Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Were you given any disability rating at that time? Mr. DUNSTALL. He told me I was getting 25 per cent disability. Mr. TOWNER. Had you been getting from the War Risk Bureau any pay, any monthly payments? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir; I have not received anything from them yet. Mr. TOWNER. You never have received any money from them at all? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. When did you make application and where were you when you made the application for training? Mr. DUNSTALL. The same address in Cranford, N. J. Mr. TOWNER. Did you send a letter to the New York office or something of that sort? Mr. DUNSTALL. No; I went around to see them. Mr. TOWNER. You went down to New York to see them? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Had you been discharged then? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. You had your discharge, had you? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Did they examine you there before the Vocational Board? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Physicians examined you again? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. They gave you a section 2 rating, did they? That is, they stated you were entitled to training and also to compensation? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Have you been getting that compensation? Mr. DUNSTALL. I have not been getting anything from the Government; only the school. All I got was that two weeks' schooling. Mr. TOWNER. You have not been getting any compensation at all? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Did they fix your compensation, or tell you how much you were going to receive? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir; I was to get $80 a month. I got a letter stating that the 4th of October. Mr. TOWNER. And you have never got that or any part of it? Mr. TOWNER. You have never received a cent of money from the Government since you returned from France? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Neither from the War Risk Bureau or the Vocational Board? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. This training that you received was not satisfactory, as I understood you? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. Did you report the fact that it was not satisfactory to the board there in New York City? Mr. DUNSTALL. No; I never did go down there. Mr. TOWNER. Why didn't you go there? Mr. DUNSTALL. I just got disgusted. Mr. TOWNER. As I understand it, then, you went out and tried to get some employment on your own responsibility? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. You did find a place where you had employment? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes; I was working two or three days a week and had to quit; I was working on a job near Cranford and working two or three days a week and quit because I could not stand it-cold. Mr. TOWNER. Have you any employment now? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. So far as you know, you can not carry on in your present condition and with your present training you can not maintain yourself and are not able to earn a living? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. And still you say that you could get no help from the board, the war risk, or anybody? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. TOWNER. So far as you know, there is nobody taking any interest in your case? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Well, the American Legion. Mr. VESTAL. The American Legion? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. TOWNER. What had the boys been doing for you? Mr. DUNSTALL. I come down to see them and they told me where to go to send word to Washington and they had places for me. Mr. TOWNER. But it has not brought any results yet? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. BRAND. Do you know why you have not received your pay? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. BRAND. But you know you are entitled to it? Mr. DUNSTALL. They told me in a couple letters I was to get $80 a month, the day I was discharged. Mr. BRAND. But you have not had any money? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. BRAND. What do you think you can do in your conditionwhat sort of business? Mr. DUNSTALL. I do not know sir. Mr. BRAND. You were a farmer before you were in the service? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. BRAND. Can you follow that occupation? Mr. DUNSTALL. I went out on the farm when I was discharged and could not stand it. Mr. BRAND. What is it you would like to do? Do you have any preference as to what you would like to train for? Mr. DUNSTALL. I never did find out what would be the best thing. Mr. BRAND. You have not decided what would be best for yourself? Mr. DUNSTALL. No. Mr. BRAND. You have not given up all hope and ambition in life, have you? Mr. DUNSTALL. Pretty near. Mr. BRAND. Do you suffer from your affliction? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir: when it gets cold it bothers sometimes. Mr. BRAND. Are you a single man? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. BRAND. How in the world have you been living, with no employment and getting no money from the Government? Mr. DUNSTALL. I have been boarding with people, but I have not paid yet. Mr. BRAND. Uncle Sam is a bad paymaster. I have no further questions. Mr. DALLINGER. When did you enlist? Mr. DUNSTALL. February 28, 1918. Mr. DALLINGER. With what outfit did you enlist? Mr. DUNSTALL. The Forty-ninth New York, Camp Merritt. Mr. DALLINGER. When did you go across? Mr. DUNSTALL. I went across in April. 1918. Mr. DALLINGER. What engagements did your regiment take part in? Mr. DUNSTALL. In the Toul sector and in the Argonne. Mr. DALLINGER. Where were you wounded? Mr. DUNSTALL. Argonne Forest. Mr. DALLINGER. What was the nature, if you can tell us, of this wound in your leg? Mr. DUNSTALL. It blew part of my leg off. Mr DALLINGER A shell? