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MAY 13, 14, 20, 21; JUNE 3, 10, 18, 21, 1963

Printed for the use of the Committee on Post Office and Civil Service

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1963

98-338

Kian
. 1656
1963
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COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE

TOM MURRAY, Tennessee, Chairman
JAMES H. MORRISON, Louisiana

ROBERT J. CORBETT, Pennsylvania
THADDEUS J. DULSKI, New York

H. R. GROSS, Iowa
DAVID N. HENDERSON, North Carolina JOEL T. BROYHILL, Virginia
ARNOLD OLSEN, Montana

AUGUST E. JOHANSEN, Michigan
MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona

GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska
DOMINICK V. DANIELS, New Jersey GEORGE M. WALLHAUSER, New Jersey
LINDLEY BECKWORTH, Texas

ROBERT R. BARRY, New York
HARLEY O. STAGGERS, West Virginia KATHARINE ST. GEORGE, New York
ROBERT N. C. NIX, Pennsylvania

EDWARD J. DERWINSKI, Illinois
DON EDWARDS, California

ROBERT F. ELLSWORTH, Kansas
JOE R. POOL, Texas

HOMER E. ABELE, Ohio
ALBERT W. WATSON, South Carolina
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MANPOWER UTILIZATION

DAVID N. HENDERSON, North Carolina, Chairman
LINDLEY BECKWORTH, Texas

H. R. GROSS, Iowa
MORRIS K, UDALL, Arizona

AUGUST E. JOHANSEN, Michigan
DON EDWARDS, California

EDWARD J. DERWINSKI, Illinois
JOE R. POOL, Texas

ROBERT F. ELLSWORTH, Kansas
ALBERT W. WATSON, South Carolina KATHARINE ST. GEORGE, New York

Ex Oficio Members
TOM MURRAY, Tennessee

ROBERT J. CORBETT, Pennsylvania
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CONTENTS

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Statement of

Ailes, Hon. Stephen, Under Secretary of the Army, accompanied by
Alfred B. Fitt, Deputy Under Secretary of the Army for

Manpower;
C. F. Mullaly, Director of Civilian Personnel; and Col. Charles

Hazeltine, Deputy Director of Army Research Office-

Bray, Hon. William G., a Representative in Congress from the State of

Indiana.

Fay, Hon. Paul B., Jr., Under Secretary of the Navy, accompanied

by Vice Adm. G. F. Beardsley, U.S. Navy, Chief of Naval Material;

and Rear Adm. Martin J. Lawrence, U.S. Navy, Chief of Industrial

Relations...

Fridge, Hon. Benjamin W., Special Assistant for Manpower, Personnel

and Reserve Forces, Department of the Air Force, accompanied by

Maj. Gen. B. O. Davis, Jr., Director of Manpower and Organization;

John A. Watts, Director of Civilian Personnel; and James Goode,

Deputy for Manpower, Personnel, and Organization.---

Griner, John F., national president, American Federation of Govern-

ment Employees
Macy, Hon. John W., Jr., Chairman, Civil Service Commission,

accompanied by Warren Irons, Executive Director, and Seymour

Berlin, Director, Bureau of Inspections...

Owen, Vaux, president, National Federation of Federal Employees.-

Paul, Hon. Norman S., Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower;

Hon. Thomas D. Morris, Assistant Secretary of Defense for In-

stallations and Logistics,

and Samuel Clements, executive assistant

to Director of Defense Research and Engineering --

Shriver, Hon. Sargent, Director, Peace Corps, accompanied by

Howard Greenberg, Associate Director for Management; William

Kelly, Director of Contracts; William Josephson, Deputy General

Counsel; Robert Paty, Assistant Director of Personnel; and Wilson

McCarthy, Special Assistant for Congressional Affairs--

Staats, Elmer B., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget-
Appendix
(a) Materials relating to use of military personnel in civilian jobs at

Warner Robins Air Force Base, Ga.

(b) Letter by Assistant Secretary of Defense for Logistics, Hon.

Thomas D. Morris, to Hon. David N. Henderson, dated June

10, 1963, relating to Department of Army monitoring salaries

of contractors.

(c) Letter from national president of the National Federation of

Federal Employees, Mr. Vaux Owen, to Hon. David N. Hender-
son dated July 1, 1963, regarding the effects of reduced ceilings
in the Department of Defense.

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