Mr. KANTER. Just what I said before-that I was a skunk. Mr. ROBSION. That you were a skunk? Mr. KANTER. Yes, sir. Mr. VESTAL. Mr. Chairman, that is really not competent testimony. The CHAIRMAN. It will not be if anyone objects. Mr. VESTAL. That is hearsay evidence. Mr. KANTER. And he told me that, and he would say that down here. I think he is summoned here next Monday. Mr. ROBSION. Of course you understand that the purpose of that is to find out who can give the testimony. And you say that Mr. Marks is summoned for next Monday? Mr. KANTER. Yes, sir. I met him last night. Mr. ROBSION. Now, what caused Mr. Marks to tell you that these men had called you a skunk? Mr. KANTER. He has been up there trying to fix my case up a thousand times, trying to get me back in Seward Park, and there is no possible chance. They just tell him, "No; there is no chance of his going back there." Mr. ROBSION. In what connection did they call you a skunk? Mr. KANTER. He said, "They don't like you up there, Kanter. One of those fellows up there called you a skunk." I said, "I don't know why. I never done them any harm." Mr. ROBSION. You say they called you names. Is there any other name that they have called you? Mr. KANTER. No; I don't remember any other name. That is the only name. I don't remember whether he said Mr. Clark or Mr. Benway. Now, that is up to Mr. Marks, but that is what Mr. Marks told me, and I can't swear to it but that is what he told me. Mr. ROBSION. Were you working for the New York papers before you got into the Army? Mr. KANTER. Yes; I worked for the New York Telegraph; I worked for the Globe, and Mail, and all those papers. Mr. ROBSION. What money did you make? Mr. KANTER. I averaged $40 a week easy, besides my outside line. There is a man that will tell you-Mr. Littledale will tell you what the newspaper business is. Mr. ROBSION. And you feel that you can't get along in the world and make your living unless you have this vocational training? Mr. KANTER. Yes, sir. I remember Mr. Chappelle and Mr. Benway telling me two different days," Kanter, why don't you try something else? Why don't you just sign an agreement that you won't take vocational training? You can go out and make a living." Those are the very words they both told me two different times. Mr. ROBSION. That is all. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Kanter, you live in New York City? The CHAIRMAN. At Stamford? Mr. KANTER. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Are you married? Mr. KANTER. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Is there anyone dependent upon you? Mr. KANTER. No, sir. Mr. VESTAL. What was that question, Mr. Chairman? I did not get your question. The CHAIRMAN. If he had any dependents; anyone dependent upon him? Mr. VESTAL. And what was your answer? Mr. KANTER. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You may be excused. We will call Mr. Braham. STATEMENT OF MR. W. W. BRAHAM, 1739 P STREET, WASHINGTON, D. C. (The witness was duly sworn by the chairman.) The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Braham, give your name and present address to the stenographer. Mr. BRAHAM. W. W. Braham, 1739 P Street NW, Washington, D. C. The CHAIRMAN. Where are you just now? Mr. BRAHAM. Where am I working? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Mr. BRAHAM. I am an employee of the Federal board at Walter Reed Hospital. Might I just now. Mr. Chairman, state how I happened to be summoned to the committee? The CHAIRMAN. Well, you may, in order to qualify. It may be that we will not want to hear you just at this time. Mr. BRAHAM. That is the reason I want to make the statement. I have known Dr. Henry Temple, who is our Representative in Congress from western Pennsylvania. I have seen these Littledale articles in the New York Evening Post, and I thought some of them were hardly founded on fact, at least those portions of articles that reflected upon or were connected with the work in the hospitals, and I wrote a note to Dr. Temple. I told him that if it came in the line of his duty I would be glad to give him the benefit of my experience in the hospital. I don't know so much about the placement work of which the gentleman spoke this morning, or the training section, but I do know the hospital work pretty well, I think, and I know Walter Reed Hospital. The CHAIRMAN. Now, Mr. Braham, Dr. Temple spoke to me, stating that a friend of his out in Walter Reed Hospital could throw some light, he thought, upon the matter we were investigating; but if you are identified with the board, I don't think we want to hear you now, until we have the evidence of the other side all in. Mr. BRAHAM. Yes, sir; that is the reason I asked to make that statement. I was not clear about it. The CHAIRMAN. Well, I think that would be the proper thing, so we will not hear you at this time, but will call for you later. Is Mr. Friedman here? (There was no response.) Gentlemen, I think we have heard, then, all that were to appear to-day, except Maj. Henderson. He was asked to come. The committee will stand adjourned until 10 o'clock to-morrow morning. Mr. BRAND. Mr. Chairman, you have no witnesses here for tomorrow morning? The CHAIRMAN. Well, there are three witnesses that have been designated as material witnesses and they have been subpoenaed, so they evidently will be here to-morrow. Mr. DALLINGER. May I ask if Mr. Friedman was subpoenaed? The CHAIRMAN. Yes; but not until Thursday. But some one, I thought Mr. Friedman, spoke to me to-day stating that he was here; that is the reason I called for him; but he is summoned for Thursday. Col. Miller, of the American Legion, will appear tomorrow afternoon. The committee will stand adjourned until 10 o'clock to-morrow morning. (Whereupon, at 4.30 o'clock p. m., the committee adjourned until 10 o'clock a. m., Wednesday, April 7, 1920.) COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION, HOUSE OF RepresentatiVES, Washington, Wednesday, April 7, 1920. The committee met at 10 o'clock a. m., Hon. Simeon D. Fess (chairman) presiding. STATEMENT OF MR. HENRY KATZEN, 57 LILLIE STREET, NEWARK, N. J. (The witness was duly sworn by the chairman.) The CHAIRMAN. Give your full name to the stenographer and also your present address. Mr. KATZEN. My-name is Henry Katzen, 57 Lillie Street, Newark, N. J. The CHAIRMAN. Were you in the overseas service? Mr. KATZEN. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. When did you go over? Mr. KATZEN. I started out April 6, 1918. The CHAIRMAN. When did you return? Mr. KATZEN. I returned on the 3d of March, 1919. The CHAIRMAN. Were you wounded? Mr. KATZEN. No, sir; I was not wounded, but I had trouble with my heart and coughing. The CHAIRMAN. You were discharged on what date? Mr. KATZEN. I was discharged on April 13, 1919. The CHAIRMAN. Just a little more than a year? Mr. KATZEN. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What was your disability, your disability rating when you were discharged? Mr. KATZEN. There was no disability rating on my discharge. The CHAIRMAN. Are you getting any compensation from the warrisk insurance? Mr. KATZEN. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What is it? Mr. KATZEN. $90 a month before I got training, and I am getting $115. The CHAIRMAN. What I mean is from the war-risk insurance alone you get $90 a month? Mr. KATZEN. $90 and the Federal board has put the rest up of the $115. The CHAIRMAN. When did you apply for training? Mr. KATZEN. In France when the Red Cross captain came around and he took down my name. |