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(Information requested follows:)

Reciprocal aid, by fiscal year

Reciprocal aid is estimated to be approximately as follows:

Fiscal year—

1943.

1944

1945.
1946.

$50, 000

775, 000 1, 360, 000 1, 000, 000

OVER-ALL COST OF OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION TO DATE

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. What has been the over-all cost of O. W. I. to date? Mr. DAVIS. I do not have the exact figures, Mr. Wigglesworth, at this time.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Suppose when you revise your remarks you just insert a brief table that will show the amount received by fiscal years from the start of its operations; that is, giving the over-all costs to date.

Mr. DAVIS. Yes.

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Status of all funds appropriated or transferred to Office of War Information (as of Apr. 30, 1945)

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Includes $147,200 transferred to Office of War Information from Central Administrative Services of the Office for Emergency Management.

NUMBER OF POSITIONS 1945 AND 1946

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. In this revised justification you give 898 positions, administration; 9,946 in the Overseas Branch, and 437 in the Domestic Branch. I do not find comparable figures for the fiscal year 1945. They may be in here.

Mr. HULTEN. In developing this on a comparable basis with fiscal 1945 we would have to turn back to the original summary.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Where do I find that?

Mr. HULTEN. That is on page 1 of the original summary.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Does that mean there there are 595 positions for administration?

Mr. HULTEN. In the 1945 appropriation; yes.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Five hundred and ninety-five, and eight thousand six hundred and sixty-seven for Overseas.

72467-45-60

Mr. HULTEN. That is for 1945.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. And 517 for Domestic Branch?

Mr. HULTEN. Yes.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. That means a contemplated substantial increase in respect to both administration and Overseas as compared with fiscal 1945 even on this revised budget basis?

Mr. HULTEN. No, sir. With respect to administration, that is correct, but with respect to the Overseas Branch, the figure of 8,667 compares with 6,825.

Mr. MAY. The 1945 appropriation column represents the estimate at the time it was presented to the Congress.

Mr. HULTEN. I see.

Mr. MAY. The 1946 base column represents the experience for

1945.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. But as compared with the Overseas, the amount you are requesting is a substantial increase, is it not?

Mr. DAVIS. The only increase we are asking, Mr. Wigglesworth, is in the administrative services, where, as Mr. Hulten has explained, certain functions not only from the Central Administrative Services, but also some of the O. W. I. offices were transferred from the Overseas Branch to Administrative Service.

DISTRIBUTION OF OVERSEAS COSTS

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. How much of your overseas work, in dollars and cents, is there to be in respect to the Orient where the war continues actively, and how much represents expenditures in respect to countries in Europe where the war is terminated?

Mr. BARNARD. You are talking about percentages?

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Well, that would be all right; I just want to get a picture of your Overseas Branch expenditures, and how much in dollars and cents it will be in respect to the Orient and how much in dollars and cents in the nonwar territory, either percentagewise or in dollars and cents.

Mr. BARNARD. Well, at the present time

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. I am talking about the fiscal year 1946. Mr. BARNARD. I would like to give you a comparative statement as I think it will be helpful in showing you how this budget shifts our emphasis.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Very well.

Mr. BARNARD. At the present time our going rate of expenditures in the Atlantic area-that is Europe is $33,297,055, or 73 percent of the total going rate.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You mean that is the annual rate?

Mr. BARNARD. That is what we expect to wind up with at the end of the year.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Fiscal 1945?

Mr. BARNARD. Fiscal 1945. Now for the post-VE budget, that shifts to an expenditure in the same area of $18,800,214, and what that means is that where we were spending 73 percent of the money for Europe we come down to where we will be spending 53 percent of the money for that area.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. In saying 73 percent of the budget, is that for all activities?

Mr. BARNARD. That is right.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Of the overseas expenditures?

Mr. BARNARD. Of the overseas expenditures.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. 73 percent of the overseas budget goes to Europe now?

Mr. BARNARD. That is right. And that shifts to 53 percent, which means that the Pacific comes up from 27 to 47 percent.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Now give me the Pacific, if you will, in dollars and cents.

Mr. BARNARD. Our going rate at the present time in the Pacific area is $12,227,057, and that increases to $16,562,110.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. And accounts for about $35,000,000 then by reason of that shift?

Mr. BARNARD. In 1946.

MI. WIGGLESWORTH. Can you tell me the actual expenditures to date, (a) for Europe and (b) for the Pacific?

Mr. HULTEN. Up to March 31-we will have to take the total because we do not have the expenditures to date broken down by areas but this total of $45,000,000 is approximately our going rate and you simply have to take three-fourths of what has been spent up to that point.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You cannot tell us how much you have spent? Mr. HULTEN. Not by areas.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. For 9 months, first for Europe and second for the Orient?

Mr. HULTEN. No. It would be approximately 73 percent for Europe.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. How do you know?

Mr. HULTEN. Because those are the figures on which the total was made, the 73 percent actual going rate.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Do you not have the exact figures somewhere to show what you have expended?

Mr. HULTEN. What we have done is to take the method by which we arrive at the actual expenditures to date with an estimate of the expenditures for the next 3 months.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. The method by which you did what?

Mr. HULTEN. As a base for making our estimate.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. On what figures?

Mr. HULTEN. $12,000,000 for the Pacific and $33,000,000 plus for the Atlantic, roughly, 73 percent actually through March 31, and our estimated expenditures for the next 3 months. That is what we had to do.

If you want the exact amount, what that would amount to broken down by areas, we can put it in the record for you, but I do not happen to have the figures with me.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Well, if your statement of the mathematics is correct, all we would have to do is to take the 75 percent of the 12.2 million to find out what the Pacific has been to date, and 75 percent of the $33,000,000 plus, to find out what the expenditures in Europe have been to date.

Mr. HULTEN. That would be approximately correct; yes.

PERSONNEL BY COUNTRIES

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You have given us already a break-down of your personnel requests by countries, that is, (1) for the United States and (2) for the other countries.

Mr. HAMBLET. That was inserted in the record in response to Mr. Taber's request.

Mr. TABER. That shows the employees and also shows the activities.

Mr. HULTEN. It shows the outposts.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. I want you to take up the over-all figure for your personnel and just give us a break-down by countries, if it has not already been done.

Mr. HULTEN. I think you will find that in here for each of the outposts.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Just give us a brief table, by countries, showing the number of persons employed and the cost.

Mr. HULTEN. The number of persons and the cost?

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. By countries.

Mr. HULTEN. That is as of March 31?

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Some recent date. If you do not have it just insert it in the record.

Mr. HULTEN. Yes.

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