We are also bussing the children. Some 700 or 800 children are being bussed from overcrowded conditions to classrooms where there is space available.

And then the use of substandard rooms. We are using rooms, Mr. Chairman, that we should not be using, basement rooms, and special nooks and crannies where we can put small classes, all of this in accordance with code and safety regulations, but substandard by whatever point of view you can take.

Senator SPONG. Do you use any of these prefabricated classrooms? Dr. HANSEN. We have gotten authority from the Appropriations Committee to acquire relocatable buildings.

Mr. Blaser is now taking the bids on those. And we expect to use them as emergency measures in some of the Southeast schools, where we have a very severe overcrowded situation.

As to the kindergarten list, we are not in such good position there. Our last report indicates that we have a significant number of kindergarten waiting lists still to embarrass us. And this is a crucial loss to the children that want to come in.

Senator SPONG. Dr. Hansen, can you give me some ideas of the percentage of the tax dollar in the District that has been devoted to education over the past 10 years?

Dr. HANSEN. Yes, we have an analysis of that.

The 1967 appropriations showed that 27.2 percent of the general fund appropriation for operating expenses was assigned to operating expenses of public schools.

Senator SPONG. Operating expenses?

Dr. HANSEN. Operating expenses. And 57.5 percent of the total general fund appropriations, for capital outlay, was allocated to schools capital outlay. The public schools portion of the total general fund appropriation for 1967 was 31.5 percent.

If the estimated percent for 1968 of all we asked for is granted, it will be 35.3 percent. The 31.5 percent runs pretty close on the average, of being a little higher than it was in 1958, when it was 30.0 percent. Senator SPONG. You mean, that is close to your own average. Now, do you have for us, or could you submit any figures for cities of comparable size?

Dr. HANSEN. I don't have that information here.

Do you have it, Dr. Carroll?

Mr. CARROLL. I am not sure. I am not positive I have it. We will look for it and submit it if we have it.

The attached statement compares the funds appropriated for public schools with total appropriations for all general fund activities. Information comparing the proportion of the total District budget that is allocated to education with that of comparable cities is not currently available. Several sources are being contacted to develop some information of this type. A response to this request will be available in approximately 2 weeks.

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Senator SPONG. If you do, we would like to have it.

We notice some exhibits in the House report that would move in this direction, and we would like some more specific information if we can find it.

Now, Dr. Hansen, can you tell us anything about the Shaw Junior High School project?

Dr. HANSEN. Yes, I can bring you up to date on what is being planned.

First, I want to say that this has been a joint cooperative effort involving the National Capital Planning Commission, the Redevelopment Land Agency, the District Building, the community organization known as MICO, involving the parents and other community leaders and the school system, planning jointly to select a site which will be most productive and least destructive of housing. We have reached a point now that, by general consensus, though there are few who still oppose it. We have agreed upon a site called site C. And I suppose for the record it would be useful to explain where that is.

But it is, briefly, at a location which includes the Young Playground. At any rate, the group has decided upon site C. And this was decided at a meeting last week.

A very condensed report is being prepared, and when it is completed it will go to the community. So the community will be informed as to the site selection and the reason for it. On the 19th of this month, I will take a report to the Buildings and Grounds Committee of the Board recommending site C, and giving the reasons for it, and recommending to the Board that rather than approving this proposal offhand, it go back to the community to make a report to the community as to what the selection is, and why. I think the date for this meeting is the 28th of June-and that there be a public presentation on the afternoon at the Shaw Building.

Hopefully, there will be enough agreement on this that the Board can meet on the 29th and agree upon the site and recommend it to the National Capital Planning Commission. The National Capital Planning Commission will meet on the 27th of July, and if all goes well we will approve the site.

We will then go to the Commissioners. And if the Commissioners approve site C, then it will go to HUD for funding.

After the site has been developed, with the money that has already been appropriated by Congress, we can proceed at once for planning, and in the next budget year ask for construction money. For the information of the chairman there is submitted a copy of the brochure concerning the selection of the Shaw School site.

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