Mr. BATES. We had some others with that 10 million figure in here. Is that the same figure? Mr. KITCHIN. Page 27. Mr. BATES. It costs $143,000 for the same number of B. t. u.'s. Mr. BATES. What General SHULER. This one has a $25,000 outside utility cost. I will have to look and see what the other one has. But in addition, you would have some cost differential, Mr. Bates, depending on the area in which it would be constructed. Fort Eustis, Va., wouldn't necessarily compare with Fort Huachuca, Ariz., where the cost differentials would be, I think, material. Mr. BATES. Well, except the other one was pretty consistent with Huachuca. Mr. BECKER. Page 27. General SHULER. Of course, sir, estimates are made by architect engineers employed by the Corps of Engineers and reviewed, and this is the best estimate the Corps of Engineers can make on this particular installation. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection. Mr. BATES. Wait a minute. Let's take Huachuca. This is the same price because I compared it before with Baltimore. General SHULER. Baltimore? Mr. BATES. $147,000. What is the additional capacity to require 12 million? What is the 12 million? General SHULER. Which page are you on? Mr. BATES. Let's go back to page 22. Now, 12 million is the additional capacity required and the new authorization requested is 10 million. General SHULER. All right. What that means, sir, is that you need in the future for other heating plants, for the additional barracks needed, 12 million B. t. u. Mr. BATES. All right. General SHULER. The need for the present barracks we are requesting is 10 million B. t. u.'s. Mr. BATES. All right. So you are asking for 10 million B. t. u.'s and that is 147,000; 143,000 at Huachuca; and here at Newport News, it is 170,000, compared to 143 at Baltimore. That is a difference of $30,000. General SHULER. Sir, the difference is simply in the outside utilities and the area in which the construction is estimated. We can't have all these cost the same thing because of these factors. Mr. BATES. I understand that. General SHULER. I think that is close enough, sir, considering those factors. Mr. BATES. I General SHULER. I assure the chairman and this committee that all of these estimates are the best estimates the Corps of Engineers can come up with. I think that is a great improvement over many years ago when we weren't getting these preliminary plans and these preliminary budget estimates in this fashion. Mr. BATES. That is right. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much. Go ahead. The next-without objection, it is approved. The next item is Fitzsimons Army Hospital. Mr. KELLEHER. Mr. Chairman, if you would like to go through the housing, as you decided, very quickly? The CHAIRMAN. Go through the housing. A great many of them we approved. Mr. KELLEHER. Page 40. Oakland Army Terminal, 88 Capehart houses, already cleared by the committee. General SHULER. Oakland Army Terminal, Calif.: Transportation installation located at Oakland; initially occupied in 1940; designated "permanent." Mission: To plan for and accomplish movement of personnel and material within movement programs as assigned by commanding general, Pacific Transportation Terminal Command; to regulate and control surface movement of Army and Air Force personnel and cargo; to book programed cargo with Military Supply Transport Service or Military Air Transport Service; to perform outport operations along Pacific coasts of California, Mexico, South and Central America; to train military units, military personnel, and civilian personnel assigned or attached to terminal; to furnish administrative and/or logistical support to external agencies as directed; to process Department of the Army and Department of Air Force civilians, foreign nationals, and dependents. Total cost (based on price when acquired), $35,804,148. Cost of improvements (permanent and other), $33,848,636. Present strength: Military, 1,268; civilian employees, 2,465. Line items requested for fiscal year 1959 authorization ($0): 88 family quarters (Capehart). Detailed justification follows: Eighty-eight family quarters (Capehart) ($0): This project is required to provide an increment of the permanent family housing for officers and enlisted personnel assigned to this station. In addition to existing permanent facilities there are 88 substandard units located on the post which are currently occupied, These units are converted World War II barracks; 80 of these units are located on leased land which costs $34,717 annually. The proposed housing will be constructed on Government-owned land. No adequate offpost housing is available near the terminal since the area is highly industrialized. Number of units: Requested by Army: 88. Approved by OSD: 88. Estimated cost: $1,452,000. Authorization: Public Law 1020, 84th Congress. Current assets: Requirements (based on long-range troop strength): Officers and upper-grade enlisted men_ Lower-grade enlisted--. Total 288 34 0 322 The construction of this project will enable the Department of the Army to provide 61 percent of the maximum gross housing requirement based on the long-range troop forecast. The CHAIRMAN. Get to your next item. Mr. HARDY. Mr. Chairman, this thing here I am not going to belabor this point at this time. But some time or other, before this bill is finally approved, I want more justification on this housing than we are going to get in this fashion. Now, you come here-just taking a look at this one right now. That is The CHAIRMAN. It has already been approved. It has been approved. This one was approved by the subcommittee. what he just stated. Mr. HARDY. This one has been approved by the subcommittee? Mr. KELLEHER. Yes, sir, it has. The CHAIRMAN. It has been approved by the subcommittee, Mr. Hardy. Mr. KELLEHER. Previously. Mr. HARDY. The point I am trying to make right at the moment is there is going to need to be some justification submitted on these projects, and somebody ought to take a look at them. I am not suggesting The CHAIRMAN. When pages 8 and 9 are reached in the bill, then we will have designated those that have heretofore been approved and those that have not been approved. Then we will try to get sufficient information in regard to all that have not been approved for the committee to act on. Mr. HARDY. One of the things that has bothered some of us on the subcommittee all the way along is the basis for which the determination, the basis on which the numbers required are determined. And actually, sometimes I think they take them out of the hat, or either that they are a whole lot bigger than Mr. McElroy is going to let you have. You are going to get a further reduction, and you will not need them. The CHAIRMAN. The next item is Fort Devens, Mass. Mr. KELLEHER. We still have William Beaumont Army Hospital, page 43. 