TABLE 2.-Family housing items in fiscal year 1959 MCA bill action by House of Representatives under provisions of sec. 419, Public Law 968/84—Continued

TABLE 2.-Family housing items in fiscal year 1959 MCA bill action by House of Representatives under provisions of sec. 419, Public Law 968/84-Continued

TABLE 3.-Title VIII (Capehart) housing program-Summary of development program as of May 13, 1958

Includes 9,377 units for which development has been deferred (Army, 4,155; Navy, 3,242; Air Force, 1,980).

Includes 5,483 units in completed projects (Army, 2,617; Navy, 160; Air Force, 2,706).

TABLE 4.-Department of Defense surplus commodity housing program (status as of May 1, 1958)

The CHAIRMAN. Members of the committee, I was privileged to have the opportunity to examine this statement some days ago. I read it and reread it. I want to say that it contains valuable information that will and should enable the committee to reach prompt decisions on a great many items.

When we come to deal with the questions of the various sections of the bill, we will no doubt have to have Mr. Bryant back to go over it in more detail in regard to why a certain item is set out in the

sections.

I have no particular questions to ask you, Mr. Bryant, because the information I will seek to obtain is through the department witnesses. But I do want to compliment you on your fine statement.

Mr. KILDAY. Mr. Chairman

The CHAIRMAN. It gives all the facts necessary for the committee to get the overall viewpoint of the objective of the bill. Mr. Kilday.

Secretary BRYANT. Thank you, sir.

Mr. KILDAY. I agree that we will probably have most of our questions for the departments. But I did want to say that I believe Mr. Bryant's statement is the most comprehensive summary of the Department of Defense property activities that I have seen since I have been here. It is a very fine document. [Applause.]

Mr. KILDAY. I think there would be a good many people who would like to see it-the acreage and your cost, capital costs, and things of that kind. It is a very fine statement.

Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Chairman, I would like to join Mr. Kilday in that, too, because this is a valuable document, and I think it will be very helpful to us in our deliberations.

The CHAIRMAN. Are there any questions by any members of the committee?

Mr. GAVIN. I also want to take this opportunity, too, Mr. Chairman, to congratulate the gentleman on a very comprehensive statement. It is documented, factual, clear, and understandable. And we are very grateful for having such a fine presentation.

Secretary BRYANT. May I say on behalf of my associates, Mr. Chairman, and those members of the committee who have been so kind as to offer these congratulatory messages, that this is the result of very excellent team work. I would not like to have it assumed that I could have produced it without this type of help.

The CHAIRMAN. Now, members of the committee, for the benefit of those who were not here when the committee started its session at 10 o'clock, I stated that I was asking the committee to meet at 9 o'clock each morning until we finish this bill. So I am expecting all of you to be here tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock. And if you are not here, the chairman will be here, and we will start the hearings. [Laughter.] The CHAIRMAN. Now, Mr. Bryant

Secretary BRYANT. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Unless there are any questions-
Mr. DEVEREUX. Yes, sir; I have a question.

The CHAIRMAN. By members of the committee-
Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Chairman.

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Bates, any questions?
Mr. BATES. How much time do we have?
The CHAIRMAN. You have 10 minutes.

Mr. BATES. Mr. Chairman, I want to take part of my time congratulating the Secretary for this magnificient statement. But it is certainly one of the finest, if not the finest, I have ever seen presented to the committee.

Mr. Secretary, you have now the list of items which are to be rescinded, having gone over the 3-year period?

Secretary BRYANT. May I ask Mr. Fore to answer that question, Mr. Bates?

Mr. FORE. Mr. Chairman, that list was furnished

The CHAIRMAN. I believe Mr. Kelleher has that list, haven't you? Mr. KELLEHER. I have that; yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. We have that.

Secretary BRYANT. I wanted to be sure. That is the reason I asked Mr. Fore to answer the question.

Thank you very much. It has been submitted.

Mr. BATES. Well, what is that to which you refer on page 32, concerning a report to the Congress at the beginning of the first session? Is that the same thing? All military

Secretary BRYANT. In a sense it is, yes, Mr. Bates, because in reporting to the Congress at the beginning-I mean on the military construction authorization bill-we do show the extent of the recissions and those, again, will be supported in the same fashion by insertion in the record.

I only outlined the numbers here, rather the dollars. But it seems that inasmuch as it is being offered, and I think in such complete shape as you would want it, at the time that we submit the bill, that the biennial reports would only be duplicatory.

Mr. BATES. Now, before we eliminate the Rivers subcommittee [laughter]

The CHAIRMAN. May I suggest, let's don't go into the various sections of the bill at this time, because there will be considerable discussion on each and every one of these sections.

I was going to suggest that we withhold any general inquiry about that until we reach them in the consideration of the bill, in order. Then we will have to have Mr. Bryant return to justify the various proposed changes in the bill. And I thought in that way we could save considerable time, and it will be a little bit more chronological consideration of the bill.

The CHAIRMAN. However, if any member wants to inquire about it, go ahead and inquire into it now.

Mr. PRICE. Would the gentleman yield?

The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead, Mr. Bates.

Mr. BATES. If we can't discuss the bill at this time, I have no further questions.

I yield back the balance of my time.

Mr. PRICE. Will the gentleman yield?

The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead, Mr. Bates.

Mr. PRICE. I wish the gentleman would develop it. I think I know the paragraph he is going to develop. I think he should develop it with the Secretary now. So often we hear they will return and they never return.

Mr. RIVERS. That is right.

The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead, Mr. Bates.

Mr. BATES. If Mr. Bryant is going to be here later

The CHAIRMAN. Take it up now. We have plenty of time this morning. We have half an hour before the Congress convenes. Mr. Bryant, state the reason why you are advocating repeal of making the report to the Congress.

Secretary BRYANT. May I ask: You mean with respect to the provisions of section 507 of this bill?

The CHAIRMAN. Acquisitions and disposals.

Secretary BRYANT. I thought we had answered Mr. Bates on that. The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead.

Secretary BRYANT. That is, this matter of biennial-I mean the repeal.

Mr. BATE. No

Secretary BRYANT. Perhaps I am not on the right provision, Mr. Bates.

Mr. SMART. Title 6 of Public Law 155.

Mr. BATES. With reference to the approval of this subcommittee, the Rivers subcommittee on items of $5,000.

Secretary BRYANT. That is right.

Mr. PRICE. Your first full paragraph on page 35.

Secretary BRYANT. Yes. This is with respect to the revisions formerly contained in title VI of Public Law 155.

With your permission, Mr. Bates, I would like Mr. Nash, of the Office of General Counsel, to answer that question.

Mr. BATES. All right, sir.

Mr. NASH. Mr. Bates, that is based on the President's recommendation as contained in the budget message of last January

Mr. RIVERS. A little louder.

Mr. NASH. Which, in turn, was based on an opinion that he received from the Attorney General last summer, a copy of which I

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