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. About what time was that? Mr. DUNSTALL. About 2 o'clock in the afternoon-Tuesday after noon. Mr. DALLINGER. What date? Mr. DUNSTALL. October 8, 1918. Mr. DALLINGER. You were taken to the hospital over there? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. How long were you in the hospital there? Mr. DUNSTALL. In France I was in the field hospital a couple of days and they transferred me to another hospital; I do not know the name of it, Vichy and Brest. Mr. DALLINGER. When were you brought home? Mr. DUNSTALL. I was brought home on Christmas Eve. Mr. DALLINGER. You have already testified to the hospitals where you were treated in this country? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Will you tell the committee, Mr. Dunstall, a little oore in detail of your first visit to the vocational board office in New York City? I think you told us the date; what was the date? Mr. DUNSTALL. About a week after I got out of the Army, after I was discharged from the Army. Mr. DALLINGER. That was in March, 1919? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Had anybody told you anything about this vocational training while you were in the hospital? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir; there were two fellows who came around the place to tell us. Mr. DALLINGER. In what hospital was that? Mr. DUNSTALL. Fort McHenry. Mr. DALLINGER. That was the third hospital you were in? Mr. DUNSTALL. Over in this country. Mr. DALLINGER. While you were in the hospital at Fort McHenry, two agents of the vocational board came to see you? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Do you remember their names? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir; I do not. Mr. DALLINGER. Did they talk to you in regard to what you would like to do? Mr. DUNSTALL. No; they told us that a fellow outside could take up whatever he thought he could do best that he would like. Mr. DALLINGER. But they did not ask you what you would prefer to do? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Did they ask you anything about your previous training or your previous education? Mr. DUNSTALL. They asked me what schooling I had and all that. Mr. DALLINGER. Did they tell you, either of those agents of the vocational board, or give you any suggestion or instruction as to when or where to call when you got out of the hospital? Mr. DUNSTALL. They told us we could take up that training. Mr. DUNSTALL. No; they told us to go to the nearest place where you live, the nearest place to your home. Mr. DALLINGER. When you were finally discharged from the hospital, where did you go? Mr. DUNSTALL. I went to Jersey City. Mr. DALLINGER. Was there an officer from the Vocational Board there? Mr. DUNSTALL. No, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. How did you happen to go to the office in New York? Mr. DUNSTALL. I asked the Red Cross. Mr. DALLINGER. Nobody ever told you except the information you got from the Red Cross about where to apply for your training; is that right? Mr. DUNSTALL. Not after I got out of the Army. Mr. DALLINGER. No suggestion was ever made to you as to where you could apply for this training until you went to the Red Cross? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. And they told you to go to this place in New York City? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. What was the date you went to the office in New York the first time? Mr. DUNSTALL. About a week after I got my discharge. Mr. DALLINGER. In March? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. As near as you can place it, was it in the early or the middle part of March? Mr. DUNSTALL. Around the 16th or 17th. Mr. DALLINGER. About the 16th or 17th of March? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. VESTAL. You say you were discharged in October? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. VESTAL. Then it was not in March you went to the board; it was in October. Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes; October. The CHAIRMAN. I think he stated he was wounded on the 8th of October in France and did not get over here until Christmas? Mr. DUNSTALL. I was discharged October 3. Mr. TOWNER. Nearly a year afterwards, and most of the time you spent in the hospital in this country before your discharge. Mr. DALLINGER. As I understand his testimony, he was wounded in October, 1918, in the Argonne Forest, and discharged in October, 1919, from Fort McHenry. Mr. BRAND. He said March 8 the first time. Mr. VESTAL. That is what he said. Mr. DALLINGER. I think you probably were a little confused about it. You were discharged at Fort McHenry in 1919, a year after you were wounded, and you then went to Jersey City in 1919, and the Red Cross told you about going over to this office in New York City of the Vocational Board. Is that right? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. It was sometime in October, 1919, the first time you went to the board? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Will you tell the committee a little more in detail what happened the first time you went to the board's office when you first went in? Mr. DUNSTALL. I went upstairs and had to wait hours, four or five hours. Mr. DALLINGER. You had to stay in the room four or five hours before anybody spoke to you? Mr. DUNSTALL. They took me to the desk. Mr. DALLINGER. Who took you up to the desk? Mr. DUNSTALL. A fellow at the desk, some head fellow, I do not know his name. Mr. DALLINGER. What happened when you first went into this office: did anybody come to meet you or say anything to you? Mr. DUNSTALL. No; I had to go up to the desk. The CHAIRMAN. To register? Mr. DALLINGER. What did the man at the desk say to you? Mr. DUNSTALL. He asked me what I wanted and I told him. Mr. DALLINGER. You told him that you wanted training? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. Mr. DALLINGER. Then what did he do? Mr. DUNSTALL. He put me down on a piece of paper and said I would have to wait. Mr. DALLINGER. Were you suffering then from the wound in your leg? Mr. DUNSTALL. It bothers me when it gets wet. Mr. DALLINGER. It did not bother you at that time? Mr. DUNSTALL. Yes, sir. |