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AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS
FOR 1985

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts
WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
CLARENCE D. LONG, Maryland
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio

TOM BEVILL, Alabama

BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida
BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts
CHARLES WILSON, Texas

LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MATTHEW F. McHUGH, New York
WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida
JACK HIGHTOWER, Texas

MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina

LES AUCOIN, Oregon

DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii

WES WATKINS, Oklahoma

WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey

WILLIAM R. RATCHFORD, Connecticut

BILL BONER, Tennessee

STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JACK EDWARDS, Alabama
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana

J. KENNETH ROBINSON, Virginia
CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio
LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
JACK F. KEMP, New York
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
GEORGE M. O'BRIEN, Illinois
VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska
ELDON RUDD, Arizona

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
BILL GREEN, New York
TOM LOEFFLER, Texas
JERRY LEWIS, California
JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

KEITH F. MAINLAND, Clerk and Staff Director

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AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1985

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1984.

FOOD SAFETY AND INSPECTION SERVICE

WITNESSES

C. W. MCMILLAN, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR MARKETING AND INSPECTION SERVICES

DONALD L. HOUSTON, ADMINISTRATOR, FOOD SAFETY AND INSPECTION SERVICE

L. L. GAST, ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR

JOSEPH A. POWERS, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGEMENT

WILLIAM L. WEST, DIRECTOR, BUDGET PLANNING AND EVALUATION DIVISION

STEPHEN B. DEWHURST, BUDGET OFFIÇER, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

OPENING REMARKS

Mr. WHITTEN. The Committee will come to order.

We have with us today Mr. McMillan, Assistant Secretary for Marketing and Inspection Services, and your associates. We are glad to have you. If you have any new members with you, we would like to have a biographical sketch for the record.

We are glad to have you before us. Your statement will appear in the record in full.

[CLERK'S NOTE: The prepared statement appears on pages 80 through 101. The explanatory notes appear on pages 102 through 120.] Mr. MCMILLAN. Thank you.

Today with me is Bill West, Budget, Planning and Evaluation Director for the Food Safety and Inspection Service; Joe Powers, Deputy Administrator for Administrative Management of FSIS; Lou Gast, Associate Administrator for FSIS, Dr. Donald Houston, Administrator of FSIS, and on my left is Steve Dewhurst, USDA's Budget Officer.

We do have the prepared statement, Mr. Chairman, and Dr. Houston will present the testimony. We will just give a thumbnail of the highlights per your request.

Mr. WHITTEN. We will be glad to hear from you. May I repeat for the record, we have insisted that a representative of the Secretary's office be here. A number of years ago civil service people were having to speak on policy matters which is unfair to them, and to the Committee, too. So at that time we decided that we

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