125 family quarters, already cleared. There are no Wherry housing units at that installation. General SHULER. Mr. Chairman, may I make a statement on this family housing? The CHAIRMAN. Do you not think it would be proper to make it when we get to that section? General SHULER. I mean just a general, very short statement. General SHULER. I believe it is important. The full justification for every one of these housing projects is printed on a page in the books that the committee has. They are the second and third books I referred to. All of that information will be made a part of the record, sir, and will be the justification for the family quarters. Mr. HARDY. General, if I might interrupt, it doesn't make a bit of difference if it is made a part of the record if nobody on the committee analyzes it. That is the thing I am talking about. I am not suggesting that you don't have some support for it in the book here, but if we simply turn pages, we are not doing anything in the world but giving lipservice to what somebody over in the Pentagon has done. General SHULER. Yes, sir. Mr. HARDY. I am tired of doing that. The CHAIRMAN. All right. Let's get down to the First Army area. Mr. KELLEHER. We have the Medical Corps, Fitzsimons Army Hospital, Denver, Colo. The CHAIRMAN. We passed that. Mr. KELLEHER. Not yet. Troop housing, $862,000. It appears on page 44 of the book. The items are: An enlisted men's barracks, without mess, $733,000. An administration and supply building, $129,000. General SHULER. Fitzsimons Army Hospital, Colo.: Medical installation located 2 miles east of Denver; initially occupied in 1918; designated "permanent." Mission: The operation of a medical treatment facility designated as a specialized treatment center with specialties as designated by the Surgeon General, operates a professional teaching program and special research facilities. Conducts medical research and trains medical personnel and General Reserve units as directed by the Surgeon General. Total cost (based on price when acquired), $20,025,540. Cost of improvements (permanent and other) $20,008,940. Present strength: Military, 1,868; civilian employees, 1,146. Line items requested for Fiscal Year 1959 authorization ($862,000 total); Enlisted Men barracks without mess (medical). Detailed justification follows: EM barracks without mess ($733,000): This project is required to provide an increment of barracks for permanent housing for the peacetime mission. The existing facilities are comprised of 32 modified, emergency buildings, 3 are hollow tile, stucco walls, with interior wood framing, 29 are wood-frame buildings. The wood-frame buildings were constructed in 1941-42 on a strictly temporary basis and maintenance costs after 16 years of use is excessive and cannot be justified. If permanent barracks are not provided it will adversely affect the morale and welfare of enlisted personnel, will necessitate the continued expenditure of repair and maintenance funds on the upkeep and will require complete rehabilitation of these molilization type buildings. Twenty-seven buildings will be removed. The remainder will be retained for mobilization use. Administration and supply building, two company ($129,000): The item is required to support the 326-man barracks in this program. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the hospital is approved. Now, First Army area, Fort Devens, Mass. Mr. KELLEHER. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. That is page Mr. KELLEHER. Forty-seven, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Forty-seven. Mr. KELLEHER (reading): Fort Devens, Mass.: Operational and training facilities, $171,000. The item is two Trainfire ranges-this is a new type of item in the bill and never has appeared before. I suggest the General explain it. General SHULER. Fort Devens, Mass.: First Army; installation located 35 miles west of Boston; initially occupied in 1917; designated "permanent." Mission: Responsible for the command, training and operations, and to provide administrative and logistical support for class I and II units and activities assigned or attached to Fort Devens and for its subinstallations, Camp Wellfleet and Fort Banks. Total cost (based on price when acquired), $46,174,783. Cost of improvements (permanent and other), $45,522,303. Present strength: Military, 13,149; civilian employees, 1,326. Line items requested for fiscal year 1959 authorization ($171,000): two Trainfire I ranges. Detailed justification follows: Two Trainfire I ranges ($171,000): Trainfire I has been adopted as the new basic rifle course by the Army. This project will provide for essential training facilities required for rifle înstruction based on this new training concept. Facilities which are outmoded by Trainfire I are currently being utilized. No facilities currently existing for this type training. The CHAIRMAN. What is Trainfire ranges? General SHULER. Mr. Chairman, we have a total of 24 ranges of this type throughout the structure of the bill in our request. These are: 2 at Fort Knox, 2 at Fort Devens, 3 at Fort Bragg, 3 at Fort Campbell, 1 at Fort McClellan, 2 at Fort Bliss, 3 at Fort Hood, 2 at Fort Sill, 3 at Fort Riley, 3 at Fort Lewis, and 1 at Fort Meade. In October of 1956, the Army completed a 1-year troop test of a new course in basic rifle marksmanship, which is known as Trainfire. The need for revision of rifle marksmanship was indicated after an evaluation of riflemen performance in World War II and Korea. It has been firmly established that the full combat potential of the riflemen was not completely realized in these conflicts. To kill his target on the battlefield, the rifleman must first be able to see it and, second, he must be able to aim at his target without disarranging his aim. The combat rifleman normally fires from a foxhole, ditch, trench, or from behind a tree, rock, and other available protective cover. His target is a surprise one. The fleeting camouflage, low-silhouette type. Before he is able to fire accurately, he must overcome obstructions between his sight and his target, caused by vegetation, smoke, dust, and the like. The Trainfire course of instruction has been established to prepare the rifleman to efficiently cope with these battlefield conditions. Three firing ranges are used in the course. The first is the 1,000inch range, where the soldier learns the basic fundamentals, such as various positions, sighting, and aiming. |