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Requirements (based on long-range troop strength):

Officers and upper grade enlisted men...

Lower grade enlisted..

Essential civilians___

Total

71

120

270

316

111

888

1, 139

161

1,300

The construction of this project will enable the Department of the Army to provide 78 percent of the maximum gross housing requirement based on the long-range troop forecast.

The CHAIRMAN. Capehart housing.

Mr. KELLEHER. And the Capehart housing, which of course is not a money item.

Three hundred and sixteen family quarters, Capehart-I might say there, Mr. Chairman, that there are 270 Capehart houses that are now under contract, previously approved.

The CHAIRMAN. This will make 600 Capehart houses?

Mr. KELLEHER. Yes, sir.

Mr. RIVERS. Could I inquire of the general?

Is this your principal research installation for missiles?

General SHULER. Sir, all of this construction is in support of the prosecution of the Army's guided missiles and rocket programs, and this is the principal site; yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Any questions?

Without objection, it is approved.

Mr. BATES. Mr. Chairman, I would just like to ask one question,. if I may.

General, when you gave the 10,000 spaces for enlisted men's barracks in your prepared text for $21 million, did that include a mess or what? Is that with or without a mess?

General SHULER. I am not sure of that, Mr. Bates. I will get the answer for you. I think it includes the supporting facilities which are the battalion combined mess and the battalion combined administrative and storage building. Because those functions, sir, were taken out of the barracks in our new design, that was approved last year by the Congress, in order to save money by centralizing those facilities so we could put more money into the barracks and make for better living conditions. My assistant now informs me that I am wrong— the $21 million is for the barracks only.

The CHAIRMAN. All right.

Without objection

Mr. BATES. Wait a minute.

What I am trying to find out, Mr. Chairman, is what is the average cost of enlisted men's space without the mess.

General SHULER. Sir, the statutory limit for his space, that is his component part of that barracks building, is $1,850. Now, that goes out to the 5-foot line. That is every use he has of that building—

sleeping, the dayroom, and any other use, exclusive of his mess, and his supply and administrative work.

Then you add to that $1,850, sir, his proportionate share of the total cost of outside utilities. And since these are 326-men capacity, in this barracks, that is the divisor that we use, sir.

Now, I can furnish for you the total cost per man for the mess and the administration and supply building and barracks. I do not have that with me right now, but I will be glad to furnish that.

Mr. BATES. I presume every item in here has been standardized. If in one case you include the utilities, in the other you include them, too; don't you?

General SHULER. That is right.

Let me give you an illustration:

For the enlisted men's barracks at Redstone Arsenal, because of the requirement for siting those where they must be built, you have the following cost to add onto the bare building cost.

You have $6,000 for site preparation, $80,000 for roads and parking, and a very expensive outside utility cost of $149,000.

Mr. BATES. Which one is this?

General SHULER. This is Redstone Arsenal.

This is broken down into 2,500-pardon me-2,500 feet of waterline, 2,000 feet of sewer line, 2,500 feet of steam distribution line, 2,300 feet of electrical pole line, and 2 substations.

Now, those, sir, add up to the total cost of this project.
Mr. BATES. And those are unusual costs, are they?

General SHULER. I would say this utility cost is quite unusual, sir. Mr. BATES. Then tell me why is it cheaper than at the other one? General SHULER. Because, sir, the total cost I have given you is for four barracks at Redstone Arsenal.

The Congressman understands we have 3 barracks at Aberdeen and 4 at Redstone Arsenal. We can not compare those two on a total cost basis, because you are building fewer barracks at Aberdeen than you are at Redstone.

Mr. BATES. Well, I know.

Mr. GAVIN. Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Gavin.

Mr. GAVIN. This research and development isn't here at Huntsville, Redstone Arsenal.

The Air Force or Navy have no center comparable to this center, do they? This is the only coordinated research and development center of any of the three branches of the service; is that right?

General SHULER. Mr. Gavin, I am not an expert on that, but I think the Navy and the Air Force do not have comparable centers, and I don't believe that this is a triservice center, if that is what the Congressman means.

Mr. GAVIN. No; I don't mean that.

General SHULER. This is an Army

Mr. GAVIN. I mean this is established as a research and development center, well coordinated, and I understand a great deal of the research and development is let out to private enterprise.

General SHULER. That is right.

Mr. GAVIN. This is the center where the Army has established a research and development center where everything is coordinated. General SHULER. That is right.

Mr. GAVIN. And is under the supervision of the Army.
General SHULER. That is right.

Mr. GAVIN. The question is do the Navy or the Air Force have a comparable setup?

General SHULER. I don't believe they do, sir, but I am not certain. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Kelleher, have you any information to answer Mr. Gavin's question? Is there anything comparable in the other two services to the Redstone?

Of course, we all know

Mr. RIVERS. Not in success.
Mr. SMART. Mr. Chairman-

The CHAIRMAN. Wait one minute. We all know that it was testified here that $2,700,000,000 was spent by the Air Force for the development of the Titan and the Atlas, and all in private enterprise. I don't recall, unless it is out at Dayton, anything comparable to Redstone in the Air Force.

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Mr. SMART. You have the Office of the Naval Research here and in addition the Navy has its missile test facility at Point Mugu, Calif.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, it is not exactly

Mr. KELLEHER. No, arsenal setup similar to this in the other services.

The CHAIRMAN. No arsenal.

Here at Redstone is a production of a certain type, as well as research work carried on.

Mr. GAVIN. All coordinated.

The CHAIRMAN. All coordinated. The policy of the other two departments has been in the field of private enterprise to a great extent. Mr. GAVIN. I just want to compliment the Army for setting up

such a center.

