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Admiral HULL. Yes, sir. This will leave us with a deficit of 67, so these people have to live in the community.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, sir.

Admiral HULL. "Electrical distribution system," $88,000.

The last line item is for an electrical distribution system as the estimated cost of $88,000. This item is required in support of the increased electrical loads which will be generated by the previous items for barracks, messhall, and BOQ. The projected future electrical loads will exceed the existing station capacity by 25 percent.

In addition to installation of new lines, transformers and switch gear, this item will provide for a rearrangement of the existing electrical distribution system to take care of critical load centers. Senator INOUYE. Please proceed, sir.

NAVAL AIR STATION, GLYNCO, GA.

Admiral HULL. Two line items, both repetitive. The first, airfield lighting; the second is barracks.

Senator INOUYE. Admiral, on airfield lighting, are the standards for the Navy very similar to those of the Air Force or are they identical?

Admiral HULL. They are identical, sir.

Senator INOUYE. So then I would assume that the costs are about the same.

Admiral CORRADI. Not necessarily, because there are different conditions with respect to furnishing the power for the lighting, and to bring the utilities out to the runway, so there will be variations. The cost of the fixtures and the connection of the fixtures is the same for all locations.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, Admiral Corradi.

NAVAL AUXILIARY AIR STATION, KINGSVILLE, TEX.
Admiral HULL. "Naval auxiliary air station, Kingsville, Tex.,"
$557,000, three line items. The first is lighting and repetitive.
The second, aviation cadet quarters, $158,000.

The second line item is for construction of a 40-man aviation cadet quarters at the estimated cost of $158,000. There are 118 students undergoing advanced flight training at this station. Of these students, 60 are aviation cadets who are living in temporary wooden structures built in 1942 which are now in poor condition. The inadequacies of the quarters, combined with the rigorous schedule, the hot, humid climate and blowing dust common to the area, are detriments to good study habits, rest, and high morale of the students.

Senator INOUYE. Admiral, I notice at Glynco the cost for airfield lighting is $295,000, and at Kingsville Field it is $326,000, and the scope seems to be the same. Can you give any explanation as to the difference in cost?

Admiral CORRADI. The only explanation that I can find is the cost of bringing the power to the centerline lighting, and variations in the cost of the approach lighting due to difference in terrain. Otherwise, the balance of the installation is the same.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, sir.

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What do you mean by difference in terrain? I thought all airfields were flat.

Admiral CORRADI. The approach lighting, for example, is installed at a predetermined angle, and if the ground slopes down, why we build trestles up to set the lights to the correct angle.

Senator INOUYE. I understand.

Admiral CORRADI. In those instances where the approach zone is over water, we have to build a pile structure to hold the lights out in the water.

Senator INOUYE. And this is what is involved here?

Admiral CORRADI. Not at these two installations. There is no water, but there are differences in terrain which results in the supporting structure differential.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, sir.

Admiral HULL. Water well, $73,000.

The final item is for provision of a water well at the estimated cost of $73,000. The new well will supplement the existing capacity of 500 gallons per minute. The station's average daily demand is 300 gallons per minute, but a capacity of at least 600 gallons per minute is needed to provide for maximum demand. The additional well will produce 500 gallons per minute, the smallest feasible design, to insure an adequate supply of water for the domestic, industrial, and fire protection needs of the station.

During the hot summer months, peak demands reduce the reserve stored water to a point where a failure of any of the three operational wells would deplete the reserve in less than a day, leaving the station defenseless in event of a fire.

Senator INOUYE. Where do you get your water from?

Admiral CORRADI. We get water from wells. This proposes to expand the capacity of the wells and to tap an underwater stratum, which is known as the Goliad aquifer, about 600 feet below the surface, thereby providing a more reliable supply.

Senator INOUYE. And no community water systems are available in that vicinity?

Admiral CORRADI. No, sir; this station obtains its own water from wells at the present time.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, sir.

NAVAL AIR STATION, MEMPHIS, TENN.

Admiral HULL. The next project, Naval Air Station, Memphis, Tenn., $5,792,000. There are three line items.

