Mr. HARE. Just one more question. You said you were getting a great many demands from labor commissioners for this program that you intend to inaugurate with reference to accidents. Is this a new request on the part of these commissioners, or is it one of long standing?

Mr. HINRICHS. It is relatively new. It was tending to develop before the war, was interrupted I think during the war and hit us very hard during this last year.

Mr. HARE. Senator Neely, have you any questions?

Mr. NEELY. I have a few questions.

Mr. KEEFE. Senator, would you be good enough to yield to me at this point, in order to get this information in the proper place in the record?

Mr. NEELY. Yes.

RELATIONSHIP WITH LABOR MARKET INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS

SERVICE, USES

Mr. KEEFE. Reference has been made to the Employment Service and I call your attention to the fact that we have before us the justifications for the United States Employment Service, which is Nationwide and has offices scattered all over the United States, maintaining a central office here in the District of Columbia. We have before us the types and character of the employees of that service and the work that they are doing. They have listed here the following program as the responsibilities of the United States Employment Service and No. 5 is as follows: "Labor Market Information and Analysis Service."

Then they go on and state what the function of the Employment Service is, namely—and I am quoting from their justification:

Through labor market analysis and dissemination of labor market information, trends and service to workers, employers and the general public by keeping them informed of jobs and opportunities available for workers and the trend and status of labor market developments.

That is the justification for the USES, with a whole raft of analysts and labor specialists, and so forth, for which service they are asking an appropriation here.

It seems to me that we ought to be able to find some line of demarcation between the character of the work which you have been describing, Mr. Hinrichs, as performed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and this work which is described as justification for an appropriation for the United States Employment Service. The language is almost identical, that you have used, with that which is used to justify the appropriation for the Employment Service.

Mr. HINRICHS. Mr. Keefe, you will pardon me, of course, if I do not justify the Employment Service program. I would like to say that the first thing that the Secretary of Labor did when the Employment Service was brought into the Department of Labor was to say to us administrative officials

I want a single statistical program for the Department of Labor. I want specifically that there shall be no question of duplication between the work of the Employment Service and the work of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. There should be none.

Mr. KEEFE. Let me ask you if, as a matter of fact, the United States Employment Service is maintaining a division not only in the field, to analyze the local labor situation and statistical information, but which is funneled finally down here to Washington to a central office, where it is analyzed and put together, to give labor information on opportunities and the labor market and all that sort of thing, would it not impress the average, sound individual, if there was such a program, that there was duplication?

Mr. HINRICHS. I think not.

Mr. KEEFE. That is an answer to my question.

Mr. HARE. That answers it.

Mr. HINRICHS. Let me answer your question

Mr. KEEFE. I think that answers it, when you say you think not. Mr. HINRICHS. The Employment Service is not engaged in the collection of a systematic series of reports from employers with reference to employment as a cross section of the situation in a city. You do not want the Employment Service agents running out to employers and collecting statistics. You want the Employment Service to discover an employer's need and to fill that need. You want the Employment Service to service the man who wants a job.

It is our job in connection with the work that the Employment Service proposes to do, to tell the Employment Service from a good cross section of employers within each area what is happening each month to employment. I could carry on the functions that the Employment Service is proposing to carry out without having any statis tical report whatsoever in my hands beyond the background statistical totals that we will furnish them in 72 areas. I understand that the Employment Service does not propose to gather statistical reports but rather to get a sense of what is going on in the community.

Mr. KEEFE. Well, they have an awful lot of high-pressure, highsalaried men who are engaged in that activity, and if that is so, they are doing it to no purpose.

Mr. HINRICHS. You talk of that material being funneled back to Washington. The national summary on the employment situation that appears each month in the Employment Service publications is written for the Employment Service by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and printed by them. That is one of the services we are rendering and it is one of the advantages of having an integrated Department of Labor. We are drawing from the Employment Service and from these local reports their sense of what is going on, their sense of the trends, in various communities.

Mr. KEEFE. Then am I to understand that you use the information that is assembled in the local offices of the Employment Service and in its regional office, that is prepared by those analysts and economists, and what have you, and that comes down here and is turned over to you, and you then prepare the report which is issued by the Employment Service?

Mr. HINRICHS. No.

Mr. KEEFE. Then what am I to understand?

Mr. HINRICHS. We do not receive a single one of our statistical report forms from the Employment Service. What we do get from the Employment Service from their reports is their first-hand sense of important local developments. We are able to use those reports

from the Employment Service to give balance to our judgment of what is happening on the national scene. There is an enormous advantage in bringing together the national outlook and the local outlook. But the actual report that we prepare each month for the Employment Service is prepared from all of the materials that are available in the country on the national employment outlook. We include, in a single report, an analysis of our own employment data, of the unemployment compensation figures, the placement figures of employment offices and whatever can be learned about employment from production figures. The whole story is told in there from whatever source it can be derived.

A similar but confidential report is prepared by us each week for the Secretary and biweekly for his report to the President and Cabinet. Mr. KEEFE. I am sorry I interrupted you, Senator.

ESTIMATES, FISCAL YEAR 1947

Mr. NEELY. Doctor, it appears that your first request was for an increase over last year's appropriation of $859,004 and that later you submitted a supplemental request for $620,400 more. Those two sums amount to $1,479,404. That sum is augmented by virtue of the Ramspeck law by $41,186 which makes a total increase of $1,520,590 above what you had for the last year. In my opinion it would promote the welfare of your request if you would make a concise, clear statement of what you expect to give the taxpayers in return for that sum, if it is allowed.

Mr. HARE. May I interrupt you, Senator? I think in order that he may be able to answer your question intelligently and factually, we will insert the two pages at this point, pages 76 and 77. (The matter referred to is as follows:)