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with Mr. Stern's position-which seemed almost like a game with us on this one, frankly.

I mean, he could have said enough to get a fee waiver in his first letter. He did not choose to do that. He would rather have me go through an experience up here and make speeches to the Press Club and other things like that. If that is the way he prefers it, that is certainly his right.

Senator LEAHY. Has he been making speeches to the Press Club? Mr. ROSE. He made one and referred to me personally in it, yes. Senator LEAHY. I take it the way you say that it was not a reference that your parents normally would have used?

Mr. ROSE. No, no. [Laughter.]

I do not think my mother would have thought of that.

Senator HATCH. Mr. Rose, this is a very tough issue. I have endured some of that myself in the last couple of years, I will tell you.

Senator LEAHY. No, Orrin. Tell me it is not so; tell me it is not so. [Laughter.]

is.

Senator HATCH. No hard feelings, Mr. Rose; it is just the way it

Mr. ROSE. That is the way it is, exactly. I do not have any hard feelings about it either.

Senator LEAHY. The chairman has let me go well beyond my time. If I could just read one paragraph, and I realize administrations change, but in a cover memo to his guidelines on fee waivers, Attorney General Civiletti said:

Congress clearly intended that this discretion be exercised generously in all cases where either the content of the records being released or the identify of the requester suggests that the public interest would be served by doing so.

Examples of requests that should ordinarily receive consideration for partial fee waivers, at minimum, would be representatives of the news media or public interest organizations and historical researchers.

Senator HATCH. Well, thank you, Mr. Rose. We appreciate your appearance this morning and we appreciate the hard work that you have put in on this issue.

Mr. Rose. I appreciate the chance to be here, Mr. Chairman.

Senator HATCH. It is a tough issue and it is one that has to be resolved, and no matter how it is resolved, there will be critics of whatever is done. So, I appreciate your being here.

[The prepared statement of Mr. Rose and additional material submitted follow:]

PREPARED STATEMENT OF JONATHAN C. ROSE

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee:

I am pleased to appear before you today to testify in support of S. 774, a bill to amend the Freedom of Information

Act.

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I appeared before this subcommittee twice in 1981 to discuss the Administration's proposed amendments to the FOIA. I told you then and I emphasize today Administration is firmly committed to the faithful implementation of the Freedom of Information Act by all federal agencies. We strongly support the basic purpose and philosophy of the Act: to inform the public as fully as possible of the conduct of its government in order to protect the integrity and effectiveness of the government itself. We are fully committed to carrying out the philosophy and spirit of the Act.

There is a long history of proposals to amend the FOIA. In the years following the substantial broadening of the Act in 1974, the Department of Justice and the government as a whole began to experience serious problems with some of the requirements and language of the FOIA. In 1979, following testimony before Congress, the Department of Justice prepared a series of proposed amendments to the FOIA, recommending very substantial changes in the Act. When this Administration assumed office, the Department of Justice began an independent review of the problems that the FOIA has raised. We concluded that the FOIA has indeed created serious problems for the federal

government; however, we also found that

problems were

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as serious as these

the problems also tended to be narrow ones that

could be remedied without a wholesale revision of the FOIA. Accordingly, in October 1981, I appeared before this Subcommittee to present the Administration's proposed amendments to the FOIA, which were introduced in the 97th Congress as S. 1751.

Many of the Administration's proposals were soon incorporated into existing FOIA reform legislation S. 1730

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that Senator Hatch had introduced only one month before. Commendably, Senator Hatch carefully engrafted our proposals onto the provisions of S. 1730, producing a set of proposed amendments to the FOIA that were drawn as narrowly as possible. Senator Hatch was ably assisted in this effort by Senator DeConcini who shared his concern that our efforts to correct the deficiencies of the FOIA should not inadvertently infringe upon the overriding purposes of the Act.

