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COMMITTEE ON
INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN COMMERCE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SECOND CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

H.R. 11807, H.R. 7443, AND H.R. 12808

BILLS TO PROVIDE FOR IMPROVED FINANCING FOR THE

CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING

FEBRUARY 1, 2, AND 3, 1972

APR 1972

LINIU Rosa

Serial No. 92-62

Printed for the use of the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

74-325 0

WASHINGTON : 1972

COMMITTEE ON INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN COMMERCE

HARLEY 0. STAGGERS, West Virginia, Chairman TORBERT H. MACDONALD, Massachusetts WILLIAM L. SPRINGER, Illinois JOHN JARMAN, Oklahoma

SAMUEL L. DEVINE, Ohio JOHN E. MOSS, California

ANCHER NELSEN, Minnesota JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan

HASTINGS KEITH, Massachusetts PAUL G. ROGERS, Florida

JAMES T. BROYHILL, North Carolina LIONEL VAN DEERLIN, California

JAMES HARVEY, Michigan J. J. PICKLE, Texas

TIM LEE CARTER, Kentucky FRED B. ROONEY, Pennsylvania

CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio JOHN M. MURPHY, New York

DAN KUYKENDALL, Tennessee DAVID E. SATTERFIELD III, Virginia

JOE SKUBITZ, Kansas BROCK ADAMS, Washington

FLETCHER THOMPSON, Georgia RAY BLANTON, Tennessee

JAMES F. HASTINGS, New York W. S. (BILL) STUCKEY, JR., Georgia

JOHN G. SCHMITZ, California PETER N. KYROS, Maine

JAMES M. COLLINS, Texas BOB ECKHARDT, Texas

LOUIS FREY, JR., Florida ROBERT 0. TIERNAN, Rhode Island

JOHN WARE, Pennsylvania RICHARDSON PREYER, North Carolina

JOHN Y. MCCOLLISTER, Nebraska BERTRAM L. PODELL, New York

RICHARD G. SHOUP, Montana
HENRY HELSTOSKI, New Jersey
JAMES W. SYMINGTON, Missouri
CHARLES J. CARNEY, Ohio
RALPH H. METCALFE, Illinois
GOODLOE E. BYRON, Maryland
WILLIAM R. ROY, Kansas

W. E. WILLIAMSON, Clerk
KENNETH J. PAINTER, A88istant Clerk

Professional Staj
JAMES M. MENGER, Jr.

ROBERT F. GUTHRIE
WILLIAM J. DIXON

KURT BORCHARDT
CHARLES B. CURTIS

SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMUNICATIONS AND POWER

TORBERT H. MACDONALD, Massachusetts, Chairman LIONEL VAN DEERLIN, California

HASTINGS KEITH, Massachusetts FRED B. ROONEY, Pennsylvania

CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio ROBERT 0. TIERNAN, Rhode Island

JAMES M. COLLINS, Texas GOODLOE E. BYRON, Maryland

LOUIS FREY, JR., Florida (II)

CONTENTS

Hearings held on-

Page

February 1, 1972.

1

February 2, 1972.

121

February 3, 1972.

241

Text of-

H.R. 7443_

9

H.R. 11807-

3

H.R. 12808_

14

Report of-

Comptroller General of the United States on H.R. 7443_

26

Corporation for Public Broadcasting on:

H.R. 7443_

H.R. 11807

30

H.R. 12808_

28

Office of Management and Budget on:

H.R. 7443.

31

H.R. 11807

31

H.R. 12808.

Office of Telecommunications Policy on H.R. 12808_--

32

Statement of-

Adams, Hon. Brock, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington

137

Boggs, Hon. Hale, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Louisiana

223

Breitenfeld, Federick, Ph. D., vice chairman of the board, educational

television stations, National Association of Educational Broadcast-

ers, and executive director, Maryland Center for Public Broad-

casting

121

Burch, Hon. Dean, Chairman, Federal Communications Commission.- 245

Dennery, Mrs. Moise W., member, board of trustees, past chairman,

WYES-TV, and board of trustees, National Frieds of Public Broad-

casting, New Orleans, La----

223

Fore, Rev. William, chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting

Advisory Committee of National Organizations, and executive direc-

tor, Broadcasting and Film Commission, National Council of

Churches of Christ.--.

231

Griffin, Hon. Robert P., a U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan.- 241

Harley, William G., president, National Association of Educational

Broadcasters

Ives, David, president, station KGBH-TV, Boston, Mass--

96, 104

Johnson, Nicholas, Commissioner, Federal Communications Com-

mission.--

262

Kager, Kenneth, chairman, board of directors, National Educational

kadio, NAEB, and general manager, station KUOW, Seattle,
Wash

121, 137
Kaiser, Lloyd, chairman, executive board, National Association of

Educational Broadcasters, and president and general manager, sta-
tions WQED and WQEX, Pittsburgh, Pa---

121, 134

Macy, John W., Jr., president, Corporation for Public Broadcasting -- 33, 42

Montgomery, John A., executive consultant, instructional television,

National Association of Educational Broadcasters, and executive

director, Iowa Educational Broadcasting Network.--

121, 158
Ouzts, executive vice president and general manager, station KPTS-
TV, Wichita, Kans---

96, 100

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64

Johnson, Nicholas, Commissioner—Continued

Page Pace, Frank, Jr., chairman of the board, Corporation for Public Broadcasting