Avionics training building, $1,796,000: The first line item is for construction of an avionics training building at the estimated cost of $1,796,000. The building will be of precast concrete construction and will provide 93,782 square feet for classrooms, laboratories, and administrative space.

There are 2,232 students and instructors in the avionics school. The existing six buildings used by this school are of temporary, wood frame, World War II construction and were designed for training in the mechanical skills necessary at that time. They do not have adequate heating, ventilation, air conditioning, electrical capacity or flexibility, and cannot be converted economically to meet today's requirements.

This line item will provide a permanent building with the built-in flexibility to meet changes in teaching procedures, class size, and equipment. The six buildings replaced by this construction will be demolished.

Senator INOUYE. I have a statement from Mr. Nease which I feel is rather appropriate. I would like to read it for the record, and I think it should help you. Mr. Nease says:

I visited many areas, but the troop housing and other facilities here are the worst I have seen. One-third of the Navy is devoted to aviation. This is the one and only naval air technical training school. The men are trained here to maintain the airplanes assigned to the fleet. The buildings are predominantly World War II type frame structures. There is no air conditioning in any barracks or mess hall. This is a very highly humid area. Barracks built to house 114 men accommodate at least 175. The classrooms and laboratories are makeshift, allowing about 4 square feet per man.

Four square feet per man?

There is absolutely no adequate study space in barracks. In some instances picnic tables have been placed in old shower rooms to provide study space. More over there is a sad lack of decent collateral equipment such as decent bunks, mattresses, and lockers. There are positively no chairs or tables. Frankly, the conditions here are disgraceful. Classes here run from 2 to 52 weeks. How anyone would reenlist after living here is inconceivable. Therefore these facilities requested are fully justified and badly needed.

My only comment is, why did you wait this long?

Admiral HULL. That is a difficult question to answer, Mr. Chairman. The answer is that we simply have not had the funds in the past to take care of these facilities. We are most grateful to Mr. Nease for this personal account.

I am afraid that there are many other places we could send him to where he would find conditions just as bad, and I can only say that I am happy that we do have a strong program for correcting all these inadequacies.

I think that the best answer we can give you is that in the past our growing technology has consumed practically all our military construction funds. We have had very little left over to take care of the existing shore establishments. We are now making a strenuous effort to take care of personnel support facilities particularly, but also the last of the shore establishments as well. We hope to devote at least 25 percent of our funds for the next 5 years to barracks, BOQ, messes, and the other forms of personnel support facilities.

Senator INOUYE. I am certain the committee will support you, Admiral. There is a final statement from Mr. Nease:

The Navy does a fine job at Memphis in spite of poor facilities.

Admiral HULL. Thank you, Mr. Nease.

The next two items are repetitive ones, and will begin to correct the conditions that Mr. Nease pointed out, $2.5 million for barracks and $500,000 for mess hall.

Senator INOUYE. We are convinced, Admiral. Shall we go to the next, sir?

NAVAL AIR STATION, PENSACOLA, FLA.

Admiral HULL. The next project, Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Fla. We have five line items there. The first is an aircraft maintenance hangar, repetitive. The second is helicopter blade test facility.

The second item is for construction of a helicopter blade test facility at the estimated cost of $422,000. This item was authorized and funded in fiscal year 1964 for construction at NAS, Jacksonville. The construction was deferred, however, pending the results of a study to determine the best locations to meet the overall requirement for overhaul and repair of all Navy aircraft. This study has progressed to a point which confirms the desirability of relocating the helicopter overhaul and blade repair and testing to NAS, Pensacola. This particular test facility is needed for testing, balancing, and matching helicopter blades for safe performance of the aircraft. The available funds granted in fiscal year 1964 will be reprogramed for this facility at the new site.

Senator INOUYE. However, I note that you have a request here for a helicopter blade facility, blade test facility, but no funding is indicated. How do you explain this?

Admiral HULL. This item was authorized and funded last year, sir, but at another location, so that if you approve the authorization for Pensacola this year, we will then be able to reprogram the funds of 1964 to the facility at Pensacola.

