr. BERRY. Our base for office supplies is $45,000. We are asking for an additional $4,000 for office and housekeeping supplies. The base that we have for uniforms is $10,000. We are asking for an additional $5,000. This is needed because of the increase in uniform allowance provided in Public Law 89-504 and also to be able to provide some additional items of uniform issue which are needed for guard service. There are some other staff in the Library that require uniforms.

How many ner three additional en told us that they

Mr. ANDREWS. Are your present guards well clothed and equipped ?

Mr. BERRY. We feel that they are, but there is a continuing need for uniforms and related equipment. Mr. ANDREWS. How many new guards do you expect to have? Mr. BERRY. We are asking for three additional guard positions.

Mr. ANDREWS. The Capitol Police representatives told us that they could clothe and equip a police officer, if I remember correctly, for $130 a year. Mr. BERRY. Per man? Mr. ANDREWS. Right.

Mr. BERRY. We have never spent that amount. In the past we have stayed under $100. Now we are asking just up to $125. The increase is for uniforms for all our guards, not just the three additional. Mr. ANDREWS. What will be the total number of guards?

Mr. BERRY. Eighty-five guards. We also have eight nurses and a number of elevator operators.

Mr. ANDREWS. You have 85 guards?
Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir.
Mr. ANDREWS. You want three more?
Mr. BERRY. Three more; yes, sir.

Mr. ANDREWS. Do those guards work 8-hour shifts around the clock?

Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir. A few work part time.
Mr. ANDREWS. Where are they stationed, outside or inside the build-

ing?

Mr. BERRY. Both. The majority are stationed inside. We do have some guards stationed outside during the day and evening.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are those guards dressed like Capitol Policemen? Mr. BERRY. Their uniforms are similar to the Metropolitan Police. There may be some slight difference in color of the uniforms from the Capitol Police.

Ír. ANDREWS. They are dressed as police officers?
Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir; in police uniforms.

Mr. ANDREWS. Are any of these guards used at your rental properties?

Jr. BERRY. We have provided guard service at the Taylor Street building because the GSA was not able to provide men there. We have set up a guardpost there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Mr. ANDREWS. I believe you told us earlier that GSA furnished you guards at the Navy Annex? Jr. BERRY. Yes, sir. Mr. ANDREWS. What is the salary of these guards? Mr. BERRY. I would have to provide that for the record. (The information follows:)

GUARD SERVICE FOR LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AT NAVY YARD ANNEX

The Library of Congress reimburses the General Services Administration for car service at buildings 159 and 159E at the Navy Yard Annex. Three guard posts are maintained: one 24-hour, 7 day station, and two guard stations each for $0 hours. 5 days. Additional hours are charged for reliefs and overtime. The Library is billed by the General Services Administration at the rate of $4.15 for art regular hour. We are informed that GSA guards are classified at GS-2 and GS3.

Mr. ANDREWS. Do you have difficulty in recruiting guards? Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir, we do have some difficulty in recruiting guards. Mr. ANDREWS. I wish you would provide for the record a breakdown of the items included in this request. Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir. (The information follows:)

OFFICE SUPPLIES AND UNIFORMS

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Office supplies Base for 1967.

$45, 000 Increase requested for 1968_---

- 4,000 Total.

------- 49,000 Increased staff and increased prices make it necessary to request an additional $4,000 (9%) for office and housecleaning supplies.

Uniforms (guards and nurses) Base for 1967-

$10,000 Increase requested for 1968.-

5,000

15, 000 The uniform alowance was increased to $125 per employee by the 1966 Pay Act (P.L. 89-504). Based on recent experience it has been determined that 105 uniform sets are required annually for replacement of old uniforms and for uniforms for new appointees, of $13,125. There are budgeted positions for 75 guards and 5 nurses, but an additional 10 guards and 4 nurses are employed on a temporary basis. Furthermore, employment turnover requires that additional uniforms be available. Uniforms for guards include: trousers (both summer and winter weight), shirts (both summer and winter), blouses, caps, belts, ties, overcoats (limited number).

It is also necessary to purchase and maintain a stock of auxiliary items of equipment, such as side arms, ammunition, and special foul weather gear, which are not considered as basic uniform issue. This cost is estimated at $1,925.

Total

INCREASE FOR PRESERVATION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS

Mr. ANDREWS. Next is your request for an increase of $275,000 for the preservation of library materials. We will consider first the preservation of motion pictures. You are requesting $100,000 for this item, double the amount of the past 4 years. This was previously carried as a separate appropriation. Why the change?

Give us a status report on this project and what is anticipated next year?

Dr. MUMFORD. As I indicated yesterday, Mr. Chairman, our purpose here is by technical transfer to combine all of our preservation activities in one package under the general appropriation, “Library of Congress, Salaries and Expenses."

The preservation of motion pictures was carried in a separate appropriation before. The $50,000 increase is requested for the purpose of meeting the additional expenses that are involved in the conversion of these motion pictures from nitrate film to safety film. There are two or three factors involved. Laboratory charges have increased up to 32 percent in the past year. In the early phases of the program we were able to supplement the appropriated funds with over 3,750,000 feet of replacement film obtained through exchange or gift arrangements. We have nearly exhausted these inexpensive replacement sources. Now, we must rely principally on a conversion program of our own.

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