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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND

STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED

AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1988

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SUBCOMMITTEE .OP

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDREDTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES

NEAL SMITH, Iowa, Chairman

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

JOSEPH D. EARLY. Massachusetts RALPH REGULA, Ohio

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey JIM KOLBE, Arizona

BOB CARR, Michigan
ALAN B MOLLOHAN, West Virginia

John G. Osthaub and George Schafer. Staff Assistants

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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND

STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED

AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1988

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDREDTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND
STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES

NEAL SMITH, Iowa, Chairman

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

JOSEPH D. EARLY. Massachusetts RALPH REGULA, Ohio

BERNARD J. DWYER New Jersey JIM KOLBE, Arizona

BOB CARR, Michigan
ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia

John G. Osthaus and George Schäfer, Staff Assistants

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EDWARD P. ROLAND. Massachusetts

WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois

DAVID R. OBEY. Wisconsin

EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California

LOUIS STOKES, Ohio

TOM BKVILL, Alabama

BILL CHAPPELL, Jr., Florida

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania

BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts

CHARLES WILSON, Texas

LJNDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana

NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington

MATTHEW F. McHUGH, New York

WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida

MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota

JULIAN C. DLXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina

LES AuOOIN, Oregon

DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii

WES WATKINS, Oklahoma

WILLIAM H. GRAY IH, Pennsylvania

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey

BILL BONER, Tennessee

STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois

RONALD D. COLEMAN, Texas

ALLAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania

JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana

CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio

LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida

JACK F. KEMP, New York

RALPH REGULA, Ohio

VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan

MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma

BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana

BILL GREEN, New York

JERRY LEWIS, California

JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois

HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

JOE SKEEN, New Mexico

FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia

BILL LOWERY, California

VIN WEBER, Minnesota

TOM DELAY, Texas

JIM KOLBE, Arizona

Frederick G. Mohrman, (Vert and Staff Director

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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1988

Wednesday, March 11,1987.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
ATTORNEY GENERAL
WITNESSES

EDWIN MEESE III, ATTORNEY GENERAL

HARRY H. FLICKINGER, ACTING ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR ADMINISTRATION

ROBERT N. FORD, COMPTROLLER

MICHAEL J. ROPER, DEPUTY COMPTROLLER FOR BUDGET

INTRODUCTION

Mr. Smith. This morning we will begin testimony on the fiscal year 1988 budget request of the Department of Justice.

We are pleased to welcome back the Attorney General of the United States, the Honorable Edwin Meese III. At this time, I will yield to Mr. Whitten, Chairman of the Committee.

COORDINATION OF DRUG WAR

Mr. Whitten. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Attorney General, in the Continuing Resolution we required the following:

"Pending the enactment of the Omnibus Drug Supplemental Appropriation Act of 1987, contained as Title II of the Fiscal Year 1987 Continuing Appropriations Act of 1987 (H.J. Res. 738), the President or his designee shall, out of the $1,200,000,000 made available for drug abuse prevention programs by House Joint Resolution 738, and continued by this Resolution and in the regular appropriation bill for Fiscal 1987, with the cooperation of those presently engaged in the effort in the executive departments, Members of Congress and others experienced in the field of law enforcement, use $100,000 to develop an overall drug abuse prevention plan that coordinates the government's efforts in combatting the widespread use of illegal drugs."

That was money you already have. In my opinion, this provision ties down those funds for that purpose. I have, in the last few months, been over much of the United States. Everywhere you go people are wanting money for uniforms and for offices, and in most places, they are not gettmg their share of the drug money. Now,

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