Senator INOUYE. How do you explain the change in location?

Admiral HULL. This is part of the rather comprehensive study which has been made in the Bureau of Naval Weapons over the past year to determine where it is best to overhaul and repair the different types of aircraft that we have in our inventory, and the results of this, we think, will give us a much more efficient overhaul and repair capability throughout the Navy.

One of the items that was determined in this study is that it will probably be best to do the helicopter work at the Naval Air Station, Pensacola. It has been changed from Jacksonville to Pensacola.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you very much, Admiral.

Admiral HULL. The third line item is for a shop electrical system at the estimated cost of $125,000. An improvement in the electrical utilities is required to building No. 604 at Chevalier Field which houses several shops used in overhaul and repair of naval aircraft. This building is 27 years old. Its electrical system was adequate for the requirements of the time it was built, but now it cannot meet the power demands of new aircraft and test equipment. Temporary power additions have been rigged from time to time over the years, but no further expansion of this type is possible. This item will increase the substation capacity and will provide more primary feeder capacity into the building.

Air condition supply office, $32,000: The fourth line item is for air conditioning the supply office at the estimated cost of $32,000. This office is located in space which has been converted from warehouse to administrative use. The partitioning necessary in this conversion makes adequate cross ventilation impossible. The heat and humidity during high temperature peaks in the summer months produce adverse environmental conditions in the confined supply office. During these periods the complete shutdown of the office is necessary.

Senator INOUYE. Admiral, I realize this is a small item, but is this air conditioning centralized or are these individual units that you have?

Admiral HULL. Centralized, Mr. Chairman.

Senator INOUYE. Thank you, sir.

Admiral HULL. "Electrical distribution system," $79,000: The final item is for construction of an electrical distribution system at the estimated cost of $79,000. This system consists of approximately 3 miles of powerlines from the Naval Air Station, Pensacola, to the Naval Communications Training Center at the former Corry Field. New communication equipment is more complex and higher powered than the old equipment and has to be air conditioned. This generates a requirement for more power at the training center which must train technicians in the maintenance and operation of this new equipment. The overloads on the present power system are causing excessive voltage drops, which shorten the life of the new and expensive equipment, make its operation unreliable, and reduce the effectiveness of student training.

Senator INOUYE. Shall we proceed to Saufley?

NAVAL AUXILIARY AIR STATION, SAUFLEY FIELD,

FLA.

Admiral HULL. "Naval Auxiliary Air Station, Saufley Field, Fla.,” $664,000.

Senator INOUYE. Was this the item that was denied for fiscal 1965 ?

Admiral HULL. Yes, it was. This is for the construction of a flight training and briefing facility at the estimated cost of $664,000.

Existing flight training and briefing facilities at Saufley Field occupy the hangar deck floorspace in two hangars and space in a former messhall. This makeshift arrangement was acceptable for the requirements of the 1940's when this field was commissioned. With increased emphasis on ground training and preflight and postflight briefings for pilots made necessary by the increasingly complex modern aircraft, facilities specifically designed for training and briefing purposes are necessary. The hangar deck space now used is divided into compartments either by flight clothing lockers or by temporary partitions. The noises caused by the closing of locker doors, the constant coming and going of students, and aircraft operating nearby, combined with oppressive heat and humidity in the summer and cold in the winter, make it very difficult to brief student pilots properly before training flights and debrief them after flights.

The proposed building will provide spaces properly designed for administering and training approximately 554 students. Its will provide readyrooms and spaces for lectures, briefing and debriefing of students prior to and after flights. This line item will provide an urgently needed facility and as an added benefit will permit 154,000 square feet of hangar floorspace to be returned to use for the aircraft maintenance purposes for which it was designed.

Senator INOUYE. Why was there no training and briefing facility provided for when the station was built?

Admiral HULL. Can you answer that Captain MacDonald? Captain MACDONALD. The aircraft and the operations with the aircraft were more simpler in those days than nowadays, sir. The complexity of the modern aircraft system and the training and briefing required of personnel is just far more complex. We require adequate

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