Admiral LAND. That is on page 64, showing the number of ships lost during the war, including dry-cargo, passenger-troop ships, and tankers. It would be quite a chore to break-down that table and show whether they are real old. But we can do it. We know the ages. Mr. TABER. You must have that in your records. Admiral LAND. Yes, sir; we have it. (NOTE. We have submitted for the record a complete list of insured vessels which furnishes the age of each vessel and the value assigned where fixed. A further break-down along the lines suggested was not found practicable.) Mr. TABER. The lost business is included in your table; you have the war and marine loss in item No. 3? Admiral LAND. Yes, sir. Mr. TABER. In 1944 you had 94 ships with a tonnage of 895,000. Admiral LAND. That is right. Mr. TABER. That is dry-cargo ships. You also had 15 tankers with a tonnage of 199,000. Admiral LAND. Of course, the others are estimates based on a tonnage laid down by—— Mr. TABER. Of course, the other years are entirely estimates. Mr. TABER. They could not be anything else. Admiral LAND. NO. Mr. TABER. How many of the 109 ships suffered from other than regular maritime casualties? Admiral LAND. There were about 13 percent of maritime casualties. The others are combatant casualties. Mr. TABER. In other words, there were about 95 of those ships that were war casualties? Admiral LAND. Yes. Mr. TABER. How many were in the Pacific? Admiral LAND. I have not the slightest idea, offhand. Mr. TABER. Perhaps somebody here might have an idea about that. Admiral LAND. My guess is that there would be about 60 or 70 percent in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean, and the others were in the Pacific. Mr. TABER. Perhaps 30 or 35 percent? Admiral LAND. Yes. We may have a very material increase during the last half of this year, due to what we were talking about this morning, and, of course, that will be materially increased as the Japanese war progresses. There have been serious casualties within the last few days or weeks in the Pacific area, particularly on Okinawa. I would like to invite your attention to the fact, in answer to both of Four questions, that when you get into passenger ships and try to analyze that category you will find that most of the passenger ships are troopers under Army control. Some have been purchased and title turned over. We do not carry Army-owned ships here. However, we have the responsibility for settling claims arising out of the requisitions as in the case of the Manhattan and the Washington. Mr. TABER. What about the age of most of those ships that were maritime casualties? Were they older vessels? Admiral LAND. No; I think a majority of them in that category would be Libertys, so far as the total losses are concerned, because there is such a tremendous preoponderance of Libertys on the ocean today. Something in the neighborhood of 2,500 or 2,600 have been put on the ocean, and the losses sustained, both by ourselves and our allies, run into something like 200 ships of the Liberty type that have been lost. Mr. TABER. There were 200 altogether? Admiral LAND. I am trusting my memory on that. We have the figures. Mr. TABER. That is not too far away from the figures you have. Admiral LAND. No. We have that in our security files. We do not ordinarily give that out, but I do not think there is any objection to passing that on to the committee, as far as the Liberty ships are concerned. We shall be glad to furnish it. Whether it should be printed or not depends upon the approval of the committee. (The statement referred to is as follows:) FUND 11 X 0521, TOTAL AND CONSTRUCTIVE TOTAL LOSSES, CHARTERED Large VESSELS, TO MARCH 31, 1945 -Charter provides for valuation under G. O. 9. LEGEND A-(adj.). Adjustment provided for in payment and requested in writing. F-(foreign). Foreign vessel-foreign owner. H-(high). Payment probably exceeds G. O. 10, supp. 2. I-(irrelevant). G. O. 10. supp. 2 does not apply (compromise settlement). J-Justice). Referred to Department of Justice. M-(missing). Collision re which advance of 50 percent of commercial marine insurance was made under missing vessels supplemental agreement. N-(no). A. B. certificate under G. O. 10. supp. 2 not received. OK-Net amount paid is per G. O. 10, supp. 2, including those approved for payment under supp. 1. S-(signed). Owners have signed second disputes addendum. U-(up). Owners endeavoring to prove higher speed. Y-(yes). A. B. certificate or A. B. letter received giving G. O. 10, supp. 2 speed. Summary Total and constructive total losses, chartered large vessels, to Mar. 31, 1945 Admiral LAND. No; I think a majority of them in that category would be Libertys, so far as the total losses are concerned, because there is such a tremendous preoponderance of Libertys on the ocean. today. Something in the neighborhood of 2,500 or 2,600 have been put on the ocean, and the losses sustained, both by ourselves and our allies, run into something like 200 ships of the Liberty type that have been lost. Mr. TABER. There were 200 altogether? Admiral LAND. I am trusting my memory on that. We have the figures. Mr. TABER. That is not too far away from the figures you have. Admiral LAND. No. We have that in our security files. We do not ordinarily give that out, but I do not think there is any objection to passing that on to the committee, as far as the Liberty ships are concerned. We shall be glad to furnish it. Whether it should be printed or not depends upon the approval of the committee. (The statement referred to is as follows:) FUND 11 X 0521, TOTAL AND CONSTRUCTIVE TOTAL LOSSES, CHARTERED LARGE VESSELS, TO MARCH 31, 1945 -Charter provides for valuation under G. O. 9. LEGEND A-(adj.). Adjustment provided for in payment and requested in writing. F-(foreign). Foreign vessel-foreign owner. H-(high). Payment probably exceeds G. O. 10, supp. 2. I-(irrelevant). G. O. 10, supp. 2 does not apply (compromise settlement). J-justice). Referred to Department of Justice. M-(missing). Collision re which advance of 50 percent of commercial marine insurance was made under missing vessels supplemental agreement. N-(no). A. B. certificate under G. O. 10. supp. 2 not received. OK-Net amount paid is per G. O. 10, supp. 2, including those approved for payment under supp. 1. S-(signed). Owners have signed second disputes addendum. U-(up). Owners endeavoring to prove higher speed. Y-(yes). A. B. certificate or A. B. letter received giving G. O. 10, supp. 2 speed. Summary Total and constructive total losses, chartered large vessels, to Mar. 31, 1945 |