Senator INOUYE. How do you account for the difference between 540 and 460, refinements?

Admiral CORRADI. It is the same sort of a thing. In this case, Mr. Chairman, in developing the final plans, the facility was resited to a more economical location where the utilities were handier. I believe this was also the case of the last one, but I didn't have the answer available when you asked the question. It was a resiting actually in both cases. The laundry item is reduced also by the deletion of collateral equipment.

Admiral HULL. Gymnasium and swimming pool $572,000.

The 14th item is for construction of a gymnasium and swimming pool at the estimated cost of $572,000. This also dropped out last year at cost of $623,000.

There is no athletic-recreation building at Naval Station, Roosevelt Roads. Minimum indoor facilities are required to assure that the approximately 4,000 military personnel utilizing the station facilities receive adequate physical fitness training. The provision of indoor facilities is particularly important at the Naval Station, Roosevelt Roads, where organized outdoor sports activities are limited at times by the heavy rainfall which occurs almost daily throughout the year. There are no adequate off-station recreation facilities for use by station personnel. This item will provide a gymnasium with handball, basketball, and volleyball courts and other physical recreational facilities and an outdoor swimming pool.

Senator INOUYE. Admiral, can you furnish for the committee's information the Navy's policy or DOD's minimum requirements as to recreational facilities for personnel?

Admiral HULL. Yes, sir; we will be glad to do that. (The information referred to follows:)

ALLOWANCES FOR MORALE, WELFARE, AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES

Morale, welfare, and recreational facilities, including chapels, are provided by the Navy on the basis of authorized military strengths at naval installations. Authorized strengths include fleet-based personnel and students. Typical allowances for base loadings from 5,001 to 7,000 are:

Senator INOUYE. I am all for recreational facilities. At certain bases such as this, I am wondering why you have been so long to provide these facilities.

Admiral HULL. We do have the need. The scope is based on population, and I think the cause of the delay is the same as that which has delayed our improvements in barracks, BOQ's, and messes, simply lack of money in the past, and lack of emphasis from us because of our efforts to gain the benefits of technological improvements as they became available.

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Senator INOUYE. And while you are at it, can you also furnish us information as to the policy or standards set on providing chapels and religious buildings?

Admiral HULL. Yes, sir. (The information appears on p. 469.) Senator INOUYE. Please proceed.

Admiral HULL. The next two line items are repetitive, commissioned officers' mess open, chief petty officers' mess, open.

Senator INOUYE. I notice on the open mess the cost has increased since 1965.

Admiral CORRADI. This is one of those unfavorable refinements, Mr. Chairman. The final plans have been completed and have been ready for some months. Construction costs are going up, and the cost was updated for this fiscal 1966 construction.

Admiral HULL. "Recreational facilities," $96,000.

The 17th line item is for construction of "Recreational facilities" at the estimated cost of $96,000.

Senator INOUYE. Is this activity different from the other recreational facility?

Admiral HULL. Yes, sir. This item, together with the previously proposed gymnasium and swimming pool, will provide minimum athletic and recreational facilities for liberty parties from fleet ships and station personnel. It includes a baseball field and outdoor courts for volleyball, tennis, badminton, handball, and basketball. This is the outdoor type as compared to the indoor type we discussed previously.

Senator INOUYE. If you don't have these facilities now, where do the men get the necessary relaxation and recreation?

Admiral HULL. At the moment we do have some facilities. We simply don't have enough for the large group there. We have one swimming pool for officers and families, and another for enlisted men and their families. Both are small.

We have three on-station beaches, two softball fields, one Little League field, five tennis courts, two basketball courts outdoors, one 9-hole golf course, one stable with private paths, two hobby shops, 12-lane bowling alley, and a library.

Senator INOUYE. Now your facilities such as the gym, are they multipurpose buildings? For example, can you hold movies there? Admiral CORRADI. It could be done. This gymnasium is 102 feet long. Yes, you could show movies there. We generally try to make it multipurpose to the extent that you could have basketball games with retractable bleechers or you could use it for an exercise room. You could put equipment in it of a portable nature, exercise equip

ment.

Senator INOUYE. I would also like to ask a question on your messhalls. A few years ago the State of Hawaii solved an expensive problem in providing gymnasiums, auditoriums, and cafeterias, just combining the whole thing together. For example, we have what is known as a cafetorium now where the cafeteria could be rearranged appropriately for auditorium purposes, with a stage and everything else. Are these things being considered in your construction?