The CHAIRMAN. I think it is true they should be complimented. And I wish Mr. Smart would get this for the record. I wish you would try to find out the total amount that has been spent at Redstone from the inception of Jupiter down to date.

(The information requested is as follows:)

Total obligations to date for Jupiter are approximately $450.12 million. This total includes $291.76 million for basic development costs funded by the Army, plus $158.36 million supplied by the Department of Defense for initial operating capability costs.

The CHAIRMAN. Now, we have what it costs-what has been spent on the Thor and Atlas, which I just stated was $2,400,000,000. Let's get the information as to how much has been spent to develop the Jupiter.

Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Chairman

The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, Redstone is approved. Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the general this: That Detroit Arsenal is a good example of how, when you perfect a weapon, you integrate it with private industry, in that big industrial area up around Detroit. This is really what your Detroit Arsenal is. And the production of the Redstone by Chrysler is handled through that office, is that right?

20066-58-No. 86-7

The CHAIRMAN. Take your next item, Rock Island,
Without objection, Redstone is approved.

Rock Island.

Mr. KELLEHER (reading):

Rock Island Arsenal, Illinois: Operational and training facilities, $570,000. The item is to rehabilitate building No. 350 for an automatic data processing system, at a cost of $570,000.

General SHULER. Rock Island Arsenal, Ill.: Ordnance installation located 1 mile North of Rock Island; initially occupied in 1862; designated "permanent."

Mission: Development, industrial engineering, manufacture, and maintenance engineering of: carriages, recoil mechanism, and limbers for guns and howitzers (tower), field and AT, up to and including 155 millimeter gun or 8 inch howitzer; hydropneumatic recoil mechanisms for vehicles; rocket launchers, surface-to-surface, except fire control and special purpose vehicles; target material except aerial drones; linking-delinking machines; hand carts; and arms racks. Industrial engineering manufacture, and maintenance engineering of: ground machineguns, caliber .30; links, common ground machinegun mounts; and aerial delivery containers. Industrial engineering and maintenance of: automatic aircraft weapons caliber .60/20 millimeter M39, and feed mechanisms, gun chargers and links therefor. Operation of the Production Equipment Office (PEQUO). Assignments in management engineering, training, depot operations, and basic research in the fields of science and engineering with respect to rubber, corrosion preventives, and other nonmetallic materials (except plastics and adhesives), and supporting research in the foregoing as well as greases except for fire control and precision instrumentations; packaging techniques for ordnance materiel other than ammunition: target materials; and aerial delivery containers; basic production engineering investigation on metal cutting and processing. Total cost (based on price when acquired), $39,746,017. Cost of improvements (permanent and other), $39,508,525. Cost of land (905 acres), $237,492.

Present strength: Military, 52; civilian employees, 5,200.

Line items requested for fiscal year 1959 authorization: ($570,000 total): Rehabilitate building No. 350 for automatic data processing system.

Detailed justification follows:

Rehabilitate building No. 350 for Automatic Data Processing System ($570,000): It is required to provide an adequate site for the installation of the proposed automatic data processing system equipment compliment for headquarters OWC, and personnel of the Field Service Division who are responsible for a large portion of the input and output data processed. In accordance with the requirements established by the target analysis, protective construction of the equipment area and the communication center is also necessary. Presently, the Field Service Division, comprising approximately 400 persons, is located in the attic of building No. 60. This present area is very inadequate for office space and has had an extremely detrimental effect on the efficiency of the personnel. Careful analysis of existing buildings at Rock Island Arsenal resulted in the selection of the first floor middle room for the equipment compliment. This room

can be modified for the equipment compliment as the existing ceiling height can be increased by depressing the floor approximately 2 feet to meet the requirements. Building No. 350, while inadequate for modern storage techniques and consequently of little value as a storage facility, is ideally suited for office space with a minimum of modification. Existing building No. 60 will be retained. If this project is not provided the automatic data processing system cannot be installed to operate effectively and personnel will continue to work in inadequate dispersed locations, thus precluding the satisfactory accomplishment of the mission of the Ordnance Weapons Command.

The CHAIRMAN. All the money funded on last year's bill?

Mr. KELLEHER. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Any questions?

If not, we will approve it.

The next one is White Sands Proving Ground, N. Mex.

Mr. KELLEHER (reading):

White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico: Operational and training facilities, research, development and test facilities, medical facilities, troop housing, and community facilities, $7,931,000.

General SHULER. White Sands Proving Ground, N. Mex.: Ordnance installation located 27 miles northeast of Las Cruces; initially occupied in 1945; designated "permanent."

Mission: Principal Ordnance Corps installation for the execution of all technical and engineering responsibilities associated with flight testing of guided missiles, rockets, and other munitions which may be assigned for ordnance engineering and acceptance testing, and for the general supervision and coordination as pertains to scheduling, range safety, and instrumentation of all flight testing performed there for either contractor or user test purposes.

Total cost (based on price when acquired), $41,860,267.

Cost of improvements (permanent and other), $41,859,757.
Cost of land (799.077 acres), $510.

Present strength: Military, 2,915; civilian employees, 4,178. Line items requested for fiscal year 1959 authorization: ($7,931,000 total):

Up-range service area development, Stallion site

Two missile assembly buildings

Range instrumentation facilities

Shock and vibration laboratory
Dental clinic

Bachelor officers quarters (60-man)

Post chapel w/religious education facilities (600-seat)
Commissary

75 family quarters (Capehart)

200 family quarters (Capehart) Detailed justification follows:

Up-range service areas development, Stallion site ($1,410,000): This project will provide living quarters, mess, maintenance shops, support facilities and utilities for personnel assigned to the Stallion site, an instrumentation site, communications center and airstrip facility at the northwestern corner of the integrated range, over 90 miles from the main administrative, maintenance, and launching areas.

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