The final version of S. 1730 was among the most

carefully drafted examples of remedial legislation I have seen. We at the Department of Justice found that the bill redressed most, although not all, of the serious problems we had encountered with the FOIA. Similarly, the various interest groups that had opposed any amendments to the Act conceded that the bill was a responsible and even-handed approach to reform of the FOIA. The best evidence of the success of Senators Hatch and DeConcini came in May 1982, when the full Judiciary Committee approved S. 1730 by a unanimous 17-0 vote.

The present bill, S. 774, is identical to the

Hatch bill of the last Congress. We continue to strongly support this bill and we believe that it represents a successful compromise between the government's need to maintain the confidentiality of important law enforcement information and the public's right to know about the operations of their government. S. 774 also contains many needed procedural reforms in the FOIA, including measures that would permit businesses that submit confidential information to the government to receive notice of its impending disclosure, allow the government to recoup a greater portion of the costs of processing many FOIA requests, and create more realistic time limits for the government to respond to FOIA requests. Although all of these proposed amendments are familiar to the Subcommittee, I would like to take

a few minutes to summarize the need for each.

Law enforcement. The FOIA has become a major problem

to the government's law enforcement agencies. The FBI has found

that 16% of the FOIA requests it receives are from known or suspected criminals. In the case of the Drug Enforcement Administration, this number is even higher: fully 60% of the FOIA requests the DEA receives are from imprisoned or known drug traffickers. The frequency with which criminals use the FOIA is an indirect indicator of its usefulness to them. However, there also is direct evidence of the harmful effects the FOIA has had upon law enforcement. In the course of the hearings held last Congress on S. 1730, the Department provided to the Committee a list of over 200 documented cases where the FOIA had a harmful impact on law enforcement activities. Moreover, in an executive

session of this Subcommittee, Director Webster of the FBI provided many additional examples of the use of the FOIA by criminals, terrorist groups, and hostile foreign intelligence agencies. In February 1982, the DEA released a study it had conducted that found that 14% of the DEA's investigations were aborted, narrowed, compromised, or significantly complicated by the FOIA. With your permission, Mr. Chairman, I will submit for the record today copies of both the list of cases where the FOIA has harmed law enforcement and the DEA study.

Organized

The problems the FOIA creates for law enforcement agencies become especially acute when organized crime uses the Act to discover what the government knows about it. criminal groups engage in a wide range of illegal activities and often have a long institutional memory. As a consequence, otherwise innocuous information that the government discloses under the FOIA to a member of an organized crime family or a drug trafficking conspiracy often can be pieced together with information already known to the requester to form a "mosaic" that reveals the identities of the government's confidential informants or the scope of the government's investigation. As explained more fully in the detailed analysis of S. 774 that accompanies this testimony, the Department of Justice that the bill will go a long way towards closing this very critical gap in

the government's ability to maintain the confidentiality of its law enforcement files.

Secret Service files. In past testimony before

Congress, the Secret Service has revealed that many local police departments no longer share information with them because they believe that the Service will not be able to protect the information from mandatory disclosure under the FOIA. By 1977, this problem had grown to such an extent that the Secret Service testified that it recommended against President Carter visiting two cities because of fears that the Service could not protect the President's personal safety. Moreover, in 1981 the Secret Service testified that its informant information had dropped by 75% since the passage of the 1974 amendments to the FOIA. We endorse S. 774's provisions granting broader protection to the files the Secret Service compiles in connection with its protective functions.

Commercial information. Every year, thousands of businesses submit to the government many of their most important and confidential trade secrets and business records. However, there is no requirement in the FOIA that the government must notify these companies when it intends to release this information to the public. The seriousness of this shortcoming is shown by the recent, unhappy experience of the Monsanto Corporation. As required by law, Monsanto provided to the EPA

the formula it had developed for one of its most successful herbicides, Roundup.

Though an error of judgment, employees of

the EPA disclosed the formula to another company under the FOIA, without even notifying Monsanto. It appears that the FOIA did not actually require the EPA to turn over Monsanto's secret formula to the requester. However, the fact that Monsanto never received notice of the impending disclosure prevented it from opposing the release either before the EPA or in court. Although the Monsanto matter arose after the Judiciary Committee reported out S. 1730 last May, it shows the wisdom of the bill's provisions requiring

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