Admiral CORRADI. Yes, sir. This is a good arrangement, and we do that at many naval stations. We use the cafeteria seating space for an auditorium when we want to gather people together for talks.

Your previous question was a little bit more difficult for me to answer because I feel that having invested in a good hardwood floor for a basketball court, it is a shame to drag chairs over it and use it for a movie theater. If you can show the movie somewhere else, I prefer to have the movie shown in some place other than a gymnasium. The maple floor that you generally need for a good basketball surface gets marked and scratched with temporary chairs being dragged over it. You also cut down the use of the gym when it used for movies.

Senator INOUYE. Then how are these civilian facilities carried on? For example, you have these huge civic centers where you hold rallies and basketball games, boxing matches and chairs are dragged all over the place, and they seem to do all right.

Admiral CORRADI. On a hardwood basketball court they generally protect it. They put canvas down, and it just means higher mainte

nance cost.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you very much, Admiral. Please proceed. Admiral HULL. "Relocation of road," $515,000.

The final item is for "Relocation of road" at the estimated cost of $515,000. Vehicular traffic from the administrative and industrial area to the air operations area, as well as the majority of traffic between the station and San Juan, must cross the station's main aircraft runway on a major artery of the road system. This situation is extremely dangerous to both vehicular and air traffic and creates a constant delay of vehicular traffic. A traffic study has revealed that the road is blocked an average of 22 times a day for an average of 17 minutes each time. An alternate routing of vehicular traffic around the airfield now exists but requires extra travel of approximately 8 miles, 3 miles of which are narrow road not designed for heavy or rapid traffic movement. This line item will provide a 9,200-foot long road around the end of the runway, to eliminate the hazardous situation which endangers personnel, aircraft, and vehicles. This is a dropout from last year at $325,000, now refined to $515,000.

Senator INOUYE. How do you explain this great refinement?

Admiral CORRADI. I don't have a complete explanation other than this price which was used last year was developed in 1963. It was submitted 3 years in a row, and we have recently reestimated the cost of the work on the basis of current prices, and it comes to $515,000.

Senator INOUYE. Gentlemen, if this will not inconvenience you, the Chair would like to recess at this point and reconvene and continue the hearings at 2 p.m. tomorrow afternoon.

Admiral HULL. Mr. Chairman, we are most agreeable to that. However, the next group will be very short if you want to finish this group. However, we defer to your wishes, of course.

Senator INOUYE. I know we have another book, so I hope we can finish this and the other book tomorrow.

(Whereupon, at 5:05 p.m., the committee recessed, to reconvene at 2 p.m., Wednesday, May 5, 1965.)

MILITARY CONSTRUCTION AUTHORIZATION, FISCAL

YEAR 1966

WEDNESDAY, MAY 5, 1965

U.S. SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, AND

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MILITARY CONSTRUCTION OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, Washington, D.C. The Committee on Armed Services and the Subcommittee on Military Construction of the Committee on Appropriations met jointly, pursuant to recess, at 2:25 p.m., in room 212, Old Senate Office Building.

Present: Senators Inouye (presiding), Cannon, and Jackson.

Of the staff of the Committee on Armed Services: Gordon A. Nease, professional staff member and Charles B. Kirbow, chief clerk.

Of the staff of the Committee on Appropriations: Vorley M. Rexroad and Joseph Borda, professional staff members.

Senator INOUYE. Gentlemen, this afternoon we will resume our hearings on the Department of the Navy military construction program authorization. I believe we are at page 122 of book No. 2. However, before proceeding, the chairman has asked me to convey to all of you his regrets at not being able to be here this afternoon. He wanted all of you to know that he has a great interest in the Navy, but he had other responsibilities to carry out, so he has asked me to continue the hearings.

Admiral, will you proceed?

STATEMENTS OF REAR ADM. HARRY HULL, U.S. NAVY, DIRECTOR, SHORE ACTIVITIES DEVELOPMENT AND CONTROL DIVISION, OFFICE OF CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS; AND REAR ADM. PETER CORRADI, CEC, U.S. NAVY, CHIEF, BUREAU OF YARDS AND DOCKS Resumed

Admiral HULL. Mr. Chairman, may I also at this moment make a comment. We had just heard that your committee has expressed the desire to place the responsibility on the principal witnesses for the services to call the committee's attention to any items contained in the 1966 military construction authorization bill for any base or installation whose tenure is in any way in doubt.

Senator INOUYE. That is correct, sir.

Admiral HULL. The Navy's policy is to review continuously the Shore Establishment, to assure that facilities support adequately the requirements of our operating forces. Currently a special effort is