33 Rogers, Ralph, chairman of the board, station KERA-TV, Dallas, Tex

89 Schooley, Frank E., member of the board, Corporation for Public Broadcasting

33, 41 Shriver, Hon. Garner E., a Representative in Congress from the State of Kansas

99 Siegel, Sheldon P., executive vice president and general manager, station' WLVT-TV, Allentown, Pa----

96 Vaughan, Charles W., president and general manager, station WCETTV, Cincinnati, Ohio..

330 Whitehead, Clay T., Director, Office of Telecommunications Policy, Executive Office of the President--

273 Additional material submitted for the record by

American Bar Association, letter dated January 27, 1972, from Ken

neth J. Burns, Jr., to Chairman Staggers, re resolution in support of

efforts of Corporation for Public Broadcasting adopted by ABA.-- 352 Corporation for Public Broadcasting:

Attachment A to Mr. Macy's statement: Budget estimates, 1973-
77

47
Attachment B to Mr. Macy's statement: Summary of activities of
the Corporation since its creation.-

51 Killian, Dr. James R., Jr., member of the board, statement.--- 38 Letter dated February 14, 1972, from John W. Macy, Jr., presi

dent, to Chairman Macdonald, responding to testimony of Mr.
Whitehead

327 National production and delivery costs for three selected pro

grams

Share of nationwide audience for public broadcasting programs-- 63 Fore, Rev. William, chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting Advisory Committee of National Organizations, and executive di

rector, Broadcasting and Film Commission, National Council of
Churches of Christ:
List of CPB advisory committee organizations endorsing long-
range financing----

236 Resolution enacted by CPB Advisory Committee of National Organizations, January 11, 1972--

235 Griffin, Hon. Robert P., a U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan : Proposed amendment to Public Broadcasting Act of 1934---

244 Excerpt from report of Senate Commerce Committee on the

“Public Broadcasting Financing Act of 1970" (Senate Report
91-869)

244 Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee:

Article from Durham, N.C., Herald, September 17, 1971, entitled
"Ex-Correspondent Cuffs Media Views"-

82
Article from Washington Post, February 3, 1972, entitled “Attack
on Public Broadcasting".

282 Beirne, Joseph A., president, Communications Workers of Amer

ica, and member, board of directors, Corporation for Public
Broadcasting, statement--

88
Extract from House Report 90–572: Additional views of Hasting
Keith

287 Letter dated February 1, 1972, Clay T. Whitehead, Director,

Office of Telecommunications Policy, Executive Office of the
President, to Speaker of the House Carl Albert, re revision
of section 396 of the Communications Act of 1934, with copy of
proposed bill attached.-

308
Letter of transmittal accompanying House Resolution 841 of
1970 (Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1970) --

292 Preliminary report of public television stations' income_Comparison of fiscal years 1969 and 1970

296 Sources of income by type of licensee, fiscal year ending June 30, 1970

297 Page

346

214

215 218

219 220

220 350

302

National Association for Christian Political Action, John R. Hamilton,
Washington representative, statement with appendix---
National Association of Educational Broadcasters, letter dated Febru-
ary 14, 1972, with attachments as follows-----
1. Discussion of a permanent plan for support of educational

broadcasting
2. Recommended modified version of H.R. 11807_.
3. Supplementary statement to oral testimony:

(a) Station representation on CPB board...
(b) Explanation of the Richmond, Va., two-station situation.
(c) Additional comments from noncommercial educational

broadcasters
Network Project, The, statement-
Office of Telecommunications Policy, Executive Office of the President:

Meetings between Mr. Whitehead and public broadcasting officials,

September 1970 through January 1972_-
Staff members of OTP with experience in broadcasting or broad-

casting-related activities--
Substantiation of H.R. 13007's increased operating support for

educational bro ast stations.
Ouzts, Dale K., executive vice president and general manager, station
KPTS-TV, Wichita, Kans. :

Graph showing source of operational funds of station KPTS,

channel 8__

Programing analysis—KPTS, channel 8weekly---
Vaughan, Charles W., president and general manager, station WCET-
TV, Cincinnati, Ohio:
Letter dated February 15, 1972, to Chairman Macdonald, clar-
ifying testimony, with enclosures :
Community programing—WCET-TV.
Community support—WCET-TV--
Special report on activities connected with the “Turned On

Crisis" drug abuse series--

326

353

100 102

334 334

335

ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS

Corporation for Public Broadcasting:

Macy, John W., Jr., president.
Pace, Frank, Jr., chairman of the board.

Schooley, Frank E., member of the board.
Corporation for Public Broadcasting Advisory Committee of National Organiza-

zations, Rev. William Fore, chairman. Federal Communications Commission :

Burch, Hon. Dean, Chairman.

Johnson, Nicholas, Commissioner.
National Association of Educational Broadcasters :

Breitenfeld, Frederick, Ph. D., vice chairman of the board, educational tele

vision stations, and executive director, Maryland Center for Public

Broadcasting. Harley, William G., president. Kager, Kenneth, chairman, board of directors, and general manager, station

KUOW, Seattle, Wash. Kaiser, Lloyd, chairman, executive board, and president and general man

ager, stations WQED and WQEX, Pittsburgh, Pa. Montgomery, John A., executive consultant, instructional television, and

executive director, Iowa Educational Broadcasting Network. National Friends of Public Broadcasting, New Orleans, La., Mrs. Moise W.

Dennery, member of board of trustees. Office of Telecommunications Policy, Executive Office of the President, Clay T.

Whitehead